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Warbux
Profile Joined April 2008
47 Posts
April 08 2008 22:01 GMT
#21
lol fancy marketing.... only good for MMORPGs...
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2824 Posts
April 08 2008 22:17 GMT
#22
Hmmm. From making my last post at 06:48 I succesfully downloaded a program and made a macro that builds zerglings from hatches 0-6. So that keyboard is completly unnecessary.

I imagine it's more usefull for zerg since your units won't que up if you hit it before the first one is finished. It would probably suck quite a lot for the other races.

It probably is cheating and it's probably a third part program anyway.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
April 08 2008 22:21 GMT
#23
On April 09 2008 06:59 Phoned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2008 06:09 Jolle wrote:
On April 09 2008 06:06 Chill wrote:
It's 100% cheating.

If ur not ironic, I agree lol
The word you are looking for is "sarcastic."

ofcourse I screwed up that one
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 08 2008 22:23 GMT
#24
It's a nice feeling keyboard anyway. Useful when my laptop starts screwing up on me.
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 08 2008 22:31 GMT
#25
I have no idea how this would help anyone mass attack with 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a, unless it also can macro mouse clicks? If you just stick with the key presses, you still need to click in between or else it's useless.
Tusk
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada427 Posts
April 08 2008 22:39 GMT
#26
On April 09 2008 06:14 fusionsdf wrote:
that said, if I had it I would totally use it for 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a spam in the lobby to try and scare my opponent :D



Excellent idea.
annYong
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-08 23:19:10
April 08 2008 23:18 GMT
#27

Anyone who can afford SC and a decent internet can afford one of these, since it's accessible to everyone, it's not cheating anymore than using the left side of your keyboard
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 08 2008 23:21 GMT
#28
Anyone can afford an $80 keyboard? You can get a whole computer that can run SC for less than that.
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SteelString
Profile Joined July 2006
446 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-08 23:26:17
April 08 2008 23:24 GMT
#29
On April 09 2008 05:46 Jolle wrote:
I'm planing to buy a new keyboard cause I want softer keys for my macro.
I came over this keyboard, omg look at the "macro" keys to the left. Don't know if I can buy this. It's like cheating...

http://www.everythingusb.com/logitech_g15_gaming_keyboard.html
OMG wtf...
[image loading]


Also would like recommendations on other keyboards if anyone have strong opinions about it.
I have small hands and looking for a "tight" and soft keyboard...



I have the G11 which has the same layout; the G keys are really too much of a hassle to set up to bother with. Half the time the command is laggy and sometimes it doesn't work at all. You have to go into a stupid little program with predefined games, and though Starcraft was in there, I could not for the life of me make the stupid thing work for it.

Anyways, I'd be very surprised if any progamer actually used the G keys.

Edit: I really like the keyboard more for the light-up keys:D
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 08 2008 23:41 GMT
#30
That keyboard (G15) has a really nice feel to it, particularly the space bar. But they're really only useful for...shoot I have no idea what type of people need that many hotkeys. Other than photoshop/final cut users.

I hate that keyboard because the macro keys interfere with using the ctrl key. But if I did, I'd hotkey all of them to p so I would press three and slam my hand down on all 15 keys and that damn probe better be build without so much as a sniffle.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 08 2008 23:42 GMT
#31
On April 09 2008 07:39 Tusk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2008 06:14 fusionsdf wrote:
that said, if I had it I would totally use it for 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a spam in the lobby to try and scare my opponent :D



Excellent idea.


This is exactly what my friend used to do when he played Starcraft. He also set it to spam 12313123132 ingame so that his APM went up to 40000.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
April 09 2008 03:36 GMT
#32
The G15 can macro mouse clicks as well for those that were wondering.

The problems with trying to use the macro keys are:
1) You have to build in delay for latency
2) You can't do anything else while the macro is running

So yes, you can make a 6sz7sz8sz9sz0sz macro, but it's going to take at least a full second to run on lan latency. If you really need to move your stack of mutas during that second, you're probably screwed - you can't just stop it at 7. Of course it's also a waste of time if you only have 2-3 hatcheries or if you want to produce different units at each hatchery. The macro keys might help you a little sometimes or hurt you sometimes; it's not worth trying to use them imo. You'll develop bad habits, won't be able to play on a normal keyboard, and some people think it's cheating anyway.

The G15 is a solid keyboard though. I like mine, although it did take a bit of getting used to the extra rows of keys. I kept hitting the G-keys instead of ctrl or esc when I first got it, which was pretty annoying. The keys aren't particularly hard or soft -- they're average.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
April 09 2008 03:45 GMT
#33
On April 09 2008 06:06 Chill wrote:
It's 100% cheating.

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Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
April 09 2008 03:50 GMT
#34
LOL.... MBS!
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
April 09 2008 03:54 GMT
#35
On April 09 2008 05:46 Jolle wrote:
I'm planing to buy a new keyboard cause I want softer keys for my macro.
I came over this keyboard, omg look at the "macro" keys to the left. Don't know if I can buy this. It's like cheating...

http://www.everythingusb.com/logitech_g15_gaming_keyboard.html
OMG wtf...
[image loading]


Also would like recommendations on other keyboards if anyone have strong opinions about it.
I have small hands and looking for a "tight" and soft keyboard...


just don't use the G keys if you like that specific keyboard.

For recommendations, how about a saitek keyboard.
I tried out the eclipse keyboard and its pretty cool
blind3x3
Profile Joined February 2008
United States49 Posts
April 09 2008 04:07 GMT
#36
he isnt talking about macro as in expoing/making units
macro in this sense means hitting one button to do a sequence of buttons, like hit g1 to do 4d5d6d7d8d9d0d to make 6 dragoons from 6 gateways or sumthing
In a world where only gosu survive, i would be dead
ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
April 09 2008 04:08 GMT
#37
It's not cheating because it won't help with your macro at all. Those keyboards are designed for games with shitty key binding features like MMORPGS. You don't need them for Blizzard games because they allow you access everything in game through hotkeys on a regular keyboard.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 09 2008 04:12 GMT
#38
On April 09 2008 13:08 ktp wrote:
It's not cheating because it won't help with your macro at all. Those keyboards are designed for games with shitty key binding features like MMORPGS. You don't need them for Blizzard games because they allow you access everything in game through hotkeys on a regular keyboard.


Yes it is. I own one of these.
You can change "G1" to type "0sd9sd8so7sh6sh5sh4sh3sh2sz1sz(enter)haha you suck(enter)"

I don't play zerg. Just trying to prove a point.
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exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
April 09 2008 04:12 GMT
#39
I own a Logitech G15 as well, and I have never used the function keys at all. I did get them for the mini LCD screen, which is marginally useful as it can easily display the computer time and usage.

What I did find invaluable, were:
o The extra USB slots that come out of the keyboard, especially handy when connecting the keyboard to a laptop (when used with an external monitor)

o The cool glow of the blue backlit keys (especially in the dark)

o The volume control wheel, which can easily set volume levels while playing Starcraft, etc.
too easy
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 09 2008 04:13 GMT
#40
exalted why are you using both an external keyboard and monitor? why not buy a pc?

Yes the blue keys ROCK.
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