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oo_Wonderful_oo

The land of freedom23126 Posts

January 18 2014 22:50 GMT

#2521

On January 19 2014 07:49 Volband wrote:

Patoy is even more overrated than mancloud. Sure, better than Kiwi, but the amount of hype he got back then was unreal. People tend to forget how many Chausters did he pull off.

Lol dude, you're like guys who hate Sniper and Roro just for their flashy seasons :D

Swords

6038 Posts

January 18 2014 22:51 GMT

#2522

On January 19 2014 07:44 Volband wrote:

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On January 19 2014 07:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
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Cruzer is worse than Kiwi, lol.
Kiwi was fun to watch because he traded permanently.
Cruzer is like - fuck you, i'm gonna pick Shyvana, proxy farm and do nothing.
It's like worse version of Youngbuck.

Hey, this guy just said Kiwikid was fun to watch. I had as much fun watching him as getting my tooth pulled without any painkillers. And I will refuse to comment on his level of play at top lane, because it was non-existent. Worst kda while Rengar and Zac were fotm for top laners? Yeah, okay.

Rengar? Fotm? For toplane?
When?

You are right, it was mainly Europe, divided with the jungle role. Still, he played him, and sadly, I witnessed that. Seriously, how can anyone call him a good top laner? I respect a lot of athletes even if I hate them with all my guts, but he is just plain and simply bad. I'm not even sure how could this be a topic for arguement.

Europe? Rengar? Fotm?
When?
It was picked by hyrqbot in jungle once in Spring, also once by Darien just to go full ham and feed.
Somehow my memory don't remember other stuff, even Mimer wasn't playing it.

What, europe sucked on him in the summer split.

Also, you said Kiwikid is fun to watch, which is even worse, than calling him good, or decent, or not terrible. Darien is fun to watch. Xpeke is fun to watch. WildTutle is fun to watch. Kiwikid failing with every fotm (like Singed or Zac) is not fun to watch, especially when he laughs all the time, like he has some other irl issues.

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/Europe/Season_3/Picks_and_Bans/Summer_Season
Where is Rengar? 1 pick as i said.

Kiwi was carrying Dignitas HUGE in Spring Split. Dignitas were falling, he was falling as well but i barely can remind games where he did lose 1v1 or feed without enemies's ganking him permanently.

Can't say I remember much about Dig fom the spring split, but saying he was only falling because the team was falling is just ridiculous. He managed to die the most out of everyone in every LCS while playing champs like Singed, Zac, and occasionally - to put this right - Aatrox. How the hell could you even lose games with zac back then? Full hp 0-24, 0 mana, of course he did not went 0-10 in lane, he actually had to do stuff like teamfight, or landing abilities, and that's when his inability to play decent showed. In summer he never carried anyone, and he was always inferior compared to the enemy toplaners. (Who knows, maybe he was better than Kris and Vileroze, but that's not something to brag about)

He's mediocore, and if you think he's fun to watch, then compare him to Sping split Voyboy.

Edit: Kiwi walks back to stun 2 people instead of waiting them to get in range so he doesn't lose momentum. Yeah, that is him. Whatever, Dig deserves him, hope he stays there forever.

Dude, 70% of lanes in Summer were played as 2v1. How can you blame toplaner for feeding if his team is losing? He can't carry on fucking Zac, he was op but op for single lane, not for carrying the game.
And about Voyboy. Saintvicious was carrying Curse hard in Spring and they were 19-9.
Dignitas were 13-15 and then suddenly Voyboy failed against Kiwikid in playoffs to throw his team out of LCS. Ok.

I was talking about the fun to watch now, but if you really said Kiwikid is/was betetr than Voy, then I really can't reply to that. People can argue that I should not hate him THAT much, but no one defends him, because even the most hardcore Dig fans know he's shit.

I wish you one thing, and one thing only. May Kiwikid be always part of one of your favourite teams. Always. Even when Korean teams are on his doorstep to convicne him "pls, play terible in our team!", he shall say "no, I'm missing skillshots and showing absolutely 0 game understanding HERE. Sorry."

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Nah, I take it back. No one deserves that. No one.

I don't really like Kiwi. I'm a Dig fan, and I don't think he should be on the team, but your irrational hatred of him down to the fact "he smiles" is just bizarre. He was a great singed/elise player last spring split, essentially carrying Dig (and his Singed TP plays were fun to watch. Those champs got nerfed, and he failed to adjust. Dig has made a mistake to keep him around, but it's not like he's the worst player in history or something. There have been lots of League players that fall apart when their champion pools get nerfed.

Chicane

United States7875 Posts

January 18 2014 22:51 GMT

#2523

On January 19 2014 07:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:

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Thanks, dude.
Elementz is pretty much done imo. He was amazing with Curse in Spring and if they hadn't dumpstered him i would bet on them in playoffs.
But he enjoyed being a coach i guess and i wish that we can get him as analyst for Riot with his game knowledge as well as Chauster.

Yeah no problem. Maybe he will make another small comeback some time for the next season of coke zero since he seems to want to stay in the LoL scene.

I actually saw him in some Diamond 1 game on a stream, so it seems like he is actually trying to climb the ladder and not being awful anymore. I remember before watching his stream as he struggled in Plat 2 (when he was on Curse). It was painful to watch.

So my point is that maybe he actually is taking more steps to improve himself as a player now that he NEEDS to... though I can't ever see him being a top tier support on a good team again.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

January 18 2014 22:51 GMT

#2524

On January 19 2014 07:49 Volband wrote:

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Patoy is even more overrated than mancloud. Sure, better than Kiwi, but the amount of hype he got back then was unreal. People tend to forget how many Chausters did he pull off.

Patoy entered a bizarre zone, where so many people called him underrated that he ended up being overrated. He's a great support but he's not some kinda world beater (Same for xpecial)

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

January 18 2014 22:52 GMT

#2525

wait is the vVv team who has LmQ in the first round the cheesedbulooga/porpise team or is it the other one?

skykh

3006 Posts

January 18 2014 22:52 GMT

#2526

C9 will dominate na lcs again, looking at the results.

Doctorbeat

Netherlands13241 Posts

January 18 2014 22:52 GMT

#2527

On January 19 2014 07:51 Fusilero wrote:

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Patoy entered a bizarre zone, where so many people called him underrated that he ended up being overrated. He's a great support but he's not some kinda world beater (Same for xpecial)

I'm kinda hype for Krepo vs Aphro now

Both have been making big plays.

nojitosunrise

United States6188 Posts

January 18 2014 22:53 GMT

#2528

On January 19 2014 07:52 skykh wrote:
C9 will dominate na lcs again, looking at the results.

it's been one week. Let's not get too carried away.

Yezzus

United States2318 Posts

January 18 2014 22:53 GMT

#2529

On January 19 2014 07:52 skykh wrote:
C9 will dominate na lcs again, looking at the results.

We all know this

Volband

Hungary6034 Posts

January 18 2014 22:53 GMT

#2530

On January 19 2014 07:51 Fusilero wrote:

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Patoy entered a bizarre zone, where so many people called him underrated that he ended up being overrated. He's a great support but he's not some kinda world beater (Same for xpecial)

Yep, and BloodWater is much much better and consistent. Xpecial stepped up (or back up?) as well imo.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

January 18 2014 22:53 GMT

#2531

On January 19 2014 07:52 Slusher wrote:
wait is the vVv team who has LmQ in the first round the cheesedbulooga/porpise team or is it the other one?

LMQ is vs vVv red BeeSin/PorpoisePops/CheesedBeluga/Dontmasheme/rockblood

Swords

6038 Posts

January 18 2014 22:53 GMT

#2532

On January 19 2014 07:51 Fusilero wrote:

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Patoy entered a bizarre zone, where so many people called him underrated that he ended up being overrated. He's a great support but he's not some kinda world beater (Same for xpecial)

Considering Patoy wasn't practicing all that much last spit, I don't think he'd be too useful come season 4. His champ pool is pretty much useless in the current meta - Fiddle and Sona get erased by Annie/Lucian/Thresh/Jinx/Sivir.

iKill[ShocK]

Vietnam3530 Posts

January 18 2014 22:54 GMT

#2533

im actually excited for DIG vs EG, bottom feeders vs rejects.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

January 18 2014 22:54 GMT

#2534

someone needs to teach xpecial how to wear headphones.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

January 18 2014 22:54 GMT

#2535

On January 19 2014 07:53 Swords wrote:

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I have a feeling that was a massive factor in dig deciding to remove him, sure he had a great ali/fiddle/sona but he drops off dramatically past them it's quite a constraint in bot lane. He'd have gotten freaking bodied in the current meta.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

January 18 2014 22:54 GMT

#2536

NAs supports are overhyped because the general level of support in NA is just lower.

it's really hard to hone your skills on a ladder where half+ of your opponents are begrudgingly off roling.

@above idk Ali is really good on this patch imo

Yezzus

United States2318 Posts

January 18 2014 22:55 GMT

#2537

That awkward turtle question.... lol

oo_Wonderful_oo

The land of freedom23126 Posts

January 18 2014 22:55 GMT

#2538

On January 19 2014 07:52 Doctorbeat wrote:

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I'm kinda hype for Krepo vs Aphro now

Both have been making big plays.

Ban Leona? Check.
Get Annie for Aphro? Check.
Get Thresh for Krepo? Check.
Enjoy? Check.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

January 18 2014 22:56 GMT

#2539

On January 19 2014 07:54 Fusilero wrote:

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It doesn't really matter if he would have sucked hard. It's that they got rid of Patoy and didn't bother to actually get good players to fill their positions. Removing Patoy was fine honestly it's just what happened after that is a disgrace.

orzeu

Poland5205 Posts

January 18 2014 22:56 GMT

#2540

Good questions Riv.

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