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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
December 11 2008 16:40 GMT
#81
It's a dangerous time to be an australian anime fan
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
December 11 2008 17:11 GMT
#82
That's the equivalent of arresting anyone that has that hentai shit with children on the internet.
jaedong forever~
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
December 11 2008 17:22 GMT
#83
On December 12 2008 02:11 onihunter wrote:
That's the equivalent of arresting anyone that has that hentai shit with children on the internet.

I can't see any downside to that
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
December 11 2008 18:02 GMT
#84
On December 11 2008 23:08 LonelyMargarita wrote:
You can't outlaw something that might influence a small percentage of people to do something illegal. It's a slippery slope.


I'm quite considerably against slippery slope arguments. I think you can make abstract any subjective concept to make it look unwise with them. Note that I am not against your opinion, because I am halfway between pro and against this idea; but I think the point is that setting paradigms and deciding the point at which something is too far is important. It's an all or nothing mentality which I am against.

I would speculate that, because people are not brought up to consider children as sexual partners, most paedophiles will have to go through a sort of 'discovery' of their unusual sexual urges. This will, I assume, feature going through different levels of pornography and then onto real life. It's one for the research, and I don't have time to look through the academic papers.

Suffice to say I don't think your point of view there is incontestable. General consensus is to keep marijuana levels to a minimum, because it is a gateway to harder stuff; and the law reflects this. It has been decided that marijuana is one step too far, but nicotine is not...the slippery slope is avoided because people set the line and don't go for an 'all or nothing' mentality...and I think it could be argued that the same should go for child pornography of any kind.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-11 18:13:17
December 11 2008 18:07 GMT
#85
Laws are different in Japan than in the rest of the world.

If you download the stuff mentioned then you probably are in violation of the child porn rules. You risk being in jail for quite some time.

I guess you are ok if the females all have huge breasts or something.

[edit] Ok apparently they now have comparable rules after US pressure.

In 1998, Japan was the world's biggest producer of child pornography and Parliament recently refused to pass a law banning the production of child pornography, citing "business reasons." Under American pressure, in 2003 the Japanese government updated its child pornography laws to match those of the west, however it failed to curtail the industry.


Laugh all you want at that 'dumb judge' but he is just applying the current laws correctly.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-11 18:17:56
December 11 2008 18:13 GMT
#86
One other issue may be...is it wrong to be sexually attracted to the body features of children? I was thinking that if a guy wanted to marry that Shawn whatever her name was from the USA gymnastics, he would really have to have some sort of paedophilia gene in him. She looks identical to a child. There's a 20 year old girl in my house who used to be a gymnast and she gets ID'd for 16's at the cinema. She is tiny and flat chested...would her boyfriend be considered a paedophile?

If not, technically any cartoon involving small people with underdeveloped bodies would not be paedophilia unless it were specified that their age were below 18 in the actual cartoon. Ofc it's different for characters from the simpsons.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
December 11 2008 18:16 GMT
#87
On December 11 2008 15:20 dronebabo wrote:
what a dumb judge

HAHAHA

feel threatened?????
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
ChaosSyndrome
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada3 Posts
December 11 2008 18:17 GMT
#88
On December 12 2008 03:13 HamerD wrote:
One other issue may be...is it wrong to be sexually attracted to the body features of children? I was thinking that if a guy wanted to marry that Shawn whatever her name was from the USA gymnastics, he would really have to have some sort of paedophilia gene in him. She looks identical to a child. There's a 20 year old girl in my house who used to be a gymnast and she gets ID'd for 16's at the cinema. She is tiny and flat chested...would her boyfriend be considered a paedophile?

If not, technically any cartoon involving small people with underdeveloped bodies would not be paedophilia unless it were specified that their age were below 18 in the actual cartoon. Ofc it's different for characters from the simpsons but im interested in developing (intended) this.


Stop trying to justify your lust for children, pervert.

Go blow one on Lucy from Charlie Brown Christmas and leave us alone.
Get down with the sickness
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
December 11 2008 18:20 GMT
#89
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
December 11 2008 18:20 GMT
#90
On December 12 2008 03:17 ChaosSyndrome wrote:
Stop trying to justify your lust for children, pervert.
Go blow one on Lucy from Charlie Brown Christmas and leave us alone.

I'd pay for you to go to comedy camp but it would bankrupt me to get you funny. Don't be absurd and kindly die.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
December 11 2008 18:21 GMT
#91
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 11 2008 18:24 GMT
#92
oh fuck yeah I hope this law passes in the west as well
ChaosSyndrome
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-11 18:31:24
December 11 2008 18:29 GMT
#93
On December 12 2008 03:20 HamerD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 03:17 ChaosSyndrome wrote:
Stop trying to justify your lust for children, pervert.
Go blow one on Lucy from Charlie Brown Christmas and leave us alone.

I'd pay for you to go to comedy camp but it would bankrupt me to get you funny. Don't be absurd and kindly die.


No surprise that you responded so quickly. Waiting for your Dakota Fanning up-skirt gifs to load?

Pervert. You make me sick.

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On July 04 2008 06:55 HamerD wrote:
1. I'm far more talented than you'll ever be at lots of things (I have no proof but I really, deeply expect so)

2. I'm far more funny than you'll ever be (around people who aren't stupid, whooping american seals at least). I am not entirely in tune with TL humour because it is far below the usual sort of humour of my friends, and it's hard to stoop

3. I'm attractive

4. I'm definitely more intelligent, philosophical, wise, well-read, charming and intellectual than you

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8. I take life seriously...I have a lot of emotion and passion. I care about things, and I'm very protective and loyal of and to my friends.

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Get down with the sickness
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
December 11 2008 18:30 GMT
#94
On December 12 2008 03:21 HeadBangaa wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5KH9Z383hE


dude

DUDE

not cool
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
December 11 2008 18:39 GMT
#95
On December 12 2008 03:21 HeadBangaa wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5KH9Z383hE


I watched this like 3 times and I still dont know wtf is going on.
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
December 11 2008 18:46 GMT
#96
This ruling is idiotic. Obviously no children were harmed by the making of "simpson's porn". As for immoral urges: in the first place, what is immoral about a fantasy? If I fantasized about killing someone would that make me immoral? In the second place, if this guy does fantasize about Bart and Lisa, he will do it with or without the picture. Are you going to prosecute him for that?
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7327 Posts
December 11 2008 19:25 GMT
#97
damn Australia seems to be at the center of all this kind of censorship shit lately.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-11 19:26:24
December 11 2008 19:25 GMT
#98
If they want to ban this they should also ban any form of film/game violence and have people go to jail for training martial arts etc :/

Lolicon is illegal in Sweden too btw.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
December 11 2008 19:37 GMT
#99
Why do people keep comparing graphic depictions of children having sex with video game violence? How are they at all related? For some reason, beating off to children is disturbingly prevalent in society today among young male adults. I don't understand why, but it's honestly frightening seeing people rationalize it and how seemingly normal it is among internet using men to collect and watch the shit
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-11 19:52:47
December 11 2008 19:51 GMT
#100
They are related since depictions of violence isn't real violence and so no one gets hurt. Same way lolicon is a depiction of children having sex so no one gets hurt or is exposed in any way. They are also related since it has never been proven that watching depictions of violence makes you violent and neither has it been proven that watching lolicon makes you more likely to rape someone. Only reason lolicon is illegal in some places is because it is considered "immoral" whatever that means.

Even if watching violent movies made you slightly more likely to act violently I cant see a reason to ban it. Alcohol consumption makes people a lot more violent on average anyway. I don't think it should be possible for people to go to jail for what they draw or fiction they write or own. Its art and you don't censor art, you just don't.
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