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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 29 2013 01:46 GMT
#2541
On April 29 2013 10:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 10:19 red_ wrote:
On April 29 2013 10:11 daSilvaz wrote:
Zed wins all games in EU finals hours before NA and they dont even consider him, then wonder why ppl think they are so behind Oo


That's faulty logic for multiple reasons, not the least of which is that Reginald and Jintae are not xPeke and Alex Ich. Should they know how to abuse Zed in mid? Probably ya. But just because he dominates a match hours before yours doesn't make you a master at playing him, and Zed definitely isn't a champ you just pick up and stomp with(against other professionals), his kit has nuance.


Wick'd also shows Zed is sick toplane.

...


We could probably take this to general, but my point was that you can't just sat 'X champ dominated EU finals, why NA teams not abusing it 2 hours later.' If you want to just flat out say NA is way behind on identifying and learning champions that are strong, because Zed has been known to be super strong for a lot longer than just today, that's plenty fine, I have no problem with that. There's also the issue of Zed not meshing as well with the ADC-centric compositions/strategies of most NA teams either(almost every NA team funnels farm to ADC, so you wouldn't have the 350 cs splitpushing Zed over here).

Saying NA is behind is valid. Saying they're behind because they don't just rip strategies/champ picks from games that happened hours ago is retarded.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 01:46 GMT
#2542
WT a bit too entusiastic.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 29 2013 01:46 GMT
#2543
That was a Thresh hook on WT, not the net surely?
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 29 2013 01:47 GMT
#2544
Haha turtle going way too manmode dives daydreamin under his nexus turrets and dies.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 29 2013 01:47 GMT
#2545
Riv says Turtle doesn't have the PD.

*Sees Turtle having the PD*
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 29 2013 01:47 GMT
#2546
Wildturtle living up to his name.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
April 29 2013 01:47 GMT
#2547
Insanity Turtle
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 29 2013 01:48 GMT
#2548
The fight was lost the moment Regi dived on nocturne instead of Mashme
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
April 29 2013 01:49 GMT
#2549
I feel like GGU had that game... they just had 2 mega throws.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
April 29 2013 01:50 GMT
#2550
Wow. WIldturtle outplayed Mashme at the end there.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
April 29 2013 01:50 GMT
#2551
3 inhibs down. Whole base full of supercreeps and this guy screams if it is xpeke vs SK again ...
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 01:51:23
April 29 2013 01:50 GMT
#2552
On April 29 2013 10:46 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 10:23 cLutZ wrote:
On April 29 2013 10:19 red_ wrote:
On April 29 2013 10:11 daSilvaz wrote:
Zed wins all games in EU finals hours before NA and they dont even consider him, then wonder why ppl think they are so behind Oo


That's faulty logic for multiple reasons, not the least of which is that Reginald and Jintae are not xPeke and Alex Ich. Should they know how to abuse Zed in mid? Probably ya. But just because he dominates a match hours before yours doesn't make you a master at playing him, and Zed definitely isn't a champ you just pick up and stomp with(against other professionals), his kit has nuance.


Wick'd also shows Zed is sick toplane.

...


We could probably take this to general, but my point was that you can't just sat 'X champ dominated EU finals, why NA teams not abusing it 2 hours later.' If you want to just flat out say NA is way behind on identifying and learning champions that are strong, because Zed has been known to be super strong for a lot longer than just today, that's plenty fine, I have no problem with that. There's also the issue of Zed not meshing as well with the ADC-centric compositions/strategies of most NA teams either(almost every NA team funnels farm to ADC, so you wouldn't have the 350 cs splitpushing Zed over here).

Saying NA is behind is valid. Saying they're behind because they don't just rip strategies/champ picks from games that happened hours ago is retarded.


Zed is better in that kind of meta though. Because even if you die without getting a kill R>E>Q is enough to zone an ad carry for the duration of the fight meaning a win.

Edit.

That is basically what Regi does on Diana. Zed is just better at it and he is uncomfortable on Zed for some reason.
Freeeeeeedom
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 29 2013 01:50 GMT
#2553
Poll: Recommend TSM vs GGU Game 3?

If you have time (6)
 
67%

No (3)
 
33%

Yes (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TSM vs GGU Game 3?

(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No
(Vote): Yes

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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 29 2013 01:50 GMT
#2554
On April 29 2013 10:49 caelym wrote:
I feel like GGU had that game... they just had 2 mega throws.

Throws? Were they ever ahead in gold once?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2013 01:51 GMT
#2555
On April 29 2013 10:48 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
The fight was lost the moment Regi dived on nocturne instead of Mashme

I thought the same, that not instagibbing Twitch was gonna make TSM lose the fight, but suddenly you have Cho/Renekton/Diana and Cait's range (supplemented by Sona's W and the nash regen) against a very ult-dependent teamcomp. The moment GGU didn't win the fight decisively by the end of Spray and Pray, TSM had the inhibs secured.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 29 2013 01:51 GMT
#2556
On April 29 2013 10:50 Nitan wrote:
Wow. WIldturtle outplayed Mashme at the end there.


Wasn't just WT, Mashme ran on top of WT but that put him next to Dyrus. WT got the final blow but I think Dyrus got 1-2 skills on Mashme too there
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
April 29 2013 01:53 GMT
#2557
On April 29 2013 10:50 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 10:49 caelym wrote:
I feel like GGU had that game... they just had 2 mega throws.

Throws? Were they ever ahead in gold once?

They for sure had the better teamfight power before getting aced for nothing at mid inner tower.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 29 2013 02:02 GMT
#2558
This sums up LR threads in a nutshell xD
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 02:06:10
April 29 2013 02:04 GMT
#2559
The numbers of people watching is really subpar when you compare with the EU lcs one.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 29 2013 02:06 GMT
#2560
On April 29 2013 11:04 ExoFun wrote:
The numbers of people watching is really subpar when you watch the EU lcs one.


NA LCS probably has significantly less European viewers given the time, while EU LCS probably had tons of NA viewers because it's Sunday and most people weren't occupied during mid-day like they normally would be.
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