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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 20:51:07
January 16 2014 20:49 GMT
#2321
On January 17 2014 05:46 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 05:43 Slusher wrote:
On January 17 2014 05:41 oneofthem wrote:
tank gragas means their entire team is countered by armor


nobody would be blaming Kev1n if he was playing shy top, which is comparable magic damage, they'd be talking about how kerp dove in and killed himself in every teamfight and how Araneae's Lee does nothing after the lane phase.

well, he didn't pick shyvana though. he was on gragas. maybe tanky gragas was better for their early game focused strat, but the lack of ap was also the clear downside in late game.


how do we even know the armor mattered? Yasuo was just dead withing the first 3 seconds of every fight, on the second baron fight he died before he even ulted? what is he even doing near the enemy before his ult? pls, shy was banned tank Gragas is actually an excellent late game tank, what does he not have? mixed damage? check? spammable slow/ap damae? check Self heals? check damage reduction? also yes, attack speed slow? check, displacement? check

people just being narrow minded this game being a loss had so little to do with the Tank Gragas choice.

people say he does no damage but body slam on a 4 sec cd in teamfights adds up.
Carrilord has arrived.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 16 2014 20:54 GMT
#2322
my original statement was "no ap gragas means their entire team is countered by armor" which is a general statement and true. i didn't really say kevin was to be blamed for the loss or that they could have won with a more ap gragas.

but one area in which ap gragas would have helped would be to affect the enemy's item choices because even fucking lulu was going randuins.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 16 2014 20:57 GMT
#2323
It really shows how impactful fnatic's Elise ban was. If M had Elise instead of Lee, her cocoon + double Q with some MPen would crush Renekton's hp to manageable levels
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 20:58:26
January 16 2014 20:58 GMT
#2324
Fun fact: This kmt roster right after niq and superaze left for vandernoob and jankos was the second team to ever beat copenhagen wolves in the challenger scene (With shook and rekkles as well) at their first tournament together at Dreamhack Bucharest
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 20:59:55
January 16 2014 20:58 GMT
#2325
Riven has been winning games with the big 4 ever since 3.14 spoilers: the big 4 are all pure tanks with the exception of some Rengar builds which are ad. And Riven doesn't even get a free LW for the first 30 seconds of every teamfight.

they lost because they played the comp poorly, not because of their picks, except mabye Lee, but that has more to do with the way Aranae plays Lee than the champion.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
January 16 2014 21:00 GMT
#2326
quikshot STILL talking about how Soaz would of done better with Shyvana...


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 16 2014 21:01 GMT
#2327
Dese polaks. I love them.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 21:02:34
January 16 2014 21:02 GMT
#2328
Wut, how is eve not enough AP. Quikshot pls
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 16 2014 21:02 GMT
#2329
wtf is he talking about Karthus would get completely dumpstered by Yasuo
Carrilord has arrived.
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
January 16 2014 21:02 GMT
#2330
On January 17 2014 05:58 Slusher wrote:
they lost because they played the comp poorly


There is nothing to play with "that comp".

It's a comp that makes no sense.

Gragas literally has the same utility as a Lee Sin, MS&AS debuff and displacement ult, and they picked them BOTH without building a SINGLE damaging item.

They were walking Turrets.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 16 2014 21:02 GMT
#2331
Roccat op.
Riven will deliver.
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 16 2014 21:03 GMT
#2332
On January 17 2014 06:02 Slusher wrote:
wtf is he talking about Karthus would get completely dumpstered by Yasuo


E around all the skittles, /laugh
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9256 Posts
January 16 2014 21:03 GMT
#2333
On January 17 2014 06:00 Gaslo wrote:
quikshot STILL talking about how Soaz would of done better with Shyvana...


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...


On January 17 2014 06:02 Fusilero wrote:
Wut, how is eve not enough AP. Quikshot pls


On January 17 2014 06:02 Slusher wrote:
wtf is he talking about Karthus would get completely dumpstered by Yasuo

Just pretend he's speaking Dutch and it's all good
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 16 2014 21:05 GMT
#2334
On January 17 2014 06:03 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 06:00 Gaslo wrote:
quikshot STILL talking about how Soaz would of done better with Shyvana...


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 06:02 Fusilero wrote:
Wut, how is eve not enough AP. Quikshot pls


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 06:02 Slusher wrote:
wtf is he talking about Karthus would get completely dumpstered by Yasuo

Just pretend he's speaking Dutch and it's all good


Wouldn't help me ;..;
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 16 2014 21:09 GMT
#2335
Jankos jungling really inefficiently, sigh
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 16 2014 21:10 GMT
#2336
On January 17 2014 06:09 Scip wrote:
Jankos jungling really inefficiently, sigh


Can you explain, Diamond overlord?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
January 16 2014 21:11 GMT
#2337
On January 17 2014 06:09 Scip wrote:
Jankos jungling really inefficiently, sigh

Amazing not doing that much better either though :/
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 16 2014 21:12 GMT
#2338
This swapping is so hilarious
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 16 2014 21:12 GMT
#2339
Cowtard is really realy scared lol
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 21:17:00
January 16 2014 21:13 GMT
#2340
On January 17 2014 06:12 Numy wrote:
Cowtard is really realy scared lol

Look at what riven did to his master, can't blame him.
I feel like all this swapping is allowing xaxus to perma proxy because amazing can't really help due to all the swapping.
YEAH YOU GET THOSE TREES OVERPOW
Glorious SEA doto
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