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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 23 2016 16:29 GMT
#1621
On July 24 2016 01:27 karazax wrote:
Hongcono is a beast.

on Muradin and Tyrael
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 23 2016 16:48 GMT
#1622
L5 got robbed
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 23 2016 16:52 GMT
#1623
Only one sided game of the series there.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 21:12:16
July 23 2016 21:07 GMT
#1624
Here is the start of the L5 vs Tempo Storm VOD not including the first game that had to be remade and the 2 hour delay while they fixed technical issues and L5 argued they should get a win rather than a redo. That partial game is in the VOD as well if you search earlier.

here is a collection of highlights posted by enzolh if you don't want to watch the whole series:
+ Show Spoiler +

  • Game1 Highlights
  • Game 2 Highlights
  • Game 3 Highlights
  • Game 4 highlights
  • Game 5 highlights
  • EPIC game 6 highlights
  • Game 7 highlights
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 01:08:11
July 24 2016 00:50 GMT
#1625
On July 24 2016 06:07 karazax wrote:
Here is the start of the L5 vs Tempo Storm VOD not including the first game that had to be remade and the 2 hour delay while they fixed technical issues and L5 argued they should get a win rather than a redo. That partial game is in the VOD as well if you search earlier.

here is a collection of highlights posted by enzolh if you don't want to watch the whole series:
+ Show Spoiler +

  • Game1 Highlights
  • Game 2 Highlights
  • Game 3 Highlights
  • Game 4 highlights
  • Game 5 highlights
  • EPIC game 6 highlights
  • Game 7 highlights


The games are good, but be warned that Wolf's co-caster is unbearable to listen to (for me). Not strictly his fault since I think it's a language issue but still. Stumbles over his words and rarely does anything except repeat/rephrase what Wolf said.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
July 24 2016 03:35 GMT
#1626
Anyone know why Kerrigan wasn't picked or banned at all in the Power League Finals? They are on the current patch and my understanding is that Kerrigan is OP OP.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
July 24 2016 08:50 GMT
#1627
On July 24 2016 12:35 Random_0 wrote:
Anyone know why Kerrigan wasn't picked or banned at all in the Power League Finals? They are on the current patch and my understanding is that Kerrigan is OP OP.

She was banned once, but overall Koreans are a lot slower on meta changes and getting used to them than NA/EU, they are known for picking same heroes and using same strategies that were popular last patch for the next few weeks/month until they figure it out.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 16:22:28
July 24 2016 16:17 GMT
#1628
Final NA Regional Qualifier goes live at 1 PM EST

Here is the bracket and rules. Chu8 made an amatuer team named Chu 8 My Hotdoge that is debuting today. Astral Authority, Peter Dinklage, and Team Name Change are among the teams still looking to qualify for regionals.

Streams are:
  • Jhow and Dj Tyrant (Chu8, RFS Track)
  • Khaldor and Trikslyr (Astral Authority Track)
  • InVerum and Bababooey (Peter Dinklage Track)
  • Dreadnought and Kaeyoh (TNC Track also first game featuring Who Let Vince Play)


There is also all 4 streams at once option.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 24 2016 16:19 GMT
#1629
NA team names never cease to amaze me.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 17:30:44
July 24 2016 17:30 GMT
#1630
OMG chu8 with the slapathur body blocking in the last team fight in game 1 was hilarious.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 24 2016 19:51 GMT
#1631
2ARC vs Chu8 My Hotdoge quarter final coming up next.
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
July 25 2016 00:46 GMT
#1632
The Korean scene never ceases to amaze me. First you have this team MVP Black that seemed like it'd never lose to anyone. And then this other team Tempest came out of nowhere to beat them, twice. And within a month, another team popped up to beat Tempest almost twice.

BTW, does L5 get a seed into OGN Super League now? Since Tempo Storm is the defending champ, it has a seed already I think.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 25 2016 02:34 GMT
#1633
I don't think so, I think they have to win Super league which MVP_Black should be participating in.

Korea – Super League Season 3

Dates: July 30th – October 1st
Location: Seoul, Korea
Partner: OGN
Prize Pool: 200,000,000 KRW
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 25 2016 06:19 GMT
#1634
DRAMA BOYS:

+ Show Spoiler +
For exploiting a bug with Tyrael's Even in Death/Reciprocate/Smite which causes his trait to do bonus damage (personal opinion - this isn't remotely gamebreaking and I did not see one game decided by Tyrael dying and doing more damage...), Astral Authority were disqualified. No other team that used the trait etc have been punished. Drama is fun.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 08:05:17
July 25 2016 07:57 GMT
#1635
On July 25 2016 15:19 Larkin wrote:
DRAMA BOYS:

+ Show Spoiler +
For exploiting a bug with Tyrael's Even in Death/Reciprocate/Smite which causes his trait to do bonus damage (personal opinion - this isn't remotely gamebreaking and I did not see one game decided by Tyrael dying and doing more damage...), Astral Authority were disqualified. No other team that used the trait etc have been punished. Drama is fun.

Of course it was game breaking. There are even pictures where Falstad died when he shouldn't because he had more than enough HP to surive, but he didn't. In a game like HOTS where one kill in the late game usually results into a win, trading Tyrael for 1-2 assassins, or even dealing so much damage that they can't get back into a fight is pretty game breaking.

http://imgur.com/a/HmnXF



Also, majority of teams used Tyrael with "Even in Death" but they didn't use Smite/Reciprocate the moment he was supposed to explode, which is when the bugs happen.

EDIT: Click on that twitter picture, you will see more pictures from that guy.

And yeah, Astral_Chuck made a tweet "It's not cheating if it is in the game" that he has deleted later rofl. We have a winner for the stupidest tweet of the year, and the year is not even over yet...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
July 25 2016 15:40 GMT
#1636
I don't think I understand AA's response of this being a bug that is OK to use in KR/EU. Are there ESL tournaments there where no one is getting punished?
Don't Panic
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 17:33:09
July 25 2016 17:29 GMT
#1637
That picture is a little misleading though, due to the scrolling combat text, it looks like it was doing 9k damage, when it's really two hits for ~900 and ~250.

But still, assuming the 900 only is the bugged damage, that's still 20% more damage than it's supposed to be. When you make your decisions to run or try to gut it out, who to heal/shield versus saving cooldowns/mana, ect. That's a whole lot of variance that your decision making isn't counting for.

Edit: Reading up on the bug, the 250 damage is also part of it, so actually it's a lot more than 20% unexpected damage, more like 45%. So definitely game breaking.
KenseiTV
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 19:49:37
July 25 2016 18:59 GMT
#1638
The 905 damage is the correct damage for his trait+talent. The additional 263 damage is the bug. And if you time it, you can use two abilities for additional damage. This video shows the bug: www.youtube.com
So it is about 50% more damage if you do it correctly. The trait can then do about 75% of Falstads health.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
July 25 2016 19:50 GMT
#1639
Oh ok, I was comparing the 900 to the tooltip damage, which I should have learned is a fool's errand.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 26 2016 20:22 GMT
#1640
The make up match to see who qualifies between Chu8 My Hotdoge and Imported Support is scheduled for tonight at 7 PM EST (About two and a half hours from now). Jhow is tentatively scheduled to cast
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