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Silvanel
Poland4730 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7890 Posts
What a depressing time. | ||
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
I bet he's pro-life. | ||
Neneu
Norway492 Posts
People feel unfomfortably too comfortable about it. It's just another normal day in the USA. | ||
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9653 Posts
On July 05 2022 23:15 NewSunshine wrote: It suck with me when I read that, because of the religious right, life begins at conception and ends at elementary school. It's not wrong. Republicans certainly have less than 0 interest in improving the situation. Hell, Democrats aren't even particularly motivated to do anything about it. I think I first heard this in a Geroge Carlin stand up, and I've thought about it alot since, because everything they do makes it more and more obvious how true it is. + Show Spoiler + | ||
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7890 Posts
On July 06 2022 01:04 NewSunshine wrote: George Carlin was always on-point with his dressing down of the "pro-life" movement. It's too bad more people didn't take him and everyone else seriously about it. Yeah. Don’t let poor, underage black women abort even though it’s a known factor to slip into further poverty, then don’t offer any kind of welfare or social help because it’s literally Hitler, and when the kid grows up, lock him in jail for 25 years on cannabis offenses because how dare you not be a respectable citizen. It’s really hard not to see american conservative as anything else but heartless a-holes these days. | ||
EnDeR_
Spain2696 Posts
On July 06 2022 02:12 Biff The Understudy wrote: Yeah. Don’t let poor, underage black women abort even though it’s a known factor to slip into further poverty, then don’t offer any kind of welfare or social help because it’s literally Hitler, and when the kid grows up, lock him in jail for 25 years on cannabis offenses because how dare you not be a respectable citizen. It’s really hard not to see american conservative as anything else but heartless a-holes these days. What's worse is, for a lot of conservatives I know, they wear the bolded part as a badge of pride. "Someone has to make the hard choices" sort of style. This really irks me as if conservatism wasn't anything other than 'lets make sure things are still going great for me' policies. | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands21699 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On July 06 2022 02:36 Gorsameth wrote: Half of the time their entire goal seems to be to 'piss of the left'. When that defines what you do, getting insulted just means your doing a good job. If it didn't have such deadly consequences, I would liken their ideology to that of a petulant child. Their entire motivation for doing anything is derived purely from what more responsible adults are telling them they should and shouldn't do, and their need for attention outweighs whether they're receiving the attention for good or bad reasons. And it's much easier to act out and play the fool than it is to build something constructive. I guess you could say it comes full-circle when these same people endorse the killings of schoolchildren. If your own social development is stunted, why should anyone else get the chance to be more mature than you? | ||
plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On July 06 2022 04:45 plasmidghost wrote: Florida's already gone full fascist. I don't know if it's ever going to stop. Haven't read it in detail, but PolitiFact seems to indicate this is false. Politifact Link. The "don't say gay" bill is however absolutely terrifying, and very much in the same spirit. | ||
plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On July 06 2022 04:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Haven't read it in detail, but PolitiFact seems to indicate this is false. Politifact Link. The "don't say gay" bill is however absolutely terrifying, and very much in the same spirit. Huh, thank you for telling me. Also completely missed that the article was from June 23, 2021. Thought it said June 23, 2022. | ||
BlackJack
United States10568 Posts
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On July 06 2022 05:49 BlackJack wrote: Even if everything DeSantis is doing is performative because he has presidential ambitions, the harm he's doing is real.Gavin Newsom is running ads in Florida attacking DeSantis and telling people to come to California. DeSantis and Newsom are a couple of smart politicians. This rivalry they have created is mutually beneficial. I suspect it's partly performative. It's like when boxers/fighters call each other out to sell more PPVs and hype up the match. They are helping each other become the face of the culture war and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to a Newsom v DeSantis showdown in 2024. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland25439 Posts
On July 06 2022 06:01 Kyadytim wrote: Even if everything DeSantis is doing is performative because he has presidential ambitions, the harm he's doing is real. This. I rather fear a DeSantis rise, it’s like if Trump had a functioning brain and some actual ideological convictions, most of which are bad. It’s nothing laudable, it’s not even particularly smart. Easy to rile up the mob, what would be actually impressive is calming the mob and building some bridges. If a statesperson emerges who can even vaguely do that they’re getting instant promotion to the GOAT list. Not of Americans but of all peoples of all time. | ||
Husyelt
United States832 Posts
On July 06 2022 07:15 WombaT wrote: This. I rather fear a DeSantis rise, it’s like if Trump had a functioning brain and some actual ideological convictions, most of which are bad. It’s nothing laudable, it’s not even particularly smart. Easy to rile up the mob, what would be actually impressive is calming the mob and building some bridges. If a statesperson emerges who can even vaguely do that they’re getting instant promotion to the GOAT list. Not of Americans but of all peoples of all time. If it makes it easier, DeSantis was sort of luddite before adopting a strongman attitude post Trump. Republicans are going to get stomped at the midterms and presidential if Biden doesnt run again. Killing off abortion is such a dumb move. | ||
Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On July 06 2022 11:39 Husyelt wrote: Assuming that the Supreme Court doesn't just hand state legislatures the power to overrule the popular vote in their state so that the coup in 2024 is just legal. The case is Moore v. Harper. The principle the judges might put into effect is the independent state legislature doctrine, which became a thing conservatives were talking about in 2000 regarding Bush, Gore, and Florida.If it makes it easier, DeSantis was sort of luddite before adopting a strongman attitude post Trump. Republicans are going to get stomped at the midterms and presidential if Biden doesnt run again. Killing off abortion is such a dumb move. | ||
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