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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 12 2002 09:06 GMT
#41
Eri, I never said I doubted or argued against Naz's statement. What he says will always have more consenus from other top players than my own opinion. Just saying Tsu was good in my opinion.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
December 12 2002 09:54 GMT
#42
And in my opinion tsu sucked and hacked.
JAM THE FUCKER!
Kim-Chee Jong III
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (North)12 Posts
December 12 2002 13:34 GMT
#43
I know Naz hacks...i got replays to prove it.
chRh told me he is a hacker and all
Kim Chee FOrever!!!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 12 2002 16:08 GMT
#44
*shrugs* To each, his own.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
March 04 2003 15:36 GMT
#45
anybody remember this?

Anybody wanna add somethin?
Napoleic
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada356 Posts
March 04 2003 16:38 GMT
#46
Montaro deserves mention. His use of the Ghost really was quite ahead of his time. No one ever gave that unit a chance until Boxer's amazing victory over TheMarine by locking down 12 battlecruisers at once. Montaro's mass nuke tactics are still unmatched. Of course, Montaro never had to try that against korean pros =p
Whenever you think you know something, remember this: No one even really knows if the sun will rise tomorrow. Knowledge is just a degree of belief.
Hydrone
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada234 Posts
March 04 2003 17:22 GMT
#47
Tsunami was the sort of guy who always wanted to be original. I recal obsing a game of him aobut 4 months ago, I thought he would come to his senses and expand/sunk defence/muta haras but NO lol he still going 2 evolution chamber upgrade hydra/ling vs terran

Thats a true warrior.
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TheSlowHand
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)177 Posts
March 04 2003 20:28 GMT
#48
On December 10 2002 12:50 Eliminator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2002 11:44 RowdyBob wrote:
hmmm what about the guy Grrr played in Blizz Tourny... Leader something... Skelton prob too deserves a mention (he did win a starleague.., or no?) FreeMura winning the first OGN starleague has to count for something, and SoSo also cause he was crazy (the whole pop band thing created some good games vs Grrr...)



It was [B-Blade]Leader, B-Blade used to be a pro team in the beginning if I recall well.


His name is Kim Chang-sun, a commentator for couple of leagues (the guy with square-shaped face and glasses). Just by reading the battle report, I was fascinated by the power of Terran, the lesser race at that time. Too bad he had to face Grrr in the final. (He had to fight carrier with the short-ranged goliaths)
Less Filling! Great Taste !!!
keNn)
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Philippines297 Posts
March 04 2003 22:05 GMT
#49
how about naz? how did he got in pro gaming scene?
can someone post a timeline on how all this happen?


-thx
^_^
Napoleic
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada356 Posts
March 04 2003 23:30 GMT
#50
I think Naz first became well known in Cloud Ladder, then much moreso after defeating NTT in the WCG dutch prelims
Whenever you think you know something, remember this: No one even really knows if the sun will rise tomorrow. Knowledge is just a degree of belief.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
March 05 2003 01:43 GMT
#51
Naz was always well known on the SC scene.
TeRRaN)UsEr
Profile Joined February 2003
Australia55 Posts
March 05 2003 02:11 GMT
#52
Hmm =)

This has me thinking about old times...

In 1999 in Auckland New Zealand a guy held a small bw convention and if I remember correctly the guy who hosted it was using the alias hone[sg]. He showed off )DL(October vs Grrrr - who at the time was playing z A few people paid and got to play Grrr but at the time I was not into bw all that much and did not bother playing. (God I regret that now!)

Is hone[sg] )Is(Honest by any chance? And I heard one of them (if its not the same person) used to be Grrrr's manager? Anyone know about this?

Cheers!

ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
March 05 2003 04:02 GMT
#53
Honest'[sg] was and is not )is(Honest. First of all the )is( is american, while [sg] is korean.

October vs Grrr must have been the finals of either i2e2 or the first (big) kor tourney grrr won, i'm not quite sure which one that was, tho.

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uT)CyrAx
Profile Joined October 2002
United States282 Posts
March 05 2003 06:41 GMT
#54
rofl
-.,- ~cyraxle
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
March 05 2003 06:57 GMT
#55
)Is( is as Korean as it gets..
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FridayLove
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1478 Posts
March 05 2003 07:00 GMT
#56
I dont care if mondys blue...
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
March 05 2003 12:08 GMT
#57
hone was an australian who studied korean the language and culture in college and was very enthusiastic about brood war. he began working for the australian embassy in korea a couple years ago~~ and yes he was GRrr's manager at one point, if any reason because he spoke english and korean. also that's who I think mensrea is :-)

8===D~~
rASTAPUTIN
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia59 Posts
March 05 2003 14:05 GMT
#58
larry-the-weird owned shit up. i think he got places in some blizzard tourney ages ago. i always wonder what happened to those early gamers - are they the ones where everything originates from? or just smaller playing field?
Dont stop just yet, you have the world at your feet
rASTAPUTIN
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia59 Posts
March 05 2003 14:17 GMT
#59
On December 12 2002 18:54 Casper... wrote:
And in my opinion tsu sucked and hacked.


tsu was original. original doesn't gel with sucked. and, he was too much of a gentleman to hack
Dont stop just yet, you have the world at your feet
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
March 05 2003 14:32 GMT
#60
montaro all the way....
i was a huge fan of montaro.org....omg, all those battlereports he posted, they were classic..
Nemesis has left the building~
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