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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 14:39:26
August 12 2014 14:38 GMT
#1421
On August 12 2014 21:44 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:27 Gahlo wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:24 LaNague wrote:
lol


So Riot tells CLG that they can have accounts, but they meantTR accounts (misscomunication).
Then CLG complained, Riot made an "internal investigation", which revealed their error and they put in motion to give them the proper accounts, but in the meantime, since Riot has the metabolism of a Sloth, they can only give CLG TR accounts.
Then CLG compensates Riots error and sloppy work by lending accounts for 24 hours, which triggers a 5k fine and a 2 year ban.

Who knew breaking rules had consequences?


Except it doesn't. It only has consequences for a select few and for everyone else it doesn't matter.

Seraph uses Links account in NA, account gets banned with no consequences for Seraph. Lustboy uses Locodoco's account in NA, account doesn't get banned and no consequences for either party. Those are just 2 of the more recent cases.

Shockingly, different regions have different rules. Riot NA fined them $1250. Riot KR is the one that banned them for two years, because in Korea, that's the punishment for account sharing because SSNs are involved.

And CLG fans are treating this like Riot just disbanded the CLG team. You're banned for two years from a league you couldn't participate in anyway. Who gives a fuck?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 12 2014 14:39 GMT
#1422
--- Nuked ---
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 12 2014 14:51 GMT
#1423
On August 12 2014 23:38 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:44 Numy wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:27 Gahlo wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:24 LaNague wrote:
lol


So Riot tells CLG that they can have accounts, but they meantTR accounts (misscomunication).
Then CLG complained, Riot made an "internal investigation", which revealed their error and they put in motion to give them the proper accounts, but in the meantime, since Riot has the metabolism of a Sloth, they can only give CLG TR accounts.
Then CLG compensates Riots error and sloppy work by lending accounts for 24 hours, which triggers a 5k fine and a 2 year ban.

Who knew breaking rules had consequences?


Except it doesn't. It only has consequences for a select few and for everyone else it doesn't matter.

Seraph uses Links account in NA, account gets banned with no consequences for Seraph. Lustboy uses Locodoco's account in NA, account doesn't get banned and no consequences for either party. Those are just 2 of the more recent cases.

Shockingly, different regions have different rules. Riot NA fined them $1250. Riot KR is the one that banned them for two years, because in Korea, that's the punishment for account sharing because SSNs are involved.

And CLG fans are treating this like Riot just disbanded the CLG team. You're banned for two years from a league you couldn't participate in anyway. Who gives a fuck?


Realize your point is favouring what I said? Riot NA were the ones that fined them for committing an act that's against the TsC in Korea but they haven't fined people for committing the same infringements in NA. I said nothing about Riot KR banning those parties for doing things on NA.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 12 2014 14:52 GMT
#1424
On August 12 2014 18:28 killerdog wrote:
I'm in this rather amusing cycle with my plat promo

I duo with a friend, get into promos.
Duo promos with someone from tl, lose promos 1-3
Win two games on my own, get to like 5lp from promos
Next day friend gets back on "dude you fucked it again ffs"
We (me + first friend) win a game, back in promos.

It's happened twice now, exactly like that. Going into third round today lol


I honestly did all I could man, your retard magnet really is something else
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
August 12 2014 14:55 GMT
#1425
On August 12 2014 17:39 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 12:49 sylverfyre wrote:
Top lane right now is secretly "Don't feed, get carried."

That's more or less my jungle style now. After the meta made Vi bad and I couldn't just go and try to get my lanes fed (plus anything that makes the game go late/stall/prevent burst makes Vi worse so the marksmen changes and IE nerfed her in a way), I just hope we pick Kog'Maw or Tristana, pick Nautilus and try to get as big and pseudo-immortal as I can so I can create distractions and cc everyone while my marksman kills everyone.

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 14:58 Navi wrote:

You're playing as Navitar in LoL right? I see you from time to time on pros' streams (usually dying though ).


yes i am the young feedarino

on a slightly related note does anybody else have pretty consistent 130ish and 300+ ping periods these days? I thought it might have coincided with someone's arrival to stay at my place, but they're not downloading or seeding anything- for the last 2 weeks or so i lag pretty consistently in game (usually fine at start and sometime after game starts start lagging with a few periods of relief)
Hey! Listen!
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
August 12 2014 15:14 GMT
#1426
On August 12 2014 23:52 The_Unseen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 18:28 killerdog wrote:
I'm in this rather amusing cycle with my plat promo

I duo with a friend, get into promos.
Duo promos with someone from tl, lose promos 1-3
Win two games on my own, get to like 5lp from promos
Next day friend gets back on "dude you fucked it again ffs"
We (me + first friend) win a game, back in promos.

It's happened twice now, exactly like that. Going into third round today lol


I honestly did all I could man, your retard magnet really is something else

Tell me about it...
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 15:30:32
August 12 2014 15:20 GMT
#1427
wrong thread
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 12 2014 15:20 GMT
#1428
On August 12 2014 23:55 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 17:39 Alaric wrote:
On August 12 2014 12:49 sylverfyre wrote:
Top lane right now is secretly "Don't feed, get carried."

That's more or less my jungle style now. After the meta made Vi bad and I couldn't just go and try to get my lanes fed (plus anything that makes the game go late/stall/prevent burst makes Vi worse so the marksmen changes and IE nerfed her in a way), I just hope we pick Kog'Maw or Tristana, pick Nautilus and try to get as big and pseudo-immortal as I can so I can create distractions and cc everyone while my marksman kills everyone.

On August 12 2014 14:58 Navi wrote:

You're playing as Navitar in LoL right? I see you from time to time on pros' streams (usually dying though ).


yes i am the young feedarino

on a slightly related note does anybody else have pretty consistent 130ish and 300+ ping periods these days? I thought it might have coincided with someone's arrival to stay at my place, but they're not downloading or seeding anything- for the last 2 weeks or so i lag pretty consistently in game (usually fine at start and sometime after game starts start lagging with a few periods of relief)


Yeah, can confirm the ping is real on NA.

Consistently a solid 300, sometimes get spikes of like 800. As early as 3 months ago I never went above 60.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
August 12 2014 15:43 GMT
#1429
On August 12 2014 23:38 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:44 Numy wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:27 Gahlo wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:24 LaNague wrote:
lol


So Riot tells CLG that they can have accounts, but they meantTR accounts (misscomunication).
Then CLG complained, Riot made an "internal investigation", which revealed their error and they put in motion to give them the proper accounts, but in the meantime, since Riot has the metabolism of a Sloth, they can only give CLG TR accounts.
Then CLG compensates Riots error and sloppy work by lending accounts for 24 hours, which triggers a 5k fine and a 2 year ban.

Who knew breaking rules had consequences?


Except it doesn't. It only has consequences for a select few and for everyone else it doesn't matter.

Seraph uses Links account in NA, account gets banned with no consequences for Seraph. Lustboy uses Locodoco's account in NA, account doesn't get banned and no consequences for either party. Those are just 2 of the more recent cases.

Shockingly, different regions have different rules. Riot NA fined them $1250. Riot KR is the one that banned them for two years, because in Korea, that's the punishment for account sharing because SSNs are involved.

And CLG fans are treating this like Riot just disbanded the CLG team. You're banned for two years from a league you couldn't participate in anyway. Who gives a fuck?


People were saying that the last account sharing punishment in Korea was $2500 (individual fine) and 2 years ban. So, it almost sounds like Riot Korea put a big slap on them and Riot NA lessened the severity because they f'd up. Overall, they had to think there would be some punishment, but I doubt they thought it would be this severe. RIP OGN Dreams.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 12 2014 15:54 GMT
#1430
I just found out there is a girl streamer who was born without arms and plays league entirely with her feet. On a standard keyboard and mouse. I think she mains support, but plays a lot of Lee Sin. She is Gold 2.

Literally, a Serbian girl without arms, maining support, is infinitely better at league than me. I must be retarded.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 12 2014 16:06 GMT
#1431
On August 12 2014 21:44 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:27 Gahlo wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:24 LaNague wrote:
lol


So Riot tells CLG that they can have accounts, but they meantTR accounts (misscomunication).
Then CLG complained, Riot made an "internal investigation", which revealed their error and they put in motion to give them the proper accounts, but in the meantime, since Riot has the metabolism of a Sloth, they can only give CLG TR accounts.
Then CLG compensates Riots error and sloppy work by lending accounts for 24 hours, which triggers a 5k fine and a 2 year ban.

Who knew breaking rules had consequences?


Except it doesn't. It only has consequences for a select few and for everyone else it doesn't matter.

Seraph uses Links account in NA, account gets banned with no consequences for Seraph. Lustboy uses Locodoco's account in NA, account doesn't get banned and no consequences for either party. Those are just 2 of the more recent cases.

Was there any actual concrete proof that Lustboy was using that account?
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
August 12 2014 16:23 GMT
#1432
Well I just dumpstered as Lucian. Their team had Lissandra, Zed, and Fiddle to dive/fuck me. Should I have gotten QSS instead of Banshee's? Probably I should have, but too many actives...I realize how bad at ADC I am. Should also figure out what to not die better...
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 16:36:28
August 12 2014 16:36 GMT
#1433
On August 13 2014 01:23 nobodywonder wrote:
Well I just dumpstered as Lucian. Their team had Lissandra, Zed, and Fiddle to dive/fuck me. Should I have gotten QSS instead of Banshee's? Probably I should have, but too many actives...I realize how bad at ADC I am. Should also figure out what to not die better...

Yeah. At that point you need to hold QSS for Zed and hope your support buys a Mikaels to get you out of Frozen Tomb.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 16:45:22
August 12 2014 16:43 GMT
#1434
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=49238186#49238186
is it only me who thinks this shouldnt be bannable? this is is ridiculous people are such a oversensitive carebears nowadays
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 12 2014 16:47 GMT
#1435
On August 13 2014 01:43 kongoline wrote:
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=49238186#49238186
is it only me who thinks this shouldnt be bannable? this is is ridiculous people are such a oversensitive carebears nowadays

Seems to be on the very mild end tbh. Might warrant like a 10 game chat ban at most. Nowhere close to the worst I've seen.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 16:51:47
August 12 2014 16:51 GMT
#1436
Deserved ban. If I had someone like this guy in most of my games I would stop playing.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
August 12 2014 16:51 GMT
#1437
On August 13 2014 01:47 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2014 01:43 kongoline wrote:
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=49238186#49238186
is it only me who thinks this shouldnt be bannable? this is is ridiculous people are such a oversensitive carebears nowadays

Seems to be on the very mild end tbh. Might warrant like a 10 game chat ban at most. Nowhere close to the worst I've seen.


I agree. Honestly I would have chalked that up to just frustration like they said they understand happens. I saw nothing really ban worthy.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 12 2014 16:51 GMT
#1438
Banned for toxic, chatlogs are toxic. Seems appropriate to me.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 12 2014 16:53 GMT
#1439
Ban seems worthy to me.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 12 2014 16:57 GMT
#1440
On August 12 2014 23:38 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 21:44 Numy wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:27 Gahlo wrote:
On August 12 2014 21:24 LaNague wrote:
lol


So Riot tells CLG that they can have accounts, but they meantTR accounts (misscomunication).
Then CLG complained, Riot made an "internal investigation", which revealed their error and they put in motion to give them the proper accounts, but in the meantime, since Riot has the metabolism of a Sloth, they can only give CLG TR accounts.
Then CLG compensates Riots error and sloppy work by lending accounts for 24 hours, which triggers a 5k fine and a 2 year ban.

Who knew breaking rules had consequences?


Except it doesn't. It only has consequences for a select few and for everyone else it doesn't matter.

Seraph uses Links account in NA, account gets banned with no consequences for Seraph. Lustboy uses Locodoco's account in NA, account doesn't get banned and no consequences for either party. Those are just 2 of the more recent cases.

Shockingly, different regions have different rules. Riot NA fined them $1250. Riot KR is the one that banned them for two years, because in Korea, that's the punishment for account sharing because SSNs are involved.

And CLG fans are treating this like Riot just disbanded the CLG team. You're banned for two years from a league you couldn't participate in anyway. Who gives a fuck?

Cuz they way the report reads, despite Riot's efforts, it certainly seems like Riot was playing dirty.

On the day prior to their departure, CLG management requested live accounts from Riot.

Implies that CLG management hadn't been requesting live accounts previous to that and implies that CLG hadn't already been promised live accounts. They probably were.

Recognizing our error and CLG’s urgent practice needs in Korea, we provided CLG with provisional TR accounts within 24 hours of their landing as a temporary measure for practicing while the error was corrected.

So the request was made 24 hours prior to the flight, then there were ~12 hours travel, and they were provided within 24 hours of landing... It took 60 hours for Riot to provide the wrong accounts.

During this time, it was brought to our attention that members of CLG were engaging in illicit account sharing despite having a legitimate practice option pending in the provisional TR accounts while also being aware that such an action was against the rules.

So CLG had been requesting live accounts for who knows how long. They'd been in Korea for up to 24 hours sitting on their asses. They preferred live accounts the whole time, so presumably their practice options with TR accounts aren't as good. I'd assume they'd want to play a few solo queue games after landing before going straight into scrimming. They probably figured they can scrim with the TR accounts that are coming soon (they didn't know they'd be within 24 hours) but in the meantime they'd get their feet under them with some solo queue games and maybe not waste their trip if the TR accounts never come.

After the correct policy was ascertained, Riot granted CLG official live accounts and retracted the TR accounts in accordance with standing Riot policy.

At the very latest, CLG requested those accounts a day before their flight, so we're back to 60+ hours here (TR accounts within 60 hours, TR accounts retracted and replaced with live accounts after that). There's no explanation from Riot why determining policy and providing accounts is taking them so long. Even under their bullshit condensed timeline, as if they didn't know CLG needed accounts for their trip to Korea until 24 hours before their flight, they still acted unreasonably slowly.

Given that Riot's shitty report allows for me to fill the gaps however I want, my report says "We left them out to dry in Korea. They decided to break the rules to get some practice so they can perform better in our league, etc, which provided us a legal justification for punishing them, since we're mad about them skipping superweek, and then we gave them the accounts they needed."
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