Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs - Page 21

On December 22 2008 13:22 EtherealDeath wrote:
What The Fuck.

On December 27 2008 10:34 Manifesto7 wrote:
Seriously people, do not post the video here. People can use google, or be stuffed. We dont need snuff film links on this website. Use your head.

On December 27 2008 10:51 Savio wrote:
"Several days later, two 14-year-old boys from Podgornoye, a local village, were attacked as they went fishing. One of the two friends, Andrei Sidyuck, was killed, but a second boy named Vadik Lyakhov managed to escape. He was placed under arrest, suspected of murdering his friend. He was reportedly denied access to counsel and beaten by police during questioning. However, it quickly became clear that he was not responsible for his friend's death, and that the murder was connected with the Dnepropetrovsk murder spree. Vadik сooperated with the investigators to create sketches of the attackers."

From wikipedia

Whats up with that? Thats pretty messed up. You get attacked by the 3 maniacs but the police don't believe you and beat you instead.

On December 27 2008 16:32 D10 wrote:


Its called, improved interrogation techniques.

On December 25 2008 01:54 Kwark wrote:
Name a single civilised nation which practices corporal punishment in its judicial system. Do you perhaps believe the entire of civilisation has gotten it wrong here? That the concerted move of the englightened world away from retribution and towards prevention and rehabilitation was the wrong way to go?



How they treated others = A
How they treated others = wrong
A = wrong
How we treat them = B
How they treated others = How we treat them
A = B
B = wrong
B = "there is nothing wrong with this"?

You have just been logically proved to be an idiot. You have pre-empted the correct argument (that you'd be just as bad as them if you tortured them) with the proof that it is the correct argument as if you were making a point.

I don't know how people like you get yourselves dressed in the morning. Humanity continues to disappoint me.

On December 27 2008 10:34 Manifesto7 wrote:
Seriously people, do not post the video here. People can use google, or be stuffed. We dont need snuff film links on this website. Use your head.

On December 24 2008 06:44 Lucktar wrote:

This. It's unpleasant, but it's reality.

On December 28 2008 06:09 HamerD wrote:


What Kwark said was trite. Intentionally here, but the rest of the stuff he said was also trite. When one wants to apply the word 'human' in a philosophical manner, which of course any matter involving morality will always entail; one does not have to simply use physical and genetic paradigms. I agree it's tricky and dangerous to talk about taking away peoples' human rights. In Kwark's opinion it's impossible. I just wonder why. The concept of human rights is completely arbitrary. Just like any moral law, it's not absolute and separate from humanity. It's ignored by a great deal of humans entirely. It was ignored by nazi scientists and is ignored by robert mugabe and has been ignored by mao and stalin etc.

The concept of human rights, being entirely arbitrary, is therefore entirely down to the decisions of people. It's arguable just like any law. To argue against a philosophical definition of 'human' with a
legal or biological definition is irritating to say the least, and pointless to say the most.

On December 27 2008 16:32 D10 wrote:


Its called, improved interrogation techniques.

On December 28 2008 06:27 Kwark wrote:
Either he has the same human rights as you do or there are no human rights.

On December 28 2008 06:27 Kwark wrote:
1. What I said about torturing people being wrong stands. 2.What they did was wrong because torturing people is wrong. 3.Torturing them is still wrong.