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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 05 2012 20:12 GMT
#5061
the koreans are way ahead of tsm imo
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 20:12:52
October 05 2012 20:12 GMT
#5062
I have to re-evaluate my impression of Illusion after this game.

It's not just that he's a weak player in the jungle. Realistically I think iG could probably live with that.

His teamfight decision making after the laning phase is just as trash as his jungle play, which is a problem.

XiaoXiao had some of the obvious fuck-ups, but realistically, it was Illusion that was far more lacking in comparison to his M5 counterpart.
Moderator
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
October 05 2012 20:12 GMT
#5063
On October 06 2012 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:08 MrMercuG wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:05 Azarkon wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:05 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:04 HazMat wrote:
White people still in this.


Navi of LoL


Rofl what. None of the top EU / NA teams have even played yet except for M5.


Uh, yeah, because half of them are already out?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the top three teams of EU / NA are: CLG.eu, TSM, and M5, no?

CLG.na, Dignitas, and SK are mid-tier, no?


Uh yeah, no not really. If they were mid-tier why would they be at the Championchips and not other teams?
aznhockeyboy16
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States558 Posts
October 05 2012 20:12 GMT
#5064
On October 06 2012 05:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:09 aznhockeyboy16 wrote:
it seems like yorick kept wasting his ult duplicating ez when cass would just get wrecked in the first 2 seconds of a fight. I feel that it would have been much nicer if they had cass still in the fight instead of a ghost ez.


He ghosted Cass nearly every single time...


Really? because I think he ghosted ez the first two fights they lost. Maybe I'm mistaken.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 05 2012 20:12 GMT
#5065
On October 06 2012 05:12 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:11 TheSinisterRed wrote:
I really don't know what soloQ is going to look like after this tournament. So many new champs that could become flavor of the month.

Even more mid eves shall be the main product of this tournament, now I no longer feel like a dangerous hipster going mid on eve back to xerath for hipsterdrom I suppose.


Top Singed, Mid eve.
Not sure yet about bot, i think we will see more MF.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 05 2012 20:12 GMT
#5066
This has probably already been said but one of the OGN casters is (Z)NalrA, right?
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
October 05 2012 20:13 GMT
#5067
On October 06 2012 05:05 TheYango wrote:
Illusion ults Yorick instead of one of the carries for like the 5th time.

For fuck's sake, if Yorick actually gets his ult off on Cassi, I don't know why you're still ulting him anyway.

they forced him to do that, don't forget that eve is invisible.
this mah s#$%$
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
October 05 2012 20:13 GMT
#5068
On October 06 2012 05:12 Slow Motion wrote:
This has probably already been said but one of the OGN casters is (Z)NalrA, right?


yes
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 05 2012 20:13 GMT
#5069
On October 06 2012 05:12 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:12 Fusilero wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:11 TheSinisterRed wrote:
I really don't know what soloQ is going to look like after this tournament. So many new champs that could become flavor of the month.

Even more mid eves shall be the main product of this tournament, now I no longer feel like a dangerous hipster going mid on eve back to xerath for hipsterdrom I suppose.


Top Singed, Mid eve.
Not sure yet about bot, i think we will see more MF.

I think in general the main trinity will start to weaken for AD carries.
Glorious SEA doto
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 05 2012 20:13 GMT
#5070
On October 06 2012 05:12 aznhockeyboy16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:09 aznhockeyboy16 wrote:
it seems like yorick kept wasting his ult duplicating ez when cass would just get wrecked in the first 2 seconds of a fight. I feel that it would have been much nicer if they had cass still in the fight instead of a ghost ez.


He ghosted Cass nearly every single time...


Really? because I think he ghosted ez the first two fights they lost. Maybe I'm mistaken.

He ghosted Cass in every fight except for the one really bad fight mid where he ghosted himself with Shen also ulting him. Bad coordination of the two ults.
Moderator
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
October 05 2012 20:13 GMT
#5071
On October 06 2012 05:10 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:08 MrMercuG wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:05 Azarkon wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:05 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:04 HazMat wrote:
White people still in this.


Navi of LoL


Rofl what. None of the top EU / NA teams have even played yet except for M5.


Uh, yeah, because half of them are already out?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the top three teams of EU / NA are: CLG.eu, TSM, and M5, no?

CLG.na, Dignitas, and SK are mid-tier, no?


1. M5
2. CLG.eu
3. noone
...
19. CLG.na & TSM
20. All others

Would put TSM on 3 imo, and CLG.EU/M5 are about even
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9766 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5072
On October 06 2012 05:12 Slow Motion wrote:
This has probably already been said but one of the OGN casters is (Z)NalrA, right?

(P)Nal_rA

KANG MIN
Yes.
boomer hands
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5073
On October 06 2012 05:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:09 aznhockeyboy16 wrote:
it seems like yorick kept wasting his ult duplicating ez when cass would just get wrecked in the first 2 seconds of a fight. I feel that it would have been much nicer if they had cass still in the fight instead of a ghost ez.


He ghosted Cass nearly every single time...


he ulted himself a few times because he was bursted in those times. it was great play by darien that forced the decisions (knocking ez + cass away at the dragon and then at the baron etc) combined with burst from his team (alex ich in the first, genja i believe in the second?) because otherwise he wouldn't get an ult off at all without flashing, but he should not be positioned in the first place that that can happen ideally.

the problem was when in the two subsequent teamfights, shen ulted yorick after some light damage on him (probably fearful of the subsequent burst) when alex ich would backstab cass / ezreal. those shen ults should NEVER go on yorick, whether the solution is to position more conservatively as yorick or not, because ezreal simply does not have the survivability to live through ezreal's burst and xin's threat.

people rag on xiaoxiao's play but illusion is the issue here.
Hey! Listen!
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5074
On October 06 2012 05:11 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:10 Djin)ftw( wrote:
didnt M5 have to play a group stage? Oo or am I blind?

Got seeded past it because they won eu regional

you're prolly not blind though


You never know with the fancy-smancy talking smartphones they have nowadays, though every TL page has so much text it would take a whole lot longer for a blind person to get through all that.

So probably not blind but maybe blind without knowing it?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5075
lol im married grin to stone, wtf
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5076
On October 06 2012 05:12 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:08 MrMercuG wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:05 Azarkon wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:05 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:04 HazMat wrote:
White people still in this.


Navi of LoL


Rofl what. None of the top EU / NA teams have even played yet except for M5.


Uh, yeah, because half of them are already out?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the top three teams of EU / NA are: CLG.eu, TSM, and M5, no?

CLG.na, Dignitas, and SK are mid-tier, no?


Uh yeah, no not really. If they were mid-tier why would they be at the Championchips and not other teams?

SK really is only mid tier in Europe, surely not in top 3.
They just had the match of their life against CLG.eu that played abysmal that day.
Off-season = best season
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5077
On October 06 2012 05:12 TheYango wrote:
I have to re-evaluate my impression of Illusion after this game.

It's not just that he's a weak player in the jungle. Realistically I think iG could probably live with that.

His teamfight decision making after the laning phase is just as trash as his jungle play, which is a problem.

XiaoXiao had some of the obvious fuck-ups, but realistically, it was Illusion that was far more lacking in comparison to his M5 counterpart.


That fight where iG got a 2-6 lead at dragon was played really well by XiaoXiao.

Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5078
On October 06 2012 05:13 romanov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 05:10 Morfildur wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:08 MrMercuG wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:05 Azarkon wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:05 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 06 2012 05:04 HazMat wrote:
White people still in this.


Navi of LoL


Rofl what. None of the top EU / NA teams have even played yet except for M5.


Uh, yeah, because half of them are already out?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the top three teams of EU / NA are: CLG.eu, TSM, and M5, no?

CLG.na, Dignitas, and SK are mid-tier, no?


1. M5
2. CLG.eu
3. noone
...
19. CLG.na & TSM
20. All others

Would put TSM on 3 imo, and CLG.EU/M5 are about even


M5 is way ahead of CLG.eu.

CLG.eu can't beat M5 with standard play.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5079
Alex Ich married, didn't know that. More respect to him, manage a family and still play at top level.
Terran
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#5080
Darien's got some smooooth moves.
Glorious SEA doto
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