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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 25 2012 09:26 GMT
#481
new storm team being made "progenics storm"
may include some team OP member/s

idk man im using google translate
cool beans
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
May 25 2012 09:39 GMT
#482
Guys, I'm lost in this jungle of LoL teams and who is what team and how they are related.

Is there an updated list/wiki where I can read up on what pro teams are out there, their players and how they are related? (CLG.EU vs. CLG.NA, TSM has two teams?)
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
May 25 2012 09:48 GMT
#483
On May 25 2012 18:23 wussleeQ wrote:
Played a fairly troll game with darius. Came up with a build of shurelias, randuins, BT, GA and wanted to get IE for last item. 2.8k hp fairly tanky and a lot of damage lol. Tbh, seems like a strong build on him.


Wingsofdeathx actually builds shurelya's on darius since as he reasoned, it makes up for darius's inherent lack of a gap closer or in other circumstances, an escape.

I would avoid getting an IE on Darius since the vast majority of his damage doesn't come from autoattacks. He's a AD caster far more than a AD autoattacker. A Maw seems like a better choice since the build lacks MR apart from mercs and GA, neither of which give a particularly large amount of MR later in the game.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
May 25 2012 09:52 GMT
#484
On May 25 2012 18:39 Cuddle wrote:
Guys, I'm lost in this jungle of LoL teams and who is what team and how they are related.

Is there an updated list/wiki where I can read up on what pro teams are out there, their players and how they are related? (CLG.EU vs. CLG.NA, TSM has two teams?)

CLG has two NA teams - the original one (CLG.Prime) and CLG.Black, a team they just picked up. CLG.EU (now CLG.Optimus) is a team that originally played under the name AL (AbsoluteLegends), but got picked up by CLG.

TSM has their original team (not sure about names) and they just picked up the remainders of team EG (Epik Gamer) and v8.

Other than that, it's just ''normal'' teams as far as I'm aware. MiG has two teams, Blaze and Ice I think, but I'm not sure how much you are into the Korean scene.

Also, there's a sticky in this forum you should probably read if you're interested in that sort of stuff. It's called Pro Scene Evolution I think and NeoIllusions updates it very frequently.
currently rooting for myself.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
May 25 2012 09:58 GMT
#485
I'm having a lot of success with boots+3 opening on Darius into
3x dorans blade -> merc -> BT -> Warmogs or just giants belt -> BT/GA/moreBT
I've tried getting the 1st BT later but he loses his instagibbing capability too fast. The 3 dorans gives a decent hp buffer and really solid lane control. The warmogs is better than GA early imo since you really need to be in the fray for a few seconds to make your damage relevant. I know armor/MR is better for ehp but you don't have time for multiple defense items and flat hp gives you all around defense vs everything. Aegis is another possibility. If I get GA, I find I just get bursted down since the MR it gives is somewhat meager. GA later if you're getting focused but otherwise, BT seems to be the best option.

I count out brutalizer since late game, the arpen becomes useless, more so than other champs thanks to your E. 3xdorans gives me enough lane control and burst that I don't feel like I need to invest so much gold into more early damage. Also, the cdr only really benefits 2 out of your 4 spells so I feel like I'm wasting gold there. Boots opening is a must since you don't have any way of escaping ganks or a reliable zoning mechanism (Q range is deceptively short and E has a really long cd). Furthermore, crit and attack speed I feel is wasted on him since most of your damage is qwr+passive anyway. So that counts out IE/PD/Ghostblade/Trinity/BC/atmas. LW is unnecessary for obvious reasons. That pretty much leaves BT stacking for damage. Hex/MoM is also solid but I don't like getting it early, I find that 3 dorans+giants belt is enough to stop me from getting 1 shot by some ap caster.

21/9/0 flat dmg reds/quints, armor yellows, and mp5 blues/MR blues. Flat damage over arpen because your passive is magic and your ult is true damage, both of which scale off flat dmg. Flash ignite is a must since flash pull is a fantastic finisher and ignite is required to threaten the enemy at lvl 6 with your combo (a la Garen).
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
May 25 2012 10:01 GMT
#486
On May 25 2012 18:39 Cuddle wrote:
Guys, I'm lost in this jungle of LoL teams and who is what team and how they are related.

Is there an updated list/wiki where I can read up on what pro teams are out there, their players and how they are related? (CLG.EU vs. CLG.NA, TSM has two teams?)



Team - Jungler
Clg.eu - Snoopeh
Clg.na - HotshotGG
TSM - TheOddOne
TSM.evo - Unstoppablex
hi
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
May 25 2012 11:12 GMT
#487
On May 25 2012 18:48 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 18:23 wussleeQ wrote:
Played a fairly troll game with darius. Came up with a build of shurelias, randuins, BT, GA and wanted to get IE for last item. 2.8k hp fairly tanky and a lot of damage lol. Tbh, seems like a strong build on him.


Wingsofdeathx actually builds shurelya's on darius since as he reasoned, it makes up for darius's inherent lack of a gap closer or in other circumstances, an escape.

I would avoid getting an IE on Darius since the vast majority of his damage doesn't come from autoattacks. He's a AD caster far more than a AD autoattacker. A Maw seems like a better choice since the build lacks MR apart from mercs and GA, neither of which give a particularly large amount of MR later in the game.

Ahh. Dang thought I was pretty smart by coming up with shurelia's on him. But maw seems like a really good choice now that i think about it lol. Thanks for the tip.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 25 2012 11:13 GMT
#488
On May 25 2012 18:39 Cuddle wrote:
Guys, I'm lost in this jungle of LoL teams and who is what team and how they are related.

Is there an updated list/wiki where I can read up on what pro teams are out there, their players and how they are related? (CLG.EU vs. CLG.NA, TSM has two teams?)

http://leaguepedia.absolutelegends.net
Look up the teams there, looks pretty up to date.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 11:44:19
May 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#489
nvm
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 25 2012 13:03 GMT
#490
On May 25 2012 16:22 ArC_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 16:03 Seuss wrote:
On May 25 2012 13:56 beefhamburger wrote:
On May 25 2012 13:19 iCanada wrote:
On May 25 2012 12:58 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Watching hotshot jungle in these IPL qualifiers shows that he jungles how he thinks people jungle. He doesn't actually know what he's doing. There is more to clearing the jungle and ganking than clearing the jungle and ganking. Also he keeps building those stupid dorans shields.


Can't say I'm surprised...

Voyboy is an incredible top laner, but honestly... You aint gonna find a jungler better than Saint. Saint sometimes does some dumb shit, but I've never seen him just get outclassed.

Hotshot gets outclassed by people trolling in soloqueue... I didn't even have to watch to know in a tournament setting it went poorly.

Hotshot didn't do too badly in the IPL games. He had some good ganks and farmed decently. He wandered around a few times not knowing what to do a few times, but wasn't like camping a lane for 2 minutes. None of the games they lost were really his fault, but rather CLG as a whole didn't pick/play well. Voyboy lost them game 3 miscalculating his first fight with Jax and then letting him snowball. Could HS have played better? Sure. But he wasn't nearly as lacking as his solo queue games imo. I think he really needs to build better/differently because he never really builds damage items outside of wriggles unless he is farming out everyone else's lane.


CLG was really restricted in their pick options because Hotshot knows all of two or three junglers. They didn't pick Shyvana every game because she was a good pick, but because she's all Hotshot can play.

Hotshot simply isn't anywhere near tournament level as a jungler. He may not be nearly as lacking as he was initially, but he's still significantly lacking.

Some of you guys are being too hard on HSGG. He's been focusing on jungling for ~2 weeks. You don't go from never jungling to tournament calibur in that short of time.


Goood for him>?

I dunno, it hard to be a CLG fanboy when they do things like kick one of the best junglers in the game because Hotshot wants to dick around in a new role.
goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 13:16:01
May 25 2012 13:15 GMT
#491
On May 25 2012 18:20 Alaric wrote:
I saw "team OP" written plainly at the end, what does it say? Loco recruited by them?


if i'm understanding this correctly, both locodoco and Nolja (from team OP, which is where that comes in) are going to xenics storm. that's fucking insane lol
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 25 2012 13:21 GMT
#492
Saw WingsOfDeath stream two times now and have to say that he's probably one of the nicest and most informative streamers out there, on par with Scarra. Whole TSM:Eco in general seems to be superawesome though. Looking forward to some of their tournament play.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
May 25 2012 13:58 GMT
#493
On May 25 2012 22:03 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 16:22 ArC_man wrote:
On May 25 2012 16:03 Seuss wrote:
On May 25 2012 13:56 beefhamburger wrote:
On May 25 2012 13:19 iCanada wrote:
On May 25 2012 12:58 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Watching hotshot jungle in these IPL qualifiers shows that he jungles how he thinks people jungle. He doesn't actually know what he's doing. There is more to clearing the jungle and ganking than clearing the jungle and ganking. Also he keeps building those stupid dorans shields.


Can't say I'm surprised...

Voyboy is an incredible top laner, but honestly... You aint gonna find a jungler better than Saint. Saint sometimes does some dumb shit, but I've never seen him just get outclassed.

Hotshot gets outclassed by people trolling in soloqueue... I didn't even have to watch to know in a tournament setting it went poorly.

Hotshot didn't do too badly in the IPL games. He had some good ganks and farmed decently. He wandered around a few times not knowing what to do a few times, but wasn't like camping a lane for 2 minutes. None of the games they lost were really his fault, but rather CLG as a whole didn't pick/play well. Voyboy lost them game 3 miscalculating his first fight with Jax and then letting him snowball. Could HS have played better? Sure. But he wasn't nearly as lacking as his solo queue games imo. I think he really needs to build better/differently because he never really builds damage items outside of wriggles unless he is farming out everyone else's lane.


CLG was really restricted in their pick options because Hotshot knows all of two or three junglers. They didn't pick Shyvana every game because she was a good pick, but because she's all Hotshot can play.

Hotshot simply isn't anywhere near tournament level as a jungler. He may not be nearly as lacking as he was initially, but he's still significantly lacking.

Some of you guys are being too hard on HSGG. He's been focusing on jungling for ~2 weeks. You don't go from never jungling to tournament calibur in that short of time.


Goood for him>?

I dunno, it hard to be a CLG fanboy when they do things like kick one of the best junglers in the game because Hotshot wants to dick around in a new role.


Best jungler or not, CLG needed some way to have unified decision making on their team and really suffered every time SV and HSGG would clash over calls.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 14:07:42
May 25 2012 14:06 GMT
#494
On May 25 2012 22:58 sylverfyre wrote:
Best jungler or not, CLG needed some way to have unified decision making on their team and really suffered every time SV and HSGG would clash over calls.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people here agree that the way of handling this with the highest likelihood of success would have been for Hotshot to bench himself to take up a managing position--but instead Hotshot's ego made him take a much more awkward solution (kick Saint, and jungle himself).
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
May 25 2012 14:08 GMT
#495
I think he will bench himself. Just give him some time.
hi
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 25 2012 14:13 GMT
#496
On May 25 2012 22:15 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 18:20 Alaric wrote:
I saw "team OP" written plainly at the end, what does it say? Loco recruited by them?


if i'm understanding this correctly, both locodoco and Nolja (from team OP, which is where that comes in) are going to xenics storm. that's fucking insane lol


That makes no sense, locodoco is heading MiG and is AD carry for MiG frost, why would he go to xenics storm which both MiG teams trashed in OGN?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 25 2012 14:14 GMT
#497
Frost also got destroyed by Blaze, and the players looked quite devastated from such a loss. It seemed to affect Loco a lot, I guess it could have to do with that? Well I'm not in his head of course...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 14:29:45
May 25 2012 14:27 GMT
#498
quick google got me this: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/53751-Locodoco_part_ways_with_MiG_Frost

cause the korean article didn't really give reasons as to why he left. this article kinda does.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 14:53:43
May 25 2012 14:47 GMT
#499
wtf do i do as irelia vs darius ?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 25 2012 14:52 GMT
#500
On May 25 2012 16:22 ArC_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 16:03 Seuss wrote:
On May 25 2012 13:56 beefhamburger wrote:
On May 25 2012 13:19 iCanada wrote:
On May 25 2012 12:58 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Watching hotshot jungle in these IPL qualifiers shows that he jungles how he thinks people jungle. He doesn't actually know what he's doing. There is more to clearing the jungle and ganking than clearing the jungle and ganking. Also he keeps building those stupid dorans shields.


Can't say I'm surprised...

Voyboy is an incredible top laner, but honestly... You aint gonna find a jungler better than Saint. Saint sometimes does some dumb shit, but I've never seen him just get outclassed.

Hotshot gets outclassed by people trolling in soloqueue... I didn't even have to watch to know in a tournament setting it went poorly.

Hotshot didn't do too badly in the IPL games. He had some good ganks and farmed decently. He wandered around a few times not knowing what to do a few times, but wasn't like camping a lane for 2 minutes. None of the games they lost were really his fault, but rather CLG as a whole didn't pick/play well. Voyboy lost them game 3 miscalculating his first fight with Jax and then letting him snowball. Could HS have played better? Sure. But he wasn't nearly as lacking as his solo queue games imo. I think he really needs to build better/differently because he never really builds damage items outside of wriggles unless he is farming out everyone else's lane.


CLG was really restricted in their pick options because Hotshot knows all of two or three junglers. They didn't pick Shyvana every game because she was a good pick, but because she's all Hotshot can play.

Hotshot simply isn't anywhere near tournament level as a jungler. He may not be nearly as lacking as he was initially, but he's still significantly lacking.

Some of you guys are being too hard on HSGG. He's been focusing on jungling for ~2 weeks. You don't go from never jungling to tournament calibur in that short of time.


As a spectator I don't care. When I'm watching tournament games I want to watch tournament caliber players. At the moment Hotshot isn't one.

As a player I don't care for Hotshot's attitude or approach. He didn't have the humility to look up guides or ask for advice when he started, and he apparently lacks the observational skills or simple interest in the wider game to have noticed what junglers build. His development as a jungler has been severely stunted as a result.

I am being harsh, but I'd be equally harsh if Tiger Woods switched to baseball. You don't get a free pass for being subpar just because you were famous for being excellent at something else.
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