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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-05 08:24:40
July 05 2022 08:23 GMT
#74301
If the guy shooting up 4th of July parade was screaming things in arabic every poltician would have an idea about "things we can do to increase our security". But if he was wraped in american flag, then sadly, "nothing can be done".
Pathetic Greta hater.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7985 Posts
July 05 2022 10:03 GMT
#74302
Thoughts and prayers guys, thoughts and prayers.

What a depressing time.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-05 10:09:32
July 05 2022 10:09 GMT
#74303
"Some more kids were killed, but I feel like that's old news. Let's move Right along, now."

I bet he's pro-life.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-05 13:59:19
July 05 2022 13:59 GMT
#74304
This whole thing sadly reminds me of the South Park episode Dead Kids, where the mother of Stan is hysterical about all the school shootings and everyone treats her as crazy because school shootings were normal.

People feel unfomfortably too comfortable about it. It's just another normal day in the USA.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-05 17:18:49
July 05 2022 14:15 GMT
#74305
It stuck with me when I read that, because of the religious right, life begins at conception and ends at elementary school. It's not wrong. Republicans certainly have less than 0 interest in improving the situation. Hell, Democrats aren't even particularly motivated to do anything about it.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9773 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-05 14:19:30
July 05 2022 14:18 GMT
#74306
On July 05 2022 23:15 NewSunshine wrote:
It suck with me when I read that, because of the religious right, life begins at conception and ends at elementary school. It's not wrong. Republicans certainly have less than 0 interest in improving the situation. Hell, Democrats aren't even particularly motivated to do anything about it.

I think I first heard this in a Geroge Carlin stand up, and I've thought about it alot since, because everything they do makes it more and more obvious how true it is.
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 05 2022 16:04 GMT
#74307
George Carlin was always on-point with his dressing down of the "pro-life" movement. It's too bad more people didn't take him and everyone else seriously about it.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 05 2022 16:13 GMT
#74308
--- Nuked ---
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7985 Posts
July 05 2022 17:12 GMT
#74309
On July 06 2022 01:04 NewSunshine wrote:
George Carlin was always on-point with his dressing down of the "pro-life" movement. It's too bad more people didn't take him and everyone else seriously about it.

Yeah. Don’t let poor, underage black women abort even though it’s a known factor to slip into further poverty, then don’t offer any kind of welfare or social help because it’s literally Hitler, and when the kid grows up, lock him in jail for 25 years on cannabis offenses because how dare you not be a respectable citizen.

It’s really hard not to see american conservative as anything else but heartless a-holes these days.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2779 Posts
July 05 2022 17:30 GMT
#74310
On July 06 2022 02:12 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2022 01:04 NewSunshine wrote:
George Carlin was always on-point with his dressing down of the "pro-life" movement. It's too bad more people didn't take him and everyone else seriously about it.

Yeah. Don’t let poor, underage black women abort even though it’s a known factor to slip into further poverty, then don’t offer any kind of welfare or social help because it’s literally Hitler, and when the kid grows up, lock him in jail for 25 years on cannabis offenses because how dare you not be a respectable citizen.

It’s really hard not to see american conservative as anything else but heartless a-holes these days.


What's worse is, for a lot of conservatives I know, they wear the bolded part as a badge of pride. "Someone has to make the hard choices" sort of style. This really irks me as if conservatism wasn't anything other than 'lets make sure things are still going great for me' policies.
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22103 Posts
July 05 2022 17:36 GMT
#74311
Half of the time their entire goal seems to be to 'piss of the left'. When that defines what you do, getting insulted just means your doing a good job.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 05 2022 17:47 GMT
#74312
On July 06 2022 02:36 Gorsameth wrote:
Half of the time their entire goal seems to be to 'piss of the left'. When that defines what you do, getting insulted just means your doing a good job.

If it didn't have such deadly consequences, I would liken their ideology to that of a petulant child. Their entire motivation for doing anything is derived purely from what more responsible adults are telling them they should and shouldn't do, and their need for attention outweighs whether they're receiving the attention for good or bad reasons. And it's much easier to act out and play the fool than it is to build something constructive.

I guess you could say it comes full-circle when these same people endorse the killings of schoolchildren. If your own social development is stunted, why should anyone else get the chance to be more mature than you?
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-05 19:59:47
July 05 2022 19:45 GMT
#74313
Redacted because it appears to be false.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 05 2022 19:52 GMT
#74314
On July 06 2022 04:45 plasmidghost wrote:
Florida's already gone full fascist. I don't know if it's ever going to stop.



Haven't read it in detail, but PolitiFact seems to indicate this is false.
Politifact Link.

The "don't say gay" bill is however absolutely terrifying, and very much in the same spirit.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 05 2022 20:01 GMT
#74315
On July 06 2022 04:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2022 04:45 plasmidghost wrote:
Florida's already gone full fascist. I don't know if it's ever going to stop.

https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1544290120701984770


Haven't read it in detail, but PolitiFact seems to indicate this is false.
Politifact Link.

The "don't say gay" bill is however absolutely terrifying, and very much in the same spirit.

Huh, thank you for telling me. Also completely missed that the article was from June 23, 2021. Thought it said June 23, 2022.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 05 2022 20:49 GMT
#74316
Gavin Newsom is running ads in Florida attacking DeSantis and telling people to come to California. DeSantis and Newsom are a couple of smart politicians. This rivalry they have created is mutually beneficial. I suspect it's partly performative. It's like when boxers/fighters call each other out to sell more PPVs and hype up the match. They are helping each other become the face of the culture war and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to a Newsom v DeSantis showdown in 2024.
Kyadytim
Profile Joined March 2009
United States886 Posts
July 05 2022 21:01 GMT
#74317
On July 06 2022 05:49 BlackJack wrote:
Gavin Newsom is running ads in Florida attacking DeSantis and telling people to come to California. DeSantis and Newsom are a couple of smart politicians. This rivalry they have created is mutually beneficial. I suspect it's partly performative. It's like when boxers/fighters call each other out to sell more PPVs and hype up the match. They are helping each other become the face of the culture war and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to a Newsom v DeSantis showdown in 2024.
Even if everything DeSantis is doing is performative because he has presidential ambitions, the harm he's doing is real.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26287 Posts
July 05 2022 22:15 GMT
#74318
On July 06 2022 06:01 Kyadytim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2022 05:49 BlackJack wrote:
Gavin Newsom is running ads in Florida attacking DeSantis and telling people to come to California. DeSantis and Newsom are a couple of smart politicians. This rivalry they have created is mutually beneficial. I suspect it's partly performative. It's like when boxers/fighters call each other out to sell more PPVs and hype up the match. They are helping each other become the face of the culture war and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to a Newsom v DeSantis showdown in 2024.
Even if everything DeSantis is doing is performative because he has presidential ambitions, the harm he's doing is real.

This.

I rather fear a DeSantis rise, it’s like if Trump had a functioning brain and some actual ideological convictions, most of which are bad.

It’s nothing laudable, it’s not even particularly smart. Easy to rile up the mob, what would be actually impressive is calming the mob and building some bridges.

If a statesperson emerges who can even vaguely do that they’re getting instant promotion to the GOAT list. Not of Americans but of all peoples of all time.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
July 06 2022 02:39 GMT
#74319
On July 06 2022 07:15 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2022 06:01 Kyadytim wrote:
On July 06 2022 05:49 BlackJack wrote:
Gavin Newsom is running ads in Florida attacking DeSantis and telling people to come to California. DeSantis and Newsom are a couple of smart politicians. This rivalry they have created is mutually beneficial. I suspect it's partly performative. It's like when boxers/fighters call each other out to sell more PPVs and hype up the match. They are helping each other become the face of the culture war and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to a Newsom v DeSantis showdown in 2024.
Even if everything DeSantis is doing is performative because he has presidential ambitions, the harm he's doing is real.

This.

I rather fear a DeSantis rise, it’s like if Trump had a functioning brain and some actual ideological convictions, most of which are bad.

It’s nothing laudable, it’s not even particularly smart. Easy to rile up the mob, what would be actually impressive is calming the mob and building some bridges.

If a statesperson emerges who can even vaguely do that they’re getting instant promotion to the GOAT list. Not of Americans but of all peoples of all time.

If it makes it easier, DeSantis was sort of luddite before adopting a strongman attitude post Trump. Republicans are going to get stomped at the midterms and presidential if Biden doesnt run again. Killing off abortion is such a dumb move.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Kyadytim
Profile Joined March 2009
United States886 Posts
July 06 2022 04:55 GMT
#74320
On July 06 2022 11:39 Husyelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2022 07:15 WombaT wrote:
On July 06 2022 06:01 Kyadytim wrote:
On July 06 2022 05:49 BlackJack wrote:
Gavin Newsom is running ads in Florida attacking DeSantis and telling people to come to California. DeSantis and Newsom are a couple of smart politicians. This rivalry they have created is mutually beneficial. I suspect it's partly performative. It's like when boxers/fighters call each other out to sell more PPVs and hype up the match. They are helping each other become the face of the culture war and I wouldn't be surprised if this leads to a Newsom v DeSantis showdown in 2024.
Even if everything DeSantis is doing is performative because he has presidential ambitions, the harm he's doing is real.

This.

I rather fear a DeSantis rise, it’s like if Trump had a functioning brain and some actual ideological convictions, most of which are bad.

It’s nothing laudable, it’s not even particularly smart. Easy to rile up the mob, what would be actually impressive is calming the mob and building some bridges.

If a statesperson emerges who can even vaguely do that they’re getting instant promotion to the GOAT list. Not of Americans but of all peoples of all time.

If it makes it easier, DeSantis was sort of luddite before adopting a strongman attitude post Trump. Republicans are going to get stomped at the midterms and presidential if Biden doesnt run again. Killing off abortion is such a dumb move.
Assuming that the Supreme Court doesn't just hand state legislatures the power to overrule the popular vote in their state so that the coup in 2024 is just legal. The case is Moore v. Harper. The principle the judges might put into effect is the independent state legislature doctrine, which became a thing conservatives were talking about in 2000 regarding Bush, Gore, and Florida.
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