EPTTSM handled that game a lot better than CLGna or SK did though. Even if they got owned at least it didn't look as bad as the CLGvFrost or SKvFrost games.
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overt
United States9006 Posts
TSM handled that game a lot better than CLGna or SK did though. Even if they got owned at least it didn't look as bad as the CLGvFrost or SKvFrost games. | ||
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henrikyo
Norway755 Posts
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ArcticFox
United States1092 Posts
And if not taking Jayce...why not effing ban it? | ||
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Shivaz
Canada1783 Posts
On October 06 2012 09:28 QuakerOats wrote: I mean if Chauster and TSM both seem to think it's good, or at the very least decent since they were willing to pick it... ya but i dont think tsm has any general thought process in their picks except this champ is pretty solid in general so lets pick it instead of reasoning. and also i can totally hear their chat regi: omg dude dude pick karthus its up bro baylife dyrus: yo pick me darius lol | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
how was the M5 vs iG game? close? | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
What do you see? | ||
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henrikyo
Norway755 Posts
On October 06 2012 09:29 Slaughter wrote: Picking comps is a huge part of the game? Its part of why teams like Frost are superior they pick better with better understanding of matchups and team compositions. You dont see the fault in your statement? Its a huge part of the game, TSM fails at picking, then they shouldnt deserve to win. | ||
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RealQ
1120 Posts
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
On October 06 2012 09:29 ArcticFox wrote: I'm still confused as to why they HAD to have Karthus first pick instead of taking Jayce away with that first pick. Wasn't there a pretty high chance they would still get Karthus anyway? is AZF known for taking Karthus or am I missing something? No, you're right its an okay 1st pick in solo que but a really bewildering pick in competitive play. TSM traditionally doesn't win by outpicking their opponents, they outplay them...but when up against a team of equal/superior talent...its a glaring weakness. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i think all of them were avoidable | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On October 06 2012 09:27 SHr3DD3r wrote: Except that Darius is actually a horrible pick vs Jayce except its not and both westrice and dyrus said in on their stream (funny how elo hell people think they know better that pros lol), the lane snowballed after the fb | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On October 06 2012 09:29 Slaughter wrote: Picking comps is a huge part of the game? Its part of why teams like Frost are superior they pick better with better understanding of matchups and team compositions. I also only lose when I get counterpicked | ||
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AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
Blitz made sure TSM couldn't sit comfortably under their towers which made it that much easier for AF to siege. | ||
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
On October 06 2012 09:30 Ferrose wrote: Top lane was actually really even until Maokai ganked Dyrus to give Jaysu first blood. CS was like 37-34 in favor of Shy and Dyrus was still near full HP the entire time. Yeah, people seem to forget that before the gank it really wasn't going that badly for Dyrus. It may have ended up the same without the gank but we can't say for sure. | ||
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
On October 06 2012 09:30 Shivaz wrote: ya but i dont think tsm has any general thought process in their picks except this champ is pretty solid in general so lets pick it instead of reasoning. and also i can totally hear their chat regi: omg dude dude pick karthus its up bro baylife dyrus: yo pick me darius lol lol, I think that's exactly what happened.. No strategy in picks, they just pick what they enjoy playing in solo queue.. their picks made no sense at all, whereas Frost picked a super range harass team, was really fun to watch. | ||
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henrikyo
Norway755 Posts
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FindMeInKenya
United States797 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14069 Posts
On October 06 2012 09:31 RealQ wrote: Its funny, but dyrus is auctually TSM's weakness nowadays, i dont know what happend to him, he used to stomp everyone top lane and now.. i havent seen him crush his lane in a big tournament anymore, he seems to get stomped by every single toplaner currently. replace dyrus with TRM from before they picked him up and its the same story. To be fair after dyrus built the sunfire cape he did come back pretty good in the game. Sunfire cape new meta? | ||
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