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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
May 30 2012 19:47 GMT
#1281
M5 with Darien as Darius vs MYM
http://www.twitch.tv/kaostv
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
May 30 2012 19:47 GMT
#1282
M5 picking Darius vs MYM lol. Time to prove OPness.
Whaaaa?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13844 Posts
May 30 2012 19:49 GMT
#1283
oh god don't make his ult physical. Imagine your in the middle of a trade and he ults you and gets 300 life back instantly while you're bleeding out all over the place.

I think his laneing would be under control if his passive doesn't proc on his abilities and only his auto attacks (I guess w would count on this). his armor pen % can get out of control but its pretty on par with xerath I guess. (where did that guy go I thought he was still crazy good)
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 30 2012 19:50 GMT
#1284
On May 31 2012 04:49 Sermokala wrote:
oh god don't make his ult physical. Imagine your in the middle of a trade and he ults you and gets 300 life back instantly while you're bleeding out all over the place.

I think his laneing would be under control if his passive doesn't proc on his abilities and only his auto attacks (I guess w would count on this). his armor pen % can get out of control but its pretty on par with xerath I guess. (where did that guy go I thought he was still crazy good)


spells don't proc lifesteal........spells only proc spellvamp, which darius doesn't build.....
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 30 2012 19:51 GMT
#1285
On May 31 2012 04:49 Sermokala wrote:
oh god don't make his ult physical. Imagine your in the middle of a trade and he ults you and gets 300 life back instantly while you're bleeding out all over the place.

I think his laneing would be under control if his passive doesn't proc on his abilities and only his auto attacks (I guess w would count on this). his armor pen % can get out of control but its pretty on par with xerath I guess. (where did that guy go I thought he was still crazy good)

He wouldn't get health back, lifesteal does not effect abilities. Whether it's true, magic, or physical, he would only heal off of it with spellvamp.
It's your boy Guzma!
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
May 30 2012 19:52 GMT
#1286
game starting with darien on darius in M5 vs MYM in some tournament

http://www.own3d.tv/kaostv/live/36643
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 19:59:24
May 30 2012 19:57 GMT
#1287
Dat facecheck.

Edit:
Darius is a good pick here, actually. Irelia is a sustained damage champ, so if he can burst her before she can retaliate, he can get ahead. Of course, that opens him up to her stun, so it'll be interesting. I'm not sure how this matchup goes, haven't seen it enough.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
May 30 2012 19:58 GMT
#1288
See this is what I love about LoL. When you have a set 5-man team it's so much easier to engage with that team as an audience. Especially when there isn't a total Asian dominance.

Just look at the "Send CLG.eu to dreamhack" donations going on right now.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
May 30 2012 20:04 GMT
#1289
Hue hue hue I found Akilord

Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 30 2012 20:06 GMT
#1290
These casters are pretty good.
It's your boy Guzma!
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
May 30 2012 20:10 GMT
#1291
Damn that Dragon steal.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13844 Posts
May 30 2012 20:11 GMT
#1292
makes sense. don't know where I got that abilities proc lifesteal.

Also darius's ult refresh's when hes involved with a kill in a second instead of just being for the kill. darius is owning face hard in the game very very close but I think darius will do a hell of a lot of damage in the late game.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 30 2012 20:20 GMT
#1293
On May 31 2012 04:36 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 04:32 iCanada wrote:
On May 31 2012 04:27 TheKefka wrote:
On May 31 2012 04:24 iCanada wrote:
On May 31 2012 04:19 TheKefka wrote:
On May 31 2012 04:17 iCanada wrote:
On May 31 2012 04:13 Requizen wrote:
On May 31 2012 04:09 iCanada wrote:
On May 31 2012 03:59 TheKefka wrote:
As soon as they nerf Dairus he's going to fall in the same category as Xin tho.People cry a lot about him right now but lets call it what it is,he isn't the best champion out there.He only has
.
As soon as he falls behind against a hero that has reasonable sustain he gets wrecked.Not to mention that he is free food for junglers and n1 camping material in top lane.Snowball champs are retarded when they snowball and it feel's unfair when they do,but they are very hit and miss against people that know what they are doing.I agree that his ult is over the top right now and they will probably nerf it,but when they do he's going to be trash probably.
I still think that pre akali/gunblade nerf she was worse than this dude.


He may be "trash" or whatever, but it doesn't really take much to see that Darius is basically Garen on steroids.

As it currently stands what reason is there to play Garen when you could play Darius? Darius stronger early game, has more CC, scales significantly better, his ult does more damage, AND his ult also refreshes. And maybe Garen is trash, but that doesn't mean it is okay to take his kit and just make everything better and put it on a new champ.

I think it is stupid to say that he is balanced because a jungler can gank him... How come half of the champions in the game aren't balanced on a jungler ganking them and giving their lane opponent an advantage? Fact is he snowballs stupidly hard AND he is stupidly strong early game. Its a silly combination.

His lack of CC, mobility and sustain means it's much easier for a jungle to camp him and force him out. If you camp someone like, say, Lee Sin, he'll just dash around, heal himself, and shield the damage then kick you away. He's incredibly hard to gank. Nasus is hard to gank because he's rarely below full health thanks to his passive and will just Wither one of you, then ult to become super hard to kill. Irelia can't really be CC'd and has massive sustain with her Ult, and will stun someone if you get her low.

If you gank Darius, what can he do? Using any sort of CC (hard or soft, even) on him decreases his effectiveness tremendously, all he can do is try to blitz both of you down or manually run back to tower while you chase.


So you're telling me half the top laners in the game are useless because you can gank them easily and they have no good gap closers? Huh.

Tell me a single decent top laner that is considered good and has no form of escape apart from flash.

There are several.

Off the top of my head Warwick, Urgot, Pantheon, Teemo, Yorick, Rumble...

I said what makes yorick be able to escape above,rumble has W a slow on E and a ult,Temmo has a move speed boost,panth can W people coming from behind,urgoth isn't the most popular top but he is ranged at least.WW has his massive lifesteal with Q,but after the nerfs he isn't even used that much anymore.
These champions all have mechanics that can help them survive and escape a gank,darius has none.


If Rumbles W/E count then so does Darius' W. It has a personal movement speed buff and a slow... and its CD like 3 seconds.

You're being very... biased imo. Tons of champs are just as easy to gank as Darius.

It's a slow that has to be applied with auto attacks, and only has that short CD if he has stacks of his passive up. Rumble and Yorick both apply theirs from a range without having to worry about running up to the people chasing them. They can also slow both the laner and jungler, since Rumble can use his twice and his ult is AoE, and Yorick's is AoE.

No one is saying Darius is a bad champion, but trying to convince us that he's able to escape ganks like other top laners is just silly.


I never said that, I said that several other top laners get boned just as hard by ganks.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
May 30 2012 20:26 GMT
#1294


Riot games invitational promo

looks sick
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 30 2012 20:27 GMT
#1295
On May 31 2012 03:53 gtrsrs wrote:
the hook is the worst part about darius
it's the most annoying part of nautilus and blitz, and they don't even have kill potential. put it on someone with MASSIVE kill potential and it's just a major gaffe imo


You do know a level 9 Naut with wit's end and maxed W will kill a squishy (AD/AP carry typically) in only 5-6 enhanced hits if he can hit his spells, right?
Sometimes you come to gank mid and initiate since your laner is hurt and under his tower, and suddenly you've solo'd his opponent without giving him the time to grab an assist.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 30 2012 20:36 GMT
#1296
LOL i love the closed captioning on the european guy obviously speaking english XD riot you so troll
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13844 Posts
May 30 2012 20:37 GMT
#1297
I just saw that invitational promo. I don't understand where the content came from you can see all the players and the crowd already so does that mean that it already happened and they're just gona restream the event tomarrow? They got a sick lineup the mix of na eu and asian teams is really cool. Although I think it'd be cool if they did a china-na-eu-rest of asia all star invitational instead of seeing some poor riot desk jockeys thrown to some of the best players in the world.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
May 30 2012 20:37 GMT
#1298
On May 31 2012 05:37 Sermokala wrote:
I just saw that invitational promo. I don't understand where the content came from you can see all the players and the crowd already so does that mean that it already happened and they're just gona restream the event tomarrow? They got a sick lineup the mix of na eu and asian teams is really cool. Although I think it'd be cool if they did a china-na-eu-rest of asia all star invitational instead of seeing some poor riot desk jockeys thrown to some of the best players in the world.



It looks like it was pre-recorded
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 20:40:17
May 30 2012 20:40 GMT
#1299
On May 31 2012 05:37 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 05:37 Sermokala wrote:
I just saw that invitational promo. I don't understand where the content came from you can see all the players and the crowd already so does that mean that it already happened and they're just gona restream the event tomarrow? They got a sick lineup the mix of na eu and asian teams is really cool. Although I think it'd be cool if they did a china-na-eu-rest of asia all star invitational instead of seeing some poor riot desk jockeys thrown to some of the best players in the world.



It looks like it was pre-recorded

Wasn't Snoopeh in Las Vegas not too long ago? Would explain it.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
May 30 2012 21:11 GMT
#1300
On May 31 2012 05:37 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 05:37 Sermokala wrote:
I just saw that invitational promo. I don't understand where the content came from you can see all the players and the crowd already so does that mean that it already happened and they're just gona restream the event tomarrow? They got a sick lineup the mix of na eu and asian teams is really cool. Although I think it'd be cool if they did a china-na-eu-rest of asia all star invitational instead of seeing some poor riot desk jockeys thrown to some of the best players in the world.



It looks like it was pre-recorded

It is, I was wondering why Snoopeh and Maknoon was in Vegas with riot, and I guess this is the answer
washed
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