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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 24 2013 13:10 GMT
#661
On November 24 2013 22:09 WhiteDog wrote:
DL is so overrated, he was the best adc two years ago. Now he is just average.

Wildturtle true best ADC NA. He rules challenger with an ironfist, what more do you smurf.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
November 24 2013 13:10 GMT
#662
I was so hurt and sad when Rekkles couldn't play for S3. I've waited and waited, wondered how his return would be.

Wow. Just wow. I'll hold off a couple of games into S4 before I go on a rant about this guy but for a comeback game, this was pretty epic.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 13:11:07
November 24 2013 13:11 GMT
#663
honestly, the last thing i can remember anything impressive out of clg was when link did the one tf play against tsm, and when nien went ham on elise. I've watched every other s3 clg game, and I just draw blanks.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
November 24 2013 13:11 GMT
#664
On November 24 2013 22:09 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 22:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Lol why are we talking about practice? It would take 6 months for CLG to even think about getting to Fnatic's level. Nien and TrickZ still have a LONG, LONG, LONG ways to go as individual players.


I don't know fanboys see what they want. I don't see how you can expect CLG to be on par with fnatic after just forming lol. That's huge disrespect for fnatic.

I dont really agree with this though. Every new season the newer teams (i.e. the ones that did not go to worlds and/or just formed) perform extremely well at the beginning of the season. I think thats in part because the established teams take a huge break and simply stop practicing hardcore.. Fnatic is likely not as strong as they have been taking a break. CLG just bad -_-
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 24 2013 13:11 GMT
#665
On November 24 2013 22:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 22:09 WhiteDog wrote:
DL is so overrated, he was the best adc two years ago. Now he is just average.

Wildturtle true best ADC NA. He rules challenger with an ironfist, what more do you smurf.

Zztai: Wildturtle has to do three times the damage he does to carry his team.

Ehuehuehuehehe (Wildturtle is great tho, NA adcs too overrated overall still)
Glorious SEA doto
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 24 2013 13:11 GMT
#666
Its ok NA bros, patch 3.14 will change everything! I can dream right?
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 24 2013 13:12 GMT
#667
On November 24 2013 22:10 Cuddle wrote:
I was so hurt and sad when Rekkles couldn't play for S3. I've waited and waited, wondered how his return would be.

Wow. Just wow. I'll hold off a couple of games into S4 before I go on a rant about this guy but for a comeback game, this was pretty epic.


The lane was over when CLG went way too deep on Zyra. Rekkles is good and CLG suck but you are going just a little overboard.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 24 2013 13:12 GMT
#668
On November 24 2013 22:11 Vonthin wrote:
Its ok NA bros, patch 3.14 will change everything! I can dream right?

No. The dream died in Worlds with Tabe.

HE SPOKE ENGLISH GAIZ.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 24 2013 13:12 GMT
#669
On November 24 2013 22:11 Vonthin wrote:
Its ok NA bros, patch 3.14 will change everything! I can dream right?

3.14 will be the rise of NA!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 24 2013 13:13 GMT
#670
On November 24 2013 22:11 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 22:09 Numy wrote:
On November 24 2013 22:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Lol why are we talking about practice? It would take 6 months for CLG to even think about getting to Fnatic's level. Nien and TrickZ still have a LONG, LONG, LONG ways to go as individual players.


I don't know fanboys see what they want. I don't see how you can expect CLG to be on par with fnatic after just forming lol. That's huge disrespect for fnatic.

I dont really agree with this though. Every new season the newer teams (i.e. the ones that did not go to worlds and/or just formed) perform extremely well at the beginning of the season. I think thats in part because the established teams take a huge break and simply stop practicing hardcore.. Fnatic is likely not as strong as they have been taking a break. CLG just bad -_-


Well I agree with you as well but I think that only really happens with truly new teams or new core teams. CLG hasn't changed their mentality/playstyle/core in any iteration so I think they don't follow the "newer" team trends since their problems never get solved.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
November 24 2013 13:13 GMT
#671
On November 24 2013 22:08 UmberBane wrote:
Yeah I don't think anyone in this thread talking about CLG's potential is serious so far
Doublelift was at the world finals just like Fnatic.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
November 24 2013 13:13 GMT
#672
proper play can obviously be learned but clg doesn't know how. that's why in interviews, they're always baffled by their losses despite, according to them, committing the most time to practice.
Quote?
Heartscry
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
November 24 2013 13:13 GMT
#673
On November 24 2013 22:12 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 22:11 Vonthin wrote:
Its ok NA bros, patch 3.14 will change everything! I can dream right?

3.14 will be the rise** of NA!


**demise
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 24 2013 13:18 GMT
#674
The Karma hate ban wtf
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 24 2013 13:19 GMT
#675
wtf is with this zigg pick? did he got buff?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 13:20:13
November 24 2013 13:19 GMT
#676
On November 24 2013 22:18 Lylat wrote:
The Karma hate ban wtf

Idk why they went for karma instead of nid, maybe they wanted to run the nid comp themselves and banned karma to prevent fnatic from doing a siege comp.
On November 24 2013 22:19 justiceknight wrote:
wtf is with this zigg pick? did he got buff?

Assassin nerfs + a small buff.
Glorious SEA doto
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 24 2013 13:20 GMT
#677
On November 24 2013 22:12 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 22:11 Vonthin wrote:
Its ok NA bros, patch 3.14 will change everything! I can dream right?

No. The dream died in Worlds with Tabe.

HE SPOKE ENGLISH GAIZ.



its k, soon I can chant USA USA USA every time a Korean team beats a foreign team like when Polt wins in sc2, quantic is now the new NA hope.

Anyways I've played with Trickz a couple times in normals with my friend and talked to him a couple times, he can play a lot better than this and has a ton of game knowledge, Aphro has been impressing me, a lot more than when he was support in the past. In all seriousness I do think they have the skill(I refuse to use the word potential) to perform at the top level. Nien has been letting me down, he was a lot better as an ADC
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
November 24 2013 13:21 GMT
#678
I surrender.

Not going to stop me from cheering for TSM but... you Europeans win.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
November 24 2013 13:21 GMT
#679
ziggs vs xpeke's ori...

this is not ending prettty
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ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
November 24 2013 13:23 GMT
#680
Very tanky frontline for CLG which is the best way to deal with AoE comps

Plus Ezreal is definitely not the ADC you want to deal with tanks
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