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[MLG] Summer Arena Discussion - Page 16

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XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
August 04 2012 02:05 GMT
#301
Well played. TSM tried well even falling behind
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2012 02:06 GMT
#302
On August 04 2012 11:04 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 11:01 Sufficiency wrote:
This is why I don't like Vladimir. IMO his late game is absolutely horrid.


I don't understand how you surmised that from this game. The fights that TSM have won consist of a failed tower dive by Azubu, and fights where TSM picks someone off early by someone from Azubu derping and being alone. Has nothing to do with Vlad's late game strength. Which is pretty damn solid.


You can't really threaten the opposing AD carry with a Vladimir. He gets melted. What won the game was Ahri and Maokai imo.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
August 04 2012 02:07 GMT
#303
Poll: Recommend TSM vs Blaze Game 1?

Yes (22)
 
92%

No (2)
 
8%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

24 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TSM vs Blaze Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 04 2012 02:07 GMT
#304
Ahri and Vlad carried pretty hard.

Gave Graves that nice buffer.

Chaox real 1v9.
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
August 04 2012 02:07 GMT
#305
On August 04 2012 11:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 11:04 overt wrote:
On August 04 2012 11:01 Sufficiency wrote:
This is why I don't like Vladimir. IMO his late game is absolutely horrid.


I don't understand how you surmised that from this game. The fights that TSM have won consist of a failed tower dive by Azubu, and fights where TSM picks someone off early by someone from Azubu derping and being alone. Has nothing to do with Vlad's late game strength. Which is pretty damn solid.


You can't really threaten the opposing AD carry with a Vladimir. He gets melted. What won the game was Ahri and Maokai imo.

lol wut?
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 02:08:16
August 04 2012 02:07 GMT
#306
On August 04 2012 11:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 11:04 overt wrote:
On August 04 2012 11:01 Sufficiency wrote:
This is why I don't like Vladimir. IMO his late game is absolutely horrid.


I don't understand how you surmised that from this game. The fights that TSM have won consist of a failed tower dive by Azubu, and fights where TSM picks someone off early by someone from Azubu derping and being alone. Has nothing to do with Vlad's late game strength. Which is pretty damn solid.


You can't really threaten the opposing AD carry with a Vladimir. He gets melted. What won the game was Ahri and Maokai imo.



Vlad is unique in that he can get into the middle of the fight and FORCE the enemy team to switch focus to him.

When they do he simply, pools/zhonyas.

This allows his team to reposition themselves and win the team fight.

Vlad was CRUCIAL to this team comp from Azubu.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 04 2012 02:07 GMT
#307
Oh look they finally killed chaox and won the game.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 04 2012 02:07 GMT
#308
Cross my fingers for a non 3-0 Blaze set
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 04 2012 02:08 GMT
#309
Game really spiraled out of TSM's hands after Regi died. From there, TF literally did nothing all game. Even that 5 man TSM gank bot didn't net much gain. All the while, Vlad got monstrous top.

Navi's loving the SOUL SHROUD by Blaze. :D
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 04 2012 02:09 GMT
#310
On August 04 2012 11:01 Vaporized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 10:50 AsnSensation wrote:
listenings to tsm's voice they are pretty desperate and dont know what to do, these guys have the dont push towers before 20minutes and farm as passive as possible mentality. and regi complains about how early maokai ganks fucked him up instead of coming up with sth useful to turn this game around lol.

Pretty hard rollover from Blaze, I only see clg.eu holding this with turtle comp or m5 straight up outplaying them.

this guy hates america or tsm. either one or the other.


What i. One of the biggest tsm fanboys lol but azubus teamcomp was much better and i dont know if u got dr pepper stream too but they had no plan what to do and got lucky that blaze did a stupid towerdive and chaox got all the kills

Srsly i love tam and dont hate america lol
kenwoo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States484 Posts
August 04 2012 02:09 GMT
#311
twisted fate pick was so bad... i could already tell they were at a disadvantage since the beginning... azubu blaze ditched a large laning phase and that countered the hell outta him
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 04 2012 02:10 GMT
#312
On August 04 2012 11:09 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 11:01 Vaporized wrote:
On August 04 2012 10:50 AsnSensation wrote:
listenings to tsm's voice they are pretty desperate and dont know what to do, these guys have the dont push towers before 20minutes and farm as passive as possible mentality. and regi complains about how early maokai ganks fucked him up instead of coming up with sth useful to turn this game around lol.

Pretty hard rollover from Blaze, I only see clg.eu holding this with turtle comp or m5 straight up outplaying them.

this guy hates america or tsm. either one or the other.


What i. One of the biggest tsm fanboys lol but azubus teamcomp was much better and i dont know if u got dr pepper stream too but they had no plan what to do and got lucky that blaze did a stupid towerdive and chaox got all the kills

Srsly i love tam and dont hate america lol

Wait there's a stream where you can hear players?
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
August 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#313
TSM ran a global gank comp, so Azubu pushed really hard for objectives so they could group, negating TSM's gank comp.

Smart play, but expect TSM to not be caught so offguard.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#314
On August 04 2012 11:10 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 11:09 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 04 2012 11:01 Vaporized wrote:
On August 04 2012 10:50 AsnSensation wrote:
listenings to tsm's voice they are pretty desperate and dont know what to do, these guys have the dont push towers before 20minutes and farm as passive as possible mentality. and regi complains about how early maokai ganks fucked him up instead of coming up with sth useful to turn this game around lol.

Pretty hard rollover from Blaze, I only see clg.eu holding this with turtle comp or m5 straight up outplaying them.

this guy hates america or tsm. either one or the other.


What i. One of the biggest tsm fanboys lol but azubus teamcomp was much better and i dont know if u got dr pepper stream too but they had no plan what to do and got lucky that blaze did a stupid towerdive and chaox got all the kills

Srsly i love tam and dont hate america lol

Wait there's a stream where you can hear players?



the two dr pepper streams

(top right in the mlg player)
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#315
Yeah premium. Buyers get 2 extra streams with team voicechats
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
August 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#316
On August 04 2012 10:59 Deftscythe wrote:
"The Big Bomb comes on his face!"

Ahem.

Anyways, very exciting match. exactly what I expected from the best teams in there respective regions.

Lmao I was like "... Did I hear that right?"
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 04 2012 02:12 GMT
#317
On August 04 2012 11:11 AsnSensation wrote:
Yeah premium. Buyers get 2 extra streams with team voicechats

No.
You don't have to pay to hear them. Like main stream, money is for HQ
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2012 02:13 GMT
#318
On August 04 2012 11:07 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 11:06 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 04 2012 11:04 overt wrote:
On August 04 2012 11:01 Sufficiency wrote:
This is why I don't like Vladimir. IMO his late game is absolutely horrid.


I don't understand how you surmised that from this game. The fights that TSM have won consist of a failed tower dive by Azubu, and fights where TSM picks someone off early by someone from Azubu derping and being alone. Has nothing to do with Vlad's late game strength. Which is pretty damn solid.


You can't really threaten the opposing AD carry with a Vladimir. He gets melted. What won the game was Ahri and Maokai imo.



Vlad is unique in that he can get into the middle of the fight and FORCE the enemy team to switch focus to him.

When they do he simply, pools/zhonyas.

This allows his team to reposition themselves and win the team fight.

Vlad was CRUCIAL to this team comp from Azubu.


The only problem with that his range is so short that he usually gets destroyed before anything happens.

Yes, I am biased against Vladimir. I think his mid game is incredibly strong, but his teamfight utility is pretty poor (he can only do some damage and be somewhat annoying). And yes I do know what his ult does.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 02:15:56
August 04 2012 02:13 GMT
#319
Both teams started to make quite a few mistakes after Azubu played a really nice early game: Dyrus rarely ultimated the really fed corki (mostly ulted himself) Chaox got overeager and wasted his flash/got caught too hard last fight. Azubu obviously shouldnt let TSM come back that hard and nearly take it (considering Azubu had the in my opinion better teamfighting composition it was still acceptable)

Overall I think it was mainly that Reginald didnt do anything throughout the whole game his early ganks didnt do much he didnt got a single kill out of them (when they ganked with 5 ppl bot for getting the drake he got a single assist I think) plus not banning Ahri (didnt watch the bans but that just seems straight up stupid) cost them mainly the game (besides well executed pushing by Azubu which really shut down TFs ganking potential)

Edit: overall for entertainment purpose probably good to watch game because it got pulled around a bit and nearly managed a comeback but filled with quite big mistakes all around (yes I dont like badly executed games )
One interesting thing the commentators said: 73% of the games where 2 inhibs are down are lost by that team. That number is really low, that means that 27% of the games are WON while being 2 inhibs down Oo
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
August 04 2012 02:15 GMT
#320
Well TF was a stupid pick. It was funny how the rest of TSM was all "are you REALLY sure you want TF?" in voicechat and Regi insisted.
Real
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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