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Heroes of the Storm Landing Page - Page 2

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46425 Posts
November 09 2015 20:18 GMT
#21
Yay! I love all the HotS content you guys have been providing! Well done!
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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
November 09 2015 20:34 GMT
#22
On November 10 2015 02:48 [Phantom] wrote:
I want to share a little bit of insight about what we think of the landing page, why is it necessary and what does it mean for Liquid heroes going forward.

First of all, the heroes of the Storm staff has been putting a lot of effort creating articles and guides with a good amount of success, still we know we can do more than that.

It is pretty hard to grow a community by having just a forum, so we needed a space dedicated to Heroes of the Storm that would enable us to grow the community outside of TL existing user base, allowing us to grow.

Why not Liquidheroes.net? There are a lot of reasons for this, but one of the main ones is that it would just keep spreading thin the existing TL community with no guarantee that it would make it grow. We still wanted place to share our work and grow the community, as we all love heroes and want to give our best to help grow this game we like so much. And so the idea of having a landing page was propused. This would enable us to have a space within TL, maintaining the existing user base without bothering the sc2 fan base by taking their space, while also giving us a place to grow, and give the community something nicer than just a forum.

Going forward we are already planning on further improvements to the landing page by adding other sections like featured videos, liquidpedia and others. We are going to also be rampig up our coverage inside TL, as most of what we've done esports related has been going towarda heroesofthestorm/esports with out partnership with Blizzard.

The dissucussion and Guide thinga are buttons that take yy to the current general discussion thread and our staff guide compilation.

If you have feedback of how we can improve this please share it. We know there is still much to be done but we wanted to get this out to you as fast as we could so you had a better place to discuss the game.

And to Dekalinder you need to go to your right bar settings to enable your heroes of the Storm streams.

We also have a couple of other announcements to make in the very near future so look forward to that.


TL is already spread thin. With 6!! Separate domains that is a clear statement by the developers that community separation for the sake of organization is an important part of design.

Having heroes get a landing page instead of a domain will confuse new users. The most important part of web design is to ask what would the man from mars think of this website. The man who knows NOTHING about the community

The separation as opposed to sub forums is bad enough, but having an additional degree of separation complicates matters even more. Smash would presumably come next. Do they get a landing lage? Do we combine smash 4 and melee?

Go back to the days of the customizable front page and game specific subforums. The non TL sites are barren in comparison to TL itself.

And let me browse at 960px width without going to a tablet display.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 09 2015 21:40 GMT
#23
@Thaniri - I think the landing page is fine since it's still part of the main forums, however, until heroes in TL gets a lot bigger, they shouldn't have a separate sub domain. Hearth, LoL, Dota have a way bigger following that heroes that's for sure.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
November 09 2015 22:12 GMT
#24
On November 10 2015 06:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
@Thaniri - I think the landing page is fine since it's still part of the main forums, however, until heroes in TL gets a lot bigger, they shouldn't have a separate sub domain. Hearth, LoL, Dota have a way bigger following that heroes that's for sure.

I think that's a fair compromise, though I do think that the argument being made, given the size of the community justifies that all the subforums have their own landing page. Hell there are more blogs made than HotS content per week, but there is no blog landing page. That said I respect the initiative and wish the HotS crew the best of luck, and if this is what they need and have made, more power to them.
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4998 Posts
November 09 2015 22:47 GMT
#25
On November 10 2015 07:12 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 06:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
@Thaniri - I think the landing page is fine since it's still part of the main forums, however, until heroes in TL gets a lot bigger, they shouldn't have a separate sub domain. Hearth, LoL, Dota have a way bigger following that heroes that's for sure.

I think that's a fair compromise, though I do think that the argument being made, given the size of the community justifies that all the subforums have their own landing page. Hell there are more blogs made than HotS content per week, but there is no blog landing page. That said I respect the initiative and wish the HotS crew the best of luck, and if this is what they need and have made, more power to them.

Well you have to start somewhere. And one will be the first. It's not really realistic to do main pages for all the subcommunities at the same time, you would much rather start small and iron out any potential bugs before you do a huge rollout. Just my 2 cents
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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 22:55:38
November 09 2015 22:52 GMT
#26
You guys didnt understand my post. I think having several domains is also a bad idea, and becomes MORE bad if landing pages are used as well to perform the same function.

All sub domains, or all landing pages. Better yet go back to subforums. Consistency is KEY.

Edit: look at a world news site that separates news by continent/region. Each region has its own page sometimes a subdomain. The thing is theyre all the same. Africa might have less news posted than Europe but it still gets the same treatment.
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
November 09 2015 23:51 GMT
#27
On November 10 2015 01:14 FO-nTTaX wrote:
huh i thought this had died after i did this months ago :D

Nice work, comrade, looking forward to other similar implementations
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 02:08:03
November 10 2015 01:19 GMT
#28
On November 10 2015 04:06 FO-nTTaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 02:48 [Phantom] wrote:
liquidpedia

Phantom pls


Hehe I'm sorry.

One thing I forgot to say is that we'll be updating the Landing page with new stuff as much as possible, so make sure to bookmark it
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 02:07:43
November 10 2015 01:52 GMT
#29
Indubitably.
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 02:07:49
November 10 2015 02:03 GMT
#30
Indeed.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
November 10 2015 06:03 GMT
#31
There should be a link to the forums directly from the top of that page. My current process is to go to teamliquid and scroll down the long list of forums until I see the heroes part.

I mean, I don't want to have to bookmark both the forums AND this page. Make my bookmarks efficient.
Don't Panic
Vaalia
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada120 Posts
November 10 2015 06:09 GMT
#32
On November 10 2015 15:03 MotherFox wrote:
There should be a link to the forums directly from the top of that page. My current process is to go to teamliquid and scroll down the long list of forums until I see the heroes part.

I mean, I don't want to have to bookmark both the forums AND this page. Make my bookmarks efficient.


We're going to fix a few things ASAP- like adding a direct forum link- so that becomes a non-issue. Expect it to be fixed soon.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9556 Posts
November 10 2015 09:52 GMT
#33
On November 10 2015 15:09 Vaalia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 15:03 MotherFox wrote:
There should be a link to the forums directly from the top of that page. My current process is to go to teamliquid and scroll down the long list of forums until I see the heroes part.

I mean, I don't want to have to bookmark both the forums AND this page. Make my bookmarks efficient.


We're going to fix a few things ASAP- like adding a direct forum link- so that becomes a non-issue. Expect it to be fixed soon.

Why not just embed the whole Heroes forum below it? It should fill that empty space at the bottom nicely as well.
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Vaalia
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada120 Posts
November 10 2015 16:53 GMT
#34
On November 10 2015 18:52 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 15:09 Vaalia wrote:
On November 10 2015 15:03 MotherFox wrote:
There should be a link to the forums directly from the top of that page. My current process is to go to teamliquid and scroll down the long list of forums until I see the heroes part.

I mean, I don't want to have to bookmark both the forums AND this page. Make my bookmarks efficient.


We're going to fix a few things ASAP- like adding a direct forum link- so that becomes a non-issue. Expect it to be fixed soon.

Why not just embed the whole Heroes forum below it? It should fill that empty space at the bottom nicely as well.


Right now we have it nicely set up so the "discussion" button goes to forums and the "builds" button goes to our quick talent builds. We have a few more changes to hopefully implement in the future, but right now it just feels so good to have our landing page out!
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
November 10 2015 17:00 GMT
#35
On November 10 2015 18:52 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 15:09 Vaalia wrote:
On November 10 2015 15:03 MotherFox wrote:
There should be a link to the forums directly from the top of that page. My current process is to go to teamliquid and scroll down the long list of forums until I see the heroes part.

I mean, I don't want to have to bookmark both the forums AND this page. Make my bookmarks efficient.


We're going to fix a few things ASAP- like adding a direct forum link- so that becomes a non-issue. Expect it to be fixed soon.

Why not just embed the whole Heroes forum below it? It should fill that empty space at the bottom nicely as well.


In theory, that makes sense, but if we have the forum, why is there any need to have links to the top threads? ^^ I think the landing page is meant to mimic the Home screen of TL.net and highlight some of the bigger articles and topics while allowing you to access the forums on the left-hand side. At the moment, the landing page is a bit sparse, I agree, but we have more ideas and plans to improve it in the future.

Speaking of which, quick update on the Landing Page:

  • Discussion tab now links to the forum proper instead of just the most recent patch discussion. We decided this was a better tool since we were lacking a direct link to the forum.
  • Guides tab changed to "Builds" and now links to the Quick Talents Guide instead of our Heroes Guide collection. This made sense because it was right next to the weekly hero rotation, and we are less of a "guide" site anyway.
  • Some topic changes, including our newest article, Playing From Behind.


Uhhhhh....also what Vaalia said.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
DarthBotto
Profile Joined January 2011
United States72 Posts
November 11 2015 00:22 GMT
#36
While I couldn't care less about Heroes of the Storm, I still love Liquid, so I support you guys with your franchise expansion.
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