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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
April 13 2013 20:39 GMT
#181
Poll: Recommend Giants vs DB Week 9?

No (5)
 
83%

If you have time (1)
 
17%

Yes (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Giants vs DB Week 9?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 13 2013 20:40 GMT
#182
On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die.


As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 13 2013 21:00 GMT
#183
On April 14 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die.


As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now.

I vote Nasus for that.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 13 2013 21:39 GMT
#184
On April 14 2013 06:00 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die.


As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now.

I vote Nasus for that.


You're not overplayed if you are really strong. Varus is a crappy Kog Maw IMO.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 13 2013 21:42 GMT
#185
I, too, don't understand the Varus explosion in use. @_@
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
April 13 2013 21:56 GMT
#186
Adding in the abnormal number of whiffed Ults, it makes even less sense to me.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 13 2013 22:04 GMT
#187
I don't see analogy between Varus and Kog but Kupon3ss mentioned that both have % damage. Shredding HP stacking champs is nice I guess. But still... Varus @_@
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Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
April 13 2013 22:09 GMT
#188
Varus is great when played right. He's actually very hard to shut down during early game (this particular game was just special........), and his lategame is quite amazing in an AoE comp. Great potential for pickoffs / surprise initiates through his ulti too - most people vastly underestimate its range. Pretty sure the only reason we haven't seen any impressive Varus plays so far is because people aren't used to playing him.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 13 2013 22:37 GMT
#189
On April 14 2013 06:39 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 06:00 Gahlo wrote:
On April 14 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die.


As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now.

I vote Nasus for that.


You're not overplayed if you are really strong. Varus is a crappy Kog Maw IMO.

Name any champion where you miss your ult 80% of the time, or it effectively does nothing, and it will look bad.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 13 2013 23:10 GMT
#190
On April 14 2013 07:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't see analogy between Varus and Kog but Kupon3ss mentioned that both have % damage. Shredding HP stacking champs is nice I guess. But still... Varus @_@


Also they both lack escape mechanisms besides an AOE slow. Honestly I think Varus is a lot like Ashe...who no one plays, for those same reasons.

And his HP shred is so unreliable because you need to hit abilities, but you need to charge it, and you want to use E early so you don't die.


On April 14 2013 07:37 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 06:39 cLutZ wrote:
On April 14 2013 06:00 Gahlo wrote:
On April 14 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
On April 14 2013 05:37 triangle wrote:
Varus runs in after the fight is almost over so he can die.


As he is wont to do. Varus most overplayed champ right now.

I vote Nasus for that.


You're not overplayed if you are really strong. Varus is a crappy Kog Maw IMO.

Name any champion where you miss your ult 80% of the time, or it effectively does nothing, and it will look bad.


Caitlyn...

I'm just saying people need to use him properly, not as this ADC that fits every team comp. He has a problem: He needs a protect comp, but his DPS isn't strong enough for a Kog-Style protect comp, so it needs to be a poke/disengage comp.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 14 2013 00:20 GMT
#191
What do you mean you need to hit abilites?If you can't hit your e/q you really shouldn't be playing any champs with skillshots lol.....

Actually varus is good BECAUSE he fits in every team comp.The only ad that should beat you in lane is cait (pre 6) and your ultimate is just an amazing initiate/disengage.Also if you get an easier lane and can afford to max q instead of e his mid game poke is REALLY good.Considering how popular champs with no flashes are(volibear/nasus/renek) your ulti+e just allow you to kite very easily.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 14 2013 00:27 GMT
#192
On April 14 2013 09:20 nafta wrote:
What do you mean you need to hit abilites?If you can't hit your e/q you really shouldn't be playing any champs with skillshots lol.....

Actually varus is good BECAUSE he fits in every team comp.The only ad that should beat you in lane is cait (pre 6) and your ultimate is just an amazing initiate/disengage.Also if you get an easier lane and can afford to max q instead of e his mid game poke is REALLY good.Considering how popular champs with no flashes are(volibear/nasus/renek) your ulti+e just allow you to kite very easily.


But WHEN does that happen?
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 14 2013 00:34 GMT
#193
On April 14 2013 09:27 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 09:20 nafta wrote:
What do you mean you need to hit abilites?If you can't hit your e/q you really shouldn't be playing any champs with skillshots lol.....

Actually varus is good BECAUSE he fits in every team comp.The only ad that should beat you in lane is cait (pre 6) and your ultimate is just an amazing initiate/disengage.Also if you get an easier lane and can afford to max q instead of e his mid game poke is REALLY good.Considering how popular champs with no flashes are(volibear/nasus/renek) your ulti+e just allow you to kite very easily.


But WHEN does that happen?


Assuming you asking when you can max q in 2v1 it's better anyway.In some situations the extra slow on e might be better still so it's arguable.

You are just underestimating the cc his ulti brings and overestimating the damage of most adc.The magic damage actually does quite a bit of damage.A lot of times you get shit like nasus/renek/shen/voli etc with infinity hp and they just stack armor so it does decent dmg.Obviously kog outdamages him but kog isn't as good in lane and he doesn't give you hard cc with 1075 range.Varus just has respectable damage and very good cc for mid game when most adc are really weak.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 14 2013 00:47 GMT
#194
What is like a VOD of a varus basically carrying in a way another ADC would not have been able to?
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 00:58:27
April 14 2013 00:55 GMT
#195
On April 14 2013 09:47 cLutZ wrote:
What is like a VOD of a varus basically carrying in a way another ADC would not have been able to?

I remember several instances when a Varus ult won the game. Most recently SK vs EG had several good ones.
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JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
April 14 2013 01:12 GMT
#196
Varus is an amazing 2nd/3rd position AD carry because the %hp damage isn't strictly farm dependent. Also with slightly less farm he brings lots of utility to the table with CC that other ADs don't. In a mid dominated league like the EU LCS, he's a great option to fill behind the farm dominant players like Alex Ich, Froggen, etc.

He's not as strong of a S2 1st position dominate game and carry pick.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 14 2013 01:13 GMT
#197
It's shame that GIANTS have 29% winrate. They showed much better and excited games compared to SK.
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Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
April 14 2013 02:07 GMT
#198
I feel like Varus is a situational pick, especially vs volibear with the self peel and healing reduction. He tends to fail when he tries to use ult to initiate and misses which happens a lot more than it should.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 14 2013 07:33 GMT
#199
Note to watch Sk v. EG
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 14 2013 16:01 GMT
#200
Hope EG will win Oo
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