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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
April 28 2014 13:41 GMT
#421
On April 28 2014 22:36 Thinasy wrote:
Ehm, so does this mean K wont be in OGN summer..?


They are not guaranteed a spot, no. However they will be seeded into the final stage of the qualifiers and will only need to win against (most likely) weaker teams to get back in.
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 13:46:04
April 28 2014 13:45 GMT
#422
On April 28 2014 22:41 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 22:36 Thinasy wrote:
Ehm, so does this mean K wont be in OGN summer..?


They are not guaranteed a spot, no. However they will be seeded into the final stage of the qualifiers and will only need to win against (most likely) weaker teams to get back in.

No, it's a seed. If you check the rules for spring seeding, top 7 teams from OGN Champions Winter were seeded (xenics did something dumb and had to qualify) By extension, assuming nothing odd happens, it should be top 8 this season.
hemeh
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 13:50:20
April 28 2014 13:46 GMT
#423
On April 28 2014 22:41 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 22:36 Thinasy wrote:
Ehm, so does this mean K wont be in OGN summer..?


They are not guaranteed a spot, no. However they will be seeded into the final stage of the qualifiers and will only need to win against (most likely) weaker teams to get back in.


Doesn't OGN have seeds for top-8 + NLB winner if this team wasn't in top-8?
Because at least last 2 times they did so, with removing CTU and Xenics and seeding top-7 + NJBS sometimes.

On April 28 2014 22:45 urasyupi2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 22:41 bokchoi wrote:
On April 28 2014 22:36 Thinasy wrote:
Ehm, so does this mean K wont be in OGN summer..?


They are not guaranteed a spot, no. However they will be seeded into the final stage of the qualifiers and will only need to win against (most likely) weaker teams to get back in.

No, it's a seed. If you check the rules for spring seeding, top 7 teams from OGN Champions Winter were seeded (xenics did something dumb and had to qualify) By extension, assuming nothing odd happens, it should be top 8 this season.


Because Xenics were going through rebuilding process and you have to have 3/5 of previous roster to confirm seed.
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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
April 28 2014 13:51 GMT
#424
BTW I noticed NiceGameTV casts LCS, are Koreans actually interested in western League or is more the case of NGTV filling air time?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 28 2014 13:54 GMT
#425
On April 28 2014 22:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 22:36 Thinasy wrote:
Ehm, so does this mean K wont be in OGN summer..?


Kidding? It only means that K will get less points into circuit and Frost will get more.
Also it's chance for another CJ team to dethrone Sword from NLB throne :D

Top-8 from OGN are seeded anyway into Summer.


Alright, no im not kidding. I dont usually follow NLB, i've never had to seeing as K wasnt ever in it and when I used to watch before that Azubu Frost was the team I followed and they really never had these problems either.

But good to know atleast, thank you for the help.

Also Bengi's champion pool is just awful, I know alot of people will say Faker played really bad today, while he did some extremely questionable calls I still feel that Bengi is the main problem since after OGN Winter. It's just really hard for Faker especially when both other mid laners have gotten a lot better and they have better junglers.

Impact just played these games very bad too, not sure why he insists on going ignite really, either way K is gonna need to really learn this patch/upcoming ones for them to even make ro8 next time:/
Jaedong & Faker
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 14:01:13
April 28 2014 13:57 GMT
#426
On April 28 2014 22:51 AlterKot wrote:
BTW I noticed NiceGameTV casts LCS, are Koreans actually interested in western League or is more the case of NGTV filling air time?


NiceGameTV has sick production value btw, their intro graphics are just incredible.
And i guess, it's ok for teams that they can watch LCS on their language in general + they can research easily.

On April 28 2014 22:54 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 22:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 22:36 Thinasy wrote:
Ehm, so does this mean K wont be in OGN summer..?


Kidding? It only means that K will get less points into circuit and Frost will get more.
Also it's chance for another CJ team to dethrone Sword from NLB throne :D

Top-8 from OGN are seeded anyway into Summer.


Alright, no im not kidding. I dont usually follow NLB, i've never had to seeing as K wasnt ever in it and when I used to watch before that Azubu Frost was the team I followed and they really never had these problems either.

But good to know atleast, thank you for the help.

Also Bengi's champion pool is just awful, I know alot of people will say Faker played really bad today, while he did some extremely questionable calls I still feel that Bengi is the main problem since after OGN Winter. It's just really hard for Faker especially when both other mid laners have gotten a lot better and they have better junglers.

Impact just played these games very bad too, not sure why he insists on going ignite really, either way K is gonna need to really learn this patch/upcoming ones for them to even make ro8 next time:/


Np, sorry if i offended you somehow.

Bengi is slumping in general, that's nothing new here. I guess, his champion pool is ok, K's rotations aren't as crisp as they were before, that's it, so right now they have to have Faker and Impact dominating their lanes and then continue to roll. Piglet and Pooh tho improved a lot, i guess, they're going to be the best duo again in Summer.

Faker played mediocre tonight, CoCo and Swift just manhandled him + Madlife was sick tonight, dunno why does everyone flame him again, being a God forever isn't possible. I like how Swift is improving, Frost can be a real contender this way in Summer, if ofc they don't draw Blaze in Summer groups.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 28 2014 14:09 GMT
#427
any VODS of SKT vs frost? i totally missed this wtf
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 28 2014 14:27 GMT
#428
On April 28 2014 22:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 22:51 AlterKot wrote:
BTW I noticed NiceGameTV casts LCS, are Koreans actually interested in western League or is more the case of NGTV filling air time?


NiceGameTV has sick production value btw, their intro graphics are just incredible.
And i guess, it's ok for teams that they can watch LCS on their language in general + they can research easily.

Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 22:54 Thinasy wrote:
On April 28 2014 22:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 22:36 Thinasy wrote:
Ehm, so does this mean K wont be in OGN summer..?


Kidding? It only means that K will get less points into circuit and Frost will get more.
Also it's chance for another CJ team to dethrone Sword from NLB throne :D

Top-8 from OGN are seeded anyway into Summer.


Alright, no im not kidding. I dont usually follow NLB, i've never had to seeing as K wasnt ever in it and when I used to watch before that Azubu Frost was the team I followed and they really never had these problems either.

But good to know atleast, thank you for the help.

Also Bengi's champion pool is just awful, I know alot of people will say Faker played really bad today, while he did some extremely questionable calls I still feel that Bengi is the main problem since after OGN Winter. It's just really hard for Faker especially when both other mid laners have gotten a lot better and they have better junglers.

Impact just played these games very bad too, not sure why he insists on going ignite really, either way K is gonna need to really learn this patch/upcoming ones for them to even make ro8 next time:/


Np, sorry if i offended you somehow.

Bengi is slumping in general, that's nothing new here. I guess, his champion pool is ok, K's rotations aren't as crisp as they were before, that's it, so right now they have to have Faker and Impact dominating their lanes and then continue to roll. Piglet and Pooh tho improved a lot, i guess, they're going to be the best duo again in Summer.

Faker played mediocre tonight, CoCo and Swift just manhandled him + Madlife was sick tonight, dunno why does everyone flame him again, being a God forever isn't possible. I like how Swift is improving, Frost can be a real contender this way in Summer, if ofc they don't draw Blaze in Summer groups.


Nah you didnt, so thats fine, I should have doublechecked it myself seeing as the question might be kinda stupid in a thread regarding NLB lol.

But yeah, Bengi is definitely slumping but that last game especially struck me as very good game to show why I dont like his champion pool, I mean Frost banned Eve, K banned Lee and then Frost picked Elise and he was forced to go Nunu, since he doesnt really play the current FF junglers, hell I feel like a Nocturne should have worked fairly well that game.

Regarding rotations is definitely a problem aswell and I do agree with the hundred acre lane playing alot better again, also Godlife really did show up today, I really shouldnt put too much blame on K but it's baffling to think that this team did go undefeated just a couple of months ago.

Patches do really screw with teams that's for sure.
Jaedong & Faker
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
April 28 2014 15:14 GMT
#429
According to Reddit the internet died at the SKT house and they had to go play from the Jinair house lomo.
TranslatorBaa!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 28 2014 17:36 GMT
#430
SKT K slump too hard
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 17:42:52
April 28 2014 17:41 GMT
#431
On April 28 2014 23:27 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 22:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 22:51 AlterKot wrote:
BTW I noticed NiceGameTV casts LCS, are Koreans actually interested in western League or is more the case of NGTV filling air time?


NiceGameTV has sick production value btw, their intro graphics are just incredible.
And i guess, it's ok for teams that they can watch LCS on their language in general + they can research easily.

On April 28 2014 22:54 Thinasy wrote:
On April 28 2014 22:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 22:36 Thinasy wrote:
Ehm, so does this mean K wont be in OGN summer..?


Kidding? It only means that K will get less points into circuit and Frost will get more.
Also it's chance for another CJ team to dethrone Sword from NLB throne :D

Top-8 from OGN are seeded anyway into Summer.


Alright, no im not kidding. I dont usually follow NLB, i've never had to seeing as K wasnt ever in it and when I used to watch before that Azubu Frost was the team I followed and they really never had these problems either.

But good to know atleast, thank you for the help.

Also Bengi's champion pool is just awful, I know alot of people will say Faker played really bad today, while he did some extremely questionable calls I still feel that Bengi is the main problem since after OGN Winter. It's just really hard for Faker especially when both other mid laners have gotten a lot better and they have better junglers.

Impact just played these games very bad too, not sure why he insists on going ignite really, either way K is gonna need to really learn this patch/upcoming ones for them to even make ro8 next time:/


Np, sorry if i offended you somehow.

Bengi is slumping in general, that's nothing new here. I guess, his champion pool is ok, K's rotations aren't as crisp as they were before, that's it, so right now they have to have Faker and Impact dominating their lanes and then continue to roll. Piglet and Pooh tho improved a lot, i guess, they're going to be the best duo again in Summer.

Faker played mediocre tonight, CoCo and Swift just manhandled him + Madlife was sick tonight, dunno why does everyone flame him again, being a God forever isn't possible. I like how Swift is improving, Frost can be a real contender this way in Summer, if ofc they don't draw Blaze in Summer groups.


Nah you didnt, so thats fine, I should have doublechecked it myself seeing as the question might be kinda stupid in a thread regarding NLB lol.

But yeah, Bengi is definitely slumping but that last game especially struck me as very good game to show why I dont like his champion pool, I mean Frost banned Eve, K banned Lee and then Frost picked Elise and he was forced to go Nunu, since he doesnt really play the current FF junglers, hell I feel like a Nocturne should have worked fairly well that game.

Regarding rotations is definitely a problem aswell and I do agree with the hundred acre lane playing alot better again, also Godlife really did show up today, I really shouldnt put too much blame on K but it's baffling to think that this team did go undefeated just a couple of months ago.

Patches do really screw with teams that's for sure.


Koreans in general don't play a lot of Nocturne right now but Bengi played Xin Zhao against Prime in previous round, so idk.
And Bengi played Nunu forever, they're just not using him as before sadly.

On April 28 2014 23:09 justiceknight wrote:
any VODS of SKT vs frost? i totally missed this wtf


http://www.youtube.com/user/officialNGTV/videos
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 28 2014 18:02 GMT
#432


lol the commentators

Bengi and impact are in slump, they are totally useless or fail execute their plan at all.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 28 2014 23:23 GMT
#433
The whole team is slumping. Every other day is another player underperforming and their team in general just doesn't understand how to use the jungle.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51418 Posts
April 29 2014 12:58 GMT
#434
Sword #KingsOfNLB
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 29 2014 13:00 GMT
#435
sword got denied by blaze last season, will frost able to stop them this time?????
baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
April 29 2014 13:14 GMT
#436
I would love to go back in time to the eve of the previous Winter semi-finals and tell people that T1K and KTB would meet next in the 3rd place playoff game in NLB.
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