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Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-08 20:47:19
April 08 2008 20:46 GMT
#1
I'm planing to buy a new keyboard cause I want softer keys for my macro.
I came over this keyboard, omg look at the "macro" keys to the left. Don't know if I can buy this. It's like cheating...

http://www.everythingusb.com/logitech_g15_gaming_keyboard.html
OMG wtf...
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Also would like recommendations on other keyboards if anyone have strong opinions about it.
I have small hands and looking for a "tight" and soft keyboard...
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
April 08 2008 20:47 GMT
#2
How would those help your macro?
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
April 08 2008 20:47 GMT
#3
I hated the G15 when I used it at Blizzcon. It didn't feel right at all.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 08 2008 20:50 GMT
#4
On April 09 2008 05:47 il0seonpurpose wrote:
How would those help your macro?



you can generally set them up to do a sequence of keyboard commands

it wouldnt help for 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a etc, but it would help you never miss scvs, since you could have that happen with one key...I dont know, I dont think its worth it if you ever want to get good at the game
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
April 08 2008 20:51 GMT
#5
On April 09 2008 05:47 il0seonpurpose wrote:
How would those help your macro?

Afaik you can program the keys to have like 8p9p0p or 5sh6sh7sh8sh in one click? At least thats what I had overheard other people saying about it :p.
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Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-08 20:52:24
April 08 2008 20:51 GMT
#6
well it's not cheating, but having the G1-G9 or whatever as buildings and G15/G16 as D/Z as protoss hotkeys would be much faster and more accurate.... (atleast for me )
aslo G13/G14/G17 as nexus and G16 as P.

Or as other mentioned here as it's programmable keys.. scripted sequences...
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
April 08 2008 20:54 GMT
#7
I have a g15, and I haven't touched those keys for SC. They're useless. It's the sort of thing you go "oh wow, they'll be really helpful!" then never use them. The only thing I use them for is buying equipment in counterstrike.

It's also a goddamn awesome keyboard.
bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
April 08 2008 20:57 GMT
#8
I have a G15, i prefer using the normal hotkeys (number keys). I don't think macros would make a huge differrence, after all it takes more than a lil macro to win a game.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
April 08 2008 20:57 GMT
#9
On April 09 2008 05:51 Jolle wrote:
well it's not cheating, but having the G1-G9 or whatever as buildings and G15/G16 as D/Z as protoss hotkeys would be much faster and more accurate.... (atleast for me )
aslo G13/G14/G17 as nexus and G16 as P.

Or as other mentioned here as it's programmable keys.. scripted sequences...
That would be cheating depending on your definition of the rules. It would give you an unfair advantage over most people who don't have such a keyboard. Even though those keys don't appear that easy to reach
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Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
April 08 2008 21:01 GMT
#10
On April 09 2008 05:57 bustaBust wrote:
I have a G15, i prefer using the normal hotkeys (number keys). I don't think macros would make a huge differrence, after all it takes more than a lil macro to win a game.


How are the keys? soft, hard? have to push the buttons down far?
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
April 08 2008 21:02 GMT
#11
I dont find it cheating....
I never found a problem in building the units myself. Pressing 4z5z6z7z is pretty fast manually.
As you move to late game and you get tons of gates, and your units start overlapping your gateway selections your macro key is almost obsolete.
Plus, you never know which unit you will need the most. Are they gonna be zealots? Dt? Ht? Dragoon? A mix of each?
Honestly, I find that a macro key can be more trouble than good. Unless you can save mouse clicks as well lol =)
Then you could save the famous 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a :D
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Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
April 08 2008 21:06 GMT
#12
anyone tried Razer Tarantula?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25979 Posts
April 08 2008 21:06 GMT
#13
It's 100% cheating.
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Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
April 08 2008 21:09 GMT
#14
On April 09 2008 06:06 Chill wrote:
It's 100% cheating.

If ur not ironic, I agree lol
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
April 08 2008 21:10 GMT
#15
This is like MBS for BW.
Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
April 08 2008 21:13 GMT
#16
If u show up with this on a lan comp, will u get banned?
Two differences here tho, just single binding keys and scripted sequences
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 08 2008 21:14 GMT
#17
that said, if I had it I would totally use it for 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a spam in the lobby to try and scare my opponent :D
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-08 21:36:50
April 08 2008 21:34 GMT
#18
I can put macros on some of the buttons on my mouse :D

I have an alt f4 macro.

And a 1a2a3a4a (can't go past that many buttons)
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2588 Posts
April 08 2008 21:48 GMT
#19
Couldn't you just download a macro program or do you have to have a special keyboard?

I imagine having 0sz9sz8sz7sz6sz and the same thing for mutas/drones would be pretty awesome.
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ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
April 08 2008 21:59 GMT
#20
On April 09 2008 06:09 Jolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2008 06:06 Chill wrote:
It's 100% cheating.

If ur not ironic, I agree lol
The word you are looking for is "sarcastic."
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