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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 29 2013 03:15 GMT
#2721
Living theee dreeeeeeeeam!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 29 2013 03:15 GMT
#2722
THE FUCKING PULLS
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
April 29 2013 03:15 GMT
#2723
GODHAND
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 03:16:52
April 29 2013 03:15 GMT
#2724
Is this going to be one of those games where nothing really happens until 30 minutes and then it is one team fight and game over? I really hope not.

Edit: Or maybe it will just be a blitz hook on Xpecial every 5 minutes.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
April 29 2013 03:15 GMT
#2725
The hooks, they are disgusting, I love them all.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 03:16 GMT
#2726
Ah, well, fuck it, TSM lost, grats GGU, yadda-yadda, I give up on them. Unless GGU throws TSM's too pressured to recover in time.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
April 29 2013 03:16 GMT
#2727
It feels like Xpecial is playing poorly early in games. Is he just unlucky or is he eating too many skill shots?
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 29 2013 03:16 GMT
#2728
On April 29 2013 12:15 TheSinisterRed wrote:
Is this going to be one of those games where nothing really happens until 30 minutes and then it is one team fight and game over? I really hope not.


Not really. TSM is on their back foot and down in turrets. They'll be forced to make some moves.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
April 29 2013 03:17 GMT
#2729
Btw, TOO has now used 3 different Cho skins in this series
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 29 2013 03:17 GMT
#2730
On April 29 2013 12:09 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 12:07 LaM wrote:
On April 29 2013 12:03 Kuja900 wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:59 LaM wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:56 Kuja900 wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:55 LaM wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:52 Kuja900 wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:46 Takkara wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:44 Kuja900 wrote:
i really want ggu to take this just because of reginalds arrogant twitter post


Do you really think that was genuine arrogance? It's the playful showboating that TSM has ALWAYS done to ham it up a bit for the fans/viewers.


It really doesn;t matter I just think Reginald is an arrogant child who drags his team down and pitches blame. Having a one shot caller law methodology where whenever things start going bad the shotcaller (regi) goes basically mute is just hurting the team. For tsm to evolve and work around regi they need to have everybody talking and contributing (or at least most of them) like gambit. I really feel like wildturtle can contribute a lot in this regard, I love turtle he was a fantastic pickup for them that I think will pay huge long term dividends.


Every team does try and have everybody talk, but having one shot caller is almost always best. Multiple shot callers leads to misplays, there's no debating it. The best format is to have everybody feeding information to each other so that they can make the best individual decisions and their shot caller can make the best calls possible. Anything other than that and people are either under informed or being told to do conflicting things.

Also, prolly is annoying as fuck. Everything you say doesn't need to be accompanied by a weird face and attempted hilarious joke to show le peoples how cool you are.


Theres a subtitlted gambit game on youtube and if you watch it you can tell there is no shotcaller on that team, they are all coming up with ideas as a unit.


I'm not sure why that should be important to me at all. Even if you are correctly diagnosing how Gambit communicates off one subtitled game, that just makes them different from almost every other high level team in every region. Having multiple shot-callers is bad, having everybody communicating is good. At the end of the day though, you need a voice that everybody will listen to saying whether to go in, back off, rush baron, etc, etc...


I'm just stating my opinion your trying to pitch yours as fact and I find that rude. That is just the easy way to do things. With practice and sufficient game knowledge in your squad it is not the only possibility.


I guess. You were insulting players and pro teams and trying to back it up off one subtitled Gambit game from months ago. Meanwhile, pro teams speak over and over again about the importance of having a shot caller that people listen to, and the best way to facilitate that being a constant stream of information from his team mates in order for the right calls to be made by that caller. I'm not sure how me having a substantiated, well-backed opinion is rude unless you simply don't want to make the same commitment to the discussion as I have.


I edited my post and please read the rest of it. I've heard plenty of north american teams talk about 1 shot caller being important but the key word being north american aka the weakest region in the world.


I did read the rest of it. I'm not sure what it adds to the discussion, I'm already aware that you think Gambit doesn't have a shot caller and makes calls together, and I'm aware they are a good team.

There's nothing unique about North America having singular shot callers. In fact, it's something they largely adapted more recently than, specifically, Korea. Examples of teams based around shot callers include Maknoon on NJ Sword and Reapered on SK Telecom T1, in these cases the whole team was built specifically around that player and their calls. In China, Misaya is and has been the designated caller for what many feel to be the world's most consistently strong team, WE. Much of TPA's success during their big run at Worlds was attributed to their dedication to the calls of Mistake.

I'm really not sure what you are trying to base your argument off of. Apparently you dislike Regi and like Gambit, and are therefore attempting to paint individual shot callers as a low-level, North American theme. Unfortunately, that's completely incorrect.
Anything is Possible
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 03:18:26
April 29 2013 03:17 GMT
#2731
On April 29 2013 12:16 Alaric wrote:
Ah, well, fuck it, TSM lost, grats GGU, yadda-yadda, I give up on them. Unless GGU throws TSM's too pressured to recover in time.


Far from over, its a 2.5k diff
Edit: and its less than 1k now.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
April 29 2013 03:17 GMT
#2732
Big Plays from the Oddone
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#2733
Yep that teamcomp looked real strong in a 5v5 there...
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 03:18:23
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#2734
MF ult. Oops, noone alive in range of it.
(Granted, they were kinda already dead.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#2735
As soon as I saw OddOne stroll up on Cho'gath I knew GGU wasn't getting that Dragon.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#2736
TSM turnaround at Dragon fight

TEEE ESSS AYMMMM
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#2737
Xspecial actually failed pretty bad there, didn't ult cait which would have meant he dies but cait also dies.
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#2738
On April 29 2013 12:17 Ziken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 12:16 Alaric wrote:
Ah, well, fuck it, TSM lost, grats GGU, yadda-yadda, I give up on them. Unless GGU throws TSM's too pressured to recover in time.


Far from over, its a 2.5k diff

Aaand its even!
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#2739
Looks like General OddOne is going to have to carry
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#2740
On April 29 2013 12:16 Alaric wrote:
Ah, well, fuck it, TSM lost, grats GGU, yadda-yadda, I give up on them. Unless GGU throws TSM's too pressured to recover in time.


What you talking about Willis even before that last fight it was still close o-o
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