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On February 07 2013 21:14 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol Doublelift and the whole CLG.NA team is like way too expensive, in comparaison to all the EU teams (genja 20 gold, dblift 28).
I actually think Dblift is priced well, considering he's pretty much the best ad of EU+NA combined. Only one who gave him troubles in games was Rekkles (?) afaik. Dblift is on Wx tier, and Genja hasn't been looking that great other than the shit they pulled off at IEM.
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Doublelift is playing in NA though. He will put up big numbers almost every game.
But yeah, my team is a mix of Fnatic and M5, the two best "Non-Asian" teams, easy choice. I'd still like to have 2xlift
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On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol
Idk I would put aphromoo as a top tier support simply because his game knowledge of bot lane is so fucking good. Him and Dlift are going to be a nightmare.
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On February 07 2013 21:19 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 21:14 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol Doublelift and the whole CLG.NA team is like way too expensive, in comparaison to all the EU teams (genja 20 gold, dblift 28). I actually think Dblift is priced well, considering he's pretty much the best ad of EU+NA combined. Only one who gave him troubles in games was Rekkles (?) afaik. Dblift is on Wx tier, and Genja hasn't been looking that great other than the shit they pulled off at IEM.
DBlift is just the best NA carry, that's all. I see no proof of him being at international tier until I see clg winning anything big.
On the other side, Genja just carried GambitGaming winning 4 game back to back against the whole ex azubu now cj line up, and you're saying it's "the shit they pulled off at IEM".
When did CLG pulled off any shit ? I wonder.
Maybe he will get an awesome KDA as NA is quite weak, but he is not on par with Wx, please. The simple fact that nRated cost what 15 gold, and is one of the best eu support, while aphromoo is at 28 gold, while he proved nothing yet shows how CLG.na botlane is overrated.
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i got alex ich, diamondprox, nrated, soaz and chaox. get on my level bros
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On February 07 2013 21:24 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 21:19 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 07 2013 21:14 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol Doublelift and the whole CLG.NA team is like way too expensive, in comparaison to all the EU teams (genja 20 gold, dblift 28). I actually think Dblift is priced well, considering he's pretty much the best ad of EU+NA combined. Only one who gave him troubles in games was Rekkles (?) afaik. Dblift is on Wx tier, and Genja hasn't been looking that great other than the shit they pulled off at IEM. DBlift is just the best NA carry, that's all. I see no proof of him being at international tier until I see clg winning anything big. On the other side, Genja just carried GambitGaming winning 4 game back to back against the whole ex azubu now cjg line up, and you're saying it's "the shit they pulled off at IEM". When did CLG pulled off any shit ? I wonder. Maybe he will get an awesome KDA as NA is quite weak, but he is not on par with Wx, please. The simple fact that nRated cost what 15 gold, and is one of the best eu support, while aphromoo is at 28 gold, while he proved nothing yet shows how CLG.na botlane is overrated.
Well Alex, Darien, Diamond and Gosu are imo way better than their CLG counterparts. Doublelift has consistently performed well, way above his teammates, for a really long time, where Genja has had a bit of a slump in his play before the IEM killing spree.
Aphromoo is massively overrated at 28 gold though. I'd say Dlift at 28 is justified, but Aphro support is like ~18/19 at best imo. Chauster is the only other one in CLG that I'd rate at 20+ gold for sure.
@nyx: That's a really sick lineup man 0o. I'd say Chaox is your weakest point, and that's pretty damn good.
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soaz diamond alex_ich genja nrated (not sure about ad. genja/yellowstar)
nrated and soaz extremly cheap.
alex ich at 22 when froggen is 28
also mancloud and link both more expensive than him
diamond most expesnive with 24 but worth it.
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on the other hand I just looked at how points are calculated.
if nrated plays something like leona, and while he might do good, he probably still gets only few points.
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On February 07 2013 21:24 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 21:19 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 07 2013 21:14 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol Doublelift and the whole CLG.NA team is like way too expensive, in comparaison to all the EU teams (genja 20 gold, dblift 28). I actually think Dblift is priced well, considering he's pretty much the best ad of EU+NA combined. Only one who gave him troubles in games was Rekkles (?) afaik. Dblift is on Wx tier, and Genja hasn't been looking that great other than the shit they pulled off at IEM. DBlift is just the best NA carry, that's all. I see no proof of him being at international tier until I see clg winning anything big. On the other side, Genja just carried GambitGaming winning 4 game back to back against the whole ex azubu now cjg line up, and you're saying it's "the shit they pulled off at IEM". When did CLG pulled off any shit ? I wonder. Maybe he will get an awesome KDA as NA is quite weak, but he is not on par with Wx, please. The simple fact that nRated cost what 15 gold, and is one of the best eu support, while aphromoo is at 28 gold, while he proved nothing yet shows how CLG.na botlane is overrated.
Yes, Gambit as a team is better overall, but that doesn't mean Genja is better. Doublelift is pretty much in the top 3 best ads in the world. He's been in Korea as well, wrecking faces, but then again, it's not easy to achieve anything major when there's a ImPrettyBad GG in your team.
(Chaox shittalks Doublelift all the time[State of the Game], but even he admits he's the best and that he respects him in a way, and would like to be better than him)
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I think it would be better if there was separate drafts for EU/NA LCS.
That's where the point difference comes from I think. Even though Alex is way better than Link and nRated better than Aphro, CLG is the #1 NA team. CLG can win all their games without Link/Aphro playing against their superior European colleagues.
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On February 07 2013 21:39 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 21:24 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:19 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 07 2013 21:14 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol Doublelift and the whole CLG.NA team is like way too expensive, in comparaison to all the EU teams (genja 20 gold, dblift 28). I actually think Dblift is priced well, considering he's pretty much the best ad of EU+NA combined. Only one who gave him troubles in games was Rekkles (?) afaik. Dblift is on Wx tier, and Genja hasn't been looking that great other than the shit they pulled off at IEM. DBlift is just the best NA carry, that's all. I see no proof of him being at international tier until I see clg winning anything big. On the other side, Genja just carried GambitGaming winning 4 game back to back against the whole ex azubu now cjg line up, and you're saying it's "the shit they pulled off at IEM". When did CLG pulled off any shit ? I wonder. Maybe he will get an awesome KDA as NA is quite weak, but he is not on par with Wx, please. The simple fact that nRated cost what 15 gold, and is one of the best eu support, while aphromoo is at 28 gold, while he proved nothing yet shows how CLG.na botlane is overrated. Yes, Gambit as a team is better overall, but that doesn't mean Genja is better. Doublelift is pretty much in the top 3 best ads on the world. He's been in Korea as well, wrecking faces, but then again, it's not easy to achieve anything major when there's a ImPrettyBad GG in your team. (Chaox shittalks Doublelift all the time[State of the Game], but even he admits he's the best and that he respects him in a way, and would like to be better than him)
But chaox is NA. The idea that dlift is godlike tier carry comes from penta / flashy moves and videos that exist because 1) he is famous and fans do those vids 2) his whole team is completly built around him.
People shittalk hotshotgg all the time, but when he was playing jungle, even if I completly hated his play style, all he did was playing for doublelift : tanky utility jungler, losing a lot of farm and levels just to kill all wards and apply pressure on lanes all the time, giving his body to the team in each team fights. Playing top, he is playing the same type of hero, splitpushing to no end, which means he is stalling the game and making it longer which permit dlift to get to that point where carries are godlike.
I'm not saying he is not as good as genja, or not as good as rekless, but I'm tired that he is the only NA/EU player (aside from EU mids such as xpeke, froggen or alexich) that is consider on equal ground with top Koreans or Asians players. Stop with the bias please, your doublelift don't destroy my genja. Their playstyle and their team are not built in the same way okay, but he is not strictly better. Genja build mid-game oriented, and way more tanky than Dlift will ever build (Dlift never build tank, but mobility, prefer qss over GA, etc.).
Yellowpete is the complete opposite of this. His kog'maw is great, when his team built its comp around it. He is actually quite an agressive player who like to make plays, but in Froggen's team, he doesn't have the place, nor the farm, to express himself as Dlift can in CLG.na. Is Dlift better ? Maybe, in my opinion they are just completly different.
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On February 07 2013 21:45 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 21:39 Volband wrote:On February 07 2013 21:24 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:19 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 07 2013 21:14 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol Doublelift and the whole CLG.NA team is like way too expensive, in comparaison to all the EU teams (genja 20 gold, dblift 28). I actually think Dblift is priced well, considering he's pretty much the best ad of EU+NA combined. Only one who gave him troubles in games was Rekkles (?) afaik. Dblift is on Wx tier, and Genja hasn't been looking that great other than the shit they pulled off at IEM. DBlift is just the best NA carry, that's all. I see no proof of him being at international tier until I see clg winning anything big. On the other side, Genja just carried GambitGaming winning 4 game back to back against the whole ex azubu now cjg line up, and you're saying it's "the shit they pulled off at IEM". When did CLG pulled off any shit ? I wonder. Maybe he will get an awesome KDA as NA is quite weak, but he is not on par with Wx, please. The simple fact that nRated cost what 15 gold, and is one of the best eu support, while aphromoo is at 28 gold, while he proved nothing yet shows how CLG.na botlane is overrated. Yes, Gambit as a team is better overall, but that doesn't mean Genja is better. Doublelift is pretty much in the top 3 best ads on the world. He's been in Korea as well, wrecking faces, but then again, it's not easy to achieve anything major when there's a ImPrettyBad GG in your team. (Chaox shittalks Doublelift all the time[State of the Game], but even he admits he's the best and that he respects him in a way, and would like to be better than him) But chaox is NA. The idea that dlift is godlike tier carry comes from penta / flashy moves and videos that exist because 1) he is famous and fans do those vids 2) his whole team is completly built around him. People shittalk hotshotgg all the time, but when he was playing jungle, even if I completly hated his play style, all he did was playing for doublelift : tanky utility jungler, losing a lot of farm and levels just to kill all wards and apply pressure on lanes all the time, giving his body to the team in each team fights. Playing top, he is playing the same type of hero, splitpushing to no end, which means he is stalling the game and making it longer which permit dlift to get to that point where carries are godlike. I'm not saying he is not as good as genja, or not as good as rekless, but I'm tired that he is the only NA/EU player (aside from EU mids such as xpeke, froggen or alexich) that is consider as equal as a top Korean or Asian player. Stop with the bias please, your doublelift don't destroy my genja. Their playstyle and their team are not built in the same way okay, but he is not strictly better.
Wat? EU players are consistently ranked higher as their NA counterparts. Doublelift is pretty much the only exception to the rule here. EU supports rank higher (Gosu, Krepo, nRated), EU jungles rank higher (Cyanide, Diamondprox), EU top lanes are a bit closer, but people would rank Soaz/Wickd/Darien above Voy/Dyrus/HSGG. Mids are not even close. As far as adc goes I'd say the ranking is Dlift and then Genja, Yellowpete followed by qtpie and a few other EU players.
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On February 07 2013 21:54 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 21:45 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:39 Volband wrote:On February 07 2013 21:24 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:19 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 07 2013 21:14 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol Doublelift and the whole CLG.NA team is like way too expensive, in comparaison to all the EU teams (genja 20 gold, dblift 28). I actually think Dblift is priced well, considering he's pretty much the best ad of EU+NA combined. Only one who gave him troubles in games was Rekkles (?) afaik. Dblift is on Wx tier, and Genja hasn't been looking that great other than the shit they pulled off at IEM. DBlift is just the best NA carry, that's all. I see no proof of him being at international tier until I see clg winning anything big. On the other side, Genja just carried GambitGaming winning 4 game back to back against the whole ex azubu now cjg line up, and you're saying it's "the shit they pulled off at IEM". When did CLG pulled off any shit ? I wonder. Maybe he will get an awesome KDA as NA is quite weak, but he is not on par with Wx, please. The simple fact that nRated cost what 15 gold, and is one of the best eu support, while aphromoo is at 28 gold, while he proved nothing yet shows how CLG.na botlane is overrated. Yes, Gambit as a team is better overall, but that doesn't mean Genja is better. Doublelift is pretty much in the top 3 best ads on the world. He's been in Korea as well, wrecking faces, but then again, it's not easy to achieve anything major when there's a ImPrettyBad GG in your team. (Chaox shittalks Doublelift all the time[State of the Game], but even he admits he's the best and that he respects him in a way, and would like to be better than him) But chaox is NA. The idea that dlift is godlike tier carry comes from penta / flashy moves and videos that exist because 1) he is famous and fans do those vids 2) his whole team is completly built around him. People shittalk hotshotgg all the time, but when he was playing jungle, even if I completly hated his play style, all he did was playing for doublelift : tanky utility jungler, losing a lot of farm and levels just to kill all wards and apply pressure on lanes all the time, giving his body to the team in each team fights. Playing top, he is playing the same type of hero, splitpushing to no end, which means he is stalling the game and making it longer which permit dlift to get to that point where carries are godlike. I'm not saying he is not as good as genja, or not as good as rekless, but I'm tired that he is the only NA/EU player (aside from EU mids such as xpeke, froggen or alexich) that is consider as equal as a top Korean or Asian player. Stop with the bias please, your doublelift don't destroy my genja. Their playstyle and their team are not built in the same way okay, but he is not strictly better. Wat? EU players are consistently ranked higher as their NA counterparts. Doublelift is pretty much the only exception to the rule here. EU supports rank higher (Gosu, Krepo, nRated), EU jungles rank higher (Cyanide, Diamondprox), EU top lanes are a bit closer, but people would rank Soaz/Wickd/Darien above Voy/Dyrus/HSGG. Mids are not even close. As far as adc goes I'd say the ranking is Dlift and then Genja, Yellowpete followed by qtpie and a few other EU players.
I'm saying in comparaison to Asian players. Nobody consider Edward, Krepo or nRated on par with Madlife or Lustboy. Nobody consider soAz, darien or wickd on par with Shy or Maknoon. Only Dlift. Please.
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On February 07 2013 21:58 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 21:54 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 07 2013 21:45 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:39 Volband wrote:On February 07 2013 21:24 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:19 Doctorbeat wrote:On February 07 2013 21:14 WhiteDog wrote:On February 07 2013 21:07 AsnSensation wrote:
well the whole support section is kinda weird, muffinqt and aphro most expensive? popularity much?
can't say no to a 15 N#rated while aphro is 28 lol Doublelift and the whole CLG.NA team is like way too expensive, in comparaison to all the EU teams (genja 20 gold, dblift 28). I actually think Dblift is priced well, considering he's pretty much the best ad of EU+NA combined. Only one who gave him troubles in games was Rekkles (?) afaik. Dblift is on Wx tier, and Genja hasn't been looking that great other than the shit they pulled off at IEM. DBlift is just the best NA carry, that's all. I see no proof of him being at international tier until I see clg winning anything big. On the other side, Genja just carried GambitGaming winning 4 game back to back against the whole ex azubu now cjg line up, and you're saying it's "the shit they pulled off at IEM". When did CLG pulled off any shit ? I wonder. Maybe he will get an awesome KDA as NA is quite weak, but he is not on par with Wx, please. The simple fact that nRated cost what 15 gold, and is one of the best eu support, while aphromoo is at 28 gold, while he proved nothing yet shows how CLG.na botlane is overrated. Yes, Gambit as a team is better overall, but that doesn't mean Genja is better. Doublelift is pretty much in the top 3 best ads on the world. He's been in Korea as well, wrecking faces, but then again, it's not easy to achieve anything major when there's a ImPrettyBad GG in your team. (Chaox shittalks Doublelift all the time[State of the Game], but even he admits he's the best and that he respects him in a way, and would like to be better than him) But chaox is NA. The idea that dlift is godlike tier carry comes from penta / flashy moves and videos that exist because 1) he is famous and fans do those vids 2) his whole team is completly built around him. People shittalk hotshotgg all the time, but when he was playing jungle, even if I completly hated his play style, all he did was playing for doublelift : tanky utility jungler, losing a lot of farm and levels just to kill all wards and apply pressure on lanes all the time, giving his body to the team in each team fights. Playing top, he is playing the same type of hero, splitpushing to no end, which means he is stalling the game and making it longer which permit dlift to get to that point where carries are godlike. I'm not saying he is not as good as genja, or not as good as rekless, but I'm tired that he is the only NA/EU player (aside from EU mids such as xpeke, froggen or alexich) that is consider as equal as a top Korean or Asian player. Stop with the bias please, your doublelift don't destroy my genja. Their playstyle and their team are not built in the same way okay, but he is not strictly better. Wat? EU players are consistently ranked higher as their NA counterparts. Doublelift is pretty much the only exception to the rule here. EU supports rank higher (Gosu, Krepo, nRated), EU jungles rank higher (Cyanide, Diamondprox), EU top lanes are a bit closer, but people would rank Soaz/Wickd/Darien above Voy/Dyrus/HSGG. Mids are not even close. As far as adc goes I'd say the ranking is Dlift and then Genja, Yellowpete followed by qtpie and a few other EU players. I'm saying in comparaison to Asian players. Nobody consider Edward, Krepo or nRated on par with Madlife or Lustboy. Nobody consider soAz, darien or wickd on par with Shy or Maknoon. Only Dlift. Please.
SoAz and xPeke have been considered on par with Asians (especially after their performances at IPL5/IEM Cologne), as have Froggen, Diamondprox and Alex. EU supports are ranked lower than Asian tier, because Madlife.
And after IEM Katowice Gambit shot up in popularity again, even though they did underperform for a while after their domination in mid 2012.
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nrated and s0az are both steals
I have 2 teams. One is Doublelift centric, the other is Froggen centric.
TL:
DOUBLE - team relies on him doing well
NRATED - cheap and good
SOAZ - cheap and good
JACKY - Curse will definitely do well. He's probaly also the best mid in NA, I expect him to do well.
DIAMOND - best jungler in the west, GG is strong.
other team:
FROGGEN - Always had ridiculous scores even when losing, team relies on that
NRATED - steal
SOAZ - steal
GENJA - cheap and GG are good so I expect him to do reasonably well + supported by gosu the best support
SAINT - 3x worse than Diamond but Curse is good enough to the point where his 20 gold is decently cost effective
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Cop, nRated, sOAZ, Alex Ich, Diamondprox
Nyx team is bad cos first week CLG vs TSM and chaox gonna be worth 0 pts GGGG.
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Doublelift
nrated
soaz
nyjacky
diamondprox.
Y'all be damned if im not winning this. Oh damn, its the same as some guy above me q.q
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On February 07 2013 19:33 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 18:44 cascades wrote:
There is a plat and gold and bronze and etc Taric's Enforcers. The one most Tlers are in is the gold Taric's Enforcers.
The funny thing is that like all the peeps in Taric Enforcers like TwoDown and soniv removed me from their flist when I took a long break from the game (the scumbags!), yet I still somehow got placed there. :< I don't remove anyone from my FL like ever. So not sure how u woulda got lost off mine. Specially since Im just comin back after like 9 months also.
I, too, rarely remove people from friends list, and I wouldn't have removed you cascades.
Although I'm hoping to not be in Taric's Enforcers much longer. 1-0 in promotion series. Would be playing right now, but apparently y school thought Internet should be optional to provide this morning.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Thanks. I typed in the password and it said I had it wrong. I typed in "part=51" Am I just being dumb or is something wrong?
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
I have toplane homeguard rush rammus with teleport deciding whether I get promoted or not.
Let's do dis
against DiamondProx and Hulberto. hurray
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Nooooooooo Soniv don't go, I missed you sooooooooooooo........
Yay, I led us back into fantasy discussion. #makingplays
Though teams are looking remarkedly similar. Hopefully nrated, soaz gets a price increase.. But to be honest I rather we have a different formula. The current one seems remarkedly uninspired. TL plx.
PW is
part=51
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