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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 08 2012 12:35 GMT
#1801
On August 08 2012 21:33 Sufficiency wrote:
most boring game ever. Storm never had the slightest chance with their team comp.

They had a chance. But it was gone as soon as Shaco gave fb.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
August 08 2012 12:36 GMT
#1802
On August 08 2012 21:34 justiceknight wrote:
Storm just throws 2nd game imo

shaco did nothing
blitz missed lots of hooks
TF does nothing
Singed took down some towers but still....

only LB does the work...


Blitz hit a lot of hooks but morg shield OP!
Snitches get stiches
czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
August 08 2012 12:41 GMT
#1803
On August 08 2012 21:33 Sufficiency wrote:
most boring game ever. Storm never had the slightest chance with their team comp.


It was a comp designed to counter what Azubu does, which is take early towers + map control. Singed + TF split push, shaco for jungle control, and leblanc to win mid. Their one weakness is that all these champs suck lategame and so they had a hard time window to win.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 08 2012 12:44 GMT
#1804
On August 08 2012 21:41 czylu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:33 Sufficiency wrote:
most boring game ever. Storm never had the slightest chance with their team comp.


It was a comp designed to counter what Azubu does, which is take early towers + map control. Singed + TF split push, shaco for jungle control, and leblanc to win mid. Their one weakness is that all these champs suck lategame and so they had a hard time window to win.


I think they could have won but in both games they completely failed in team fights. In the first game they still won some of them but whenever it mattered in either game, one of them messed up and threw the fight.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21961 Posts
August 08 2012 12:45 GMT
#1805
On August 08 2012 21:41 czylu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:33 Sufficiency wrote:
most boring game ever. Storm never had the slightest chance with their team comp.


It was a comp designed to counter what Azubu does, which is take early towers + map control. Singed + TF split push, shaco for jungle control, and leblanc to win mid. Their one weakness is that all these champs suck lategame and so they had a hard time window to win.


The thing is that Azubus strategy is something done by the players not forced on them by there champions. They have a team that can work well lategame but is also able to push towers fast.

While Storm had a team that could win early but could never win late.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:47:00
August 08 2012 12:46 GMT
#1806
On August 08 2012 21:35 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:33 Sufficiency wrote:
most boring game ever. Storm never had the slightest chance with their team comp.

They had a chance. But it was gone as soon as Shaco gave fb.


Not really. You throw this team against a soloQ team and I honestly think soloQ will win.

The strategy is so flawed. When you do not have an AD carry (and bruiser in this case) you automatically lose the game by the 40th minute. They were counting the entire game on some sort of crazy Blitzcrank grab that somehow kills the Graves and then they somehow push so amazingly fast to victory. Sure, TF has a Lich Bane, but that's not enough to take down turrets fast by any measure.

So yea, I think they threw it hard.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:52:14
August 08 2012 12:47 GMT
#1807
Because Blaze had the superior level 1 through bind and charm, Blitzcrank shouldn't have done the boots+ward opening. Ward that brush and don't fucking leave Shaco to do blue that's obviously when the enemy will strike... Saw that shit coming right as impact bought boots+ward... useless vs morgana and useless level 1 because blaze had the better level 1. Unfortunately, missing a recall-channeling wukong doesn't give you points either.

Edit: I also think it's more appropriate to say Xenics left shaco to get first blooded (and impact's poor item choice). Not nolja's fault imo.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:55:55
August 08 2012 12:51 GMT
#1808
Woo, MVP Support! I loved the Morgana pick to counter out the blitz pick.

And lichbane TF can take out turrets quite fine, they weren't lacking in turret pressure, they were lacking in sustained damage for teamfights. Maybe their strategy was reliant on assassinating Jack every fight, so both teams had to fight without an AD carry? Even then, they had no physical damage apart from Shaco. (PAC turns your autoattack, including lichbane damage, to magic damage, so the only phys damage there is from the lichbane autoattack after wildcard.)

But yeah that bot lane was WAY too reliant on Grab + CC Combo from Blitz + Gold Card and Lostboy was able to just deny that from EVER happening. Though it was pretty funny/scary when leblanc just walked up and double killed them.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 08 2012 12:59 GMT
#1809
On August 08 2012 21:46 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:35 spinesheath wrote:
On August 08 2012 21:33 Sufficiency wrote:
most boring game ever. Storm never had the slightest chance with their team comp.

They had a chance. But it was gone as soon as Shaco gave fb.


Not really. You throw this team against a soloQ team and I honestly think soloQ will win.

The strategy is so flawed. When you do not have an AD carry (and bruiser in this case) you automatically lose the game by the 40th minute. They were counting the entire game on some sort of crazy Blitzcrank grab that somehow kills the Graves and then they somehow push so amazingly fast to victory. Sure, TF has a Lich Bane, but that's not enough to take down turrets fast by any measure.

So yea, I think they threw it hard.



I think the main idea in the strategy was having shaco and singed pushing top and bot simultaneous forcing azubu to send 2-3 players to deal with them and thus having LeBlanc and TF catching someone off guard, allowing for easy pick-ups and the ability to suddenly be at a greater advantage forcing the pushes much more drastic and then go for minor objectives such as blue/red/drake.
hi
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 08 2012 20:59 GMT
#1810
On August 08 2012 19:50 Cubu wrote:
why do they make these stupid risks? I don't see why they can't just go to their own lanes from the beginning.

If you don't do anything at level 1 ("Just go to their own lanes") and the other team does, they get to steal your jungle for free, or worse - find your jungler alone or without enough allies with them to fight.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 10 2012 09:24 GMT
#1811
LETS GO CLG.NA

Just saw that gamescom next week and clg.eu semifinals is colliding next week, was there any news how thats going to work out.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 09:57:56
August 10 2012 09:57 GMT
#1812
Yeah it's rescheduled, CLGeu will play on the 24th instead according to Yellowpete
Go go Alliance.
TenJin`Lucian
Profile Joined August 2011
Costa Rica158 Posts
August 10 2012 10:11 GMT
#1813
Anyone gonna do a korean restream today?
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 10 2012 10:24 GMT
#1814
LOL pregame talk between all the casters. I don't think they know their mics are on, pretty hilarious.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 10 2012 10:30 GMT
#1815
Restream link anyone?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 10 2012 10:31 GMT
#1816
Damn everytime i see those crowd shots I just BW nostalgia all over
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 10 2012 10:36 GMT
#1817
On August 10 2012 19:30 HazMat wrote:
Restream link anyone?


http://bambuser.com/v/2893357
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 10 2012 10:42 GMT
#1818
Which team will advance with two teams to the semifinals?! I hope it will be CLG!
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1819
frozen bird jiji incoming
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1820
Is this bo1? First semi I'm watching.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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