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I think some people here are exaggerating a bit. It is pretty disorientating but its all over pretty quickly too, it doesn't last long enough that its really going to freak you out or anything. The only reason you might need a tripsitter is to stop you falling over something. I've never heard of anyone needing to be talked down or anything. Its one of those things thats an interesting experience but doesn't make you particularly feel like coming back to once you've tried it because as CoW said its not particularly pleasant. My experience was that time seemed to seperate into distinct moments as though each moment was a seperate frame which you could feel coming over you and passing as well as waves of energy rushing upwards through you. One time I did get on a big laughing buzz with a friend though so that was pretty fun. If you didn't feel anything off it then you probably didn't hold it down long enough.
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id say get one of your sucker friends to buy a bag and try it just for the experience. its nothign great man
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You can hallucinate easily off leaves. We used a butane lighter beacuse they get much hotter than regular lighters, and the vapourization temperature of the active ingredient in Salvia is supposedly much higher than THC. We used a water bong because it made the smoke cooler so it was easier to hold in.
If you are smoking leaves, grind them up really fine. You need to take monstrous hits, and you can't light the Salvia and then leave it to burn. So you need to be drawing the smoke in for about 5 seconds while holding the lighter to the leaves the whole time. If you're smoking extract ignore this, it's completely different and you'll overdo it if you take too many hits of it. And really, I don't think overdoing it on Salvia would be fun.
Then after you inhale it you need to hold it. 30 seconds should be fine per hit. It usually takes 3 hits and by the time you're on the 3rd you can feel it start to work.
It affects everyone really differently I've found. It knocks me completely out and I have insane visuals and stories in my head for about 10 minutes. People full out talking to me in my head and just insane crazy shit going on. Not insane like everything's moving really fast, just insane like I can't believe I'm thinking about this.
When I smoked weed first, it let me stay conscious during the trip, but the visuals were really reduced. It was more like being on mushrooms, but everything was really distant.
I should also say that I was doing this when I was pretty naiive. So it had never entered my mind that I might have a bad trip, and I think that's why I didn't. But I think if I had one I would have never done it again. It's really powerful stuff but beacuse it's over so quickly it's not really dangerous. I'd definitely try it, especially if you don't want to try more 'hardcore' drugs this is a good in between one.
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On April 23 2007 02:25 5HITCOMBO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2007 20:31 AmorVincitOmnia wrote:On April 22 2007 20:22 CaucasianAsian wrote: I have recently done salvia twice. It has a reverse tolerance effect so the first time you won't get anything, maybe a little buzzed. The second time I did it (we did 10x) and I was baaaaaked for like 5 minutes and buzzed for 20. It doesn't make you high for a long time, 25 minutes max.
It all depends on the kind you get though. If you have 1x salvia you won't get shit no matter how many hits you take. If you have 50x you'll be GONE.
You only hallucinate on 20x + I have only used 10x. My friends however had experiences of playing a dinosaur game and the dinosour came out of the monitor and bit off his leg. They tried to call 9-1-1 but they couldn't figure out how to dial it. lolz ehm, salvia does not produce a high. the only high i could think you might have experienced was that initial "rush", the one people like to confuse with a hallucination. it's very short lived, tastes like shit, and is just a complete waste of time and money. The last time I smoked salvia, I fucking turned into an airplane and flew across the room with my arms out. Don't tell me that there's no high.
then my tolerance is through the roof, cause everytime i've had it there was nothing but a 60 second peak where all i did was sweat my ass off and couldn't walk cause my limbs were all a fucking ton each.
NOT FOR MEEEEEE..
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hee hee hee i thought you were saying that you bought SALIVA but you didn't take it yet (thought it was a typo lol)
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saliva on the other hand, that shit'll fuck you upp.
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Lots of people are arguing over the different reactions to the drug...people react differently to substances.
Here is a funny story that my friends won't leave me alone for. So, I wanted to try pot. First time, and my friend says he will take care of me. Says he has some real good stuff. So, I get together with a bunch of my friends (another one who has never smoked it before) and we hit the bong pretty hard. My girlfriend didn't feel much, she just kinda started to calm out. Then my friend says "Oh yeah, this stuff was soaked in hydrocodone."
My girlfriend says she had to take that when she was little alot for something. I have never had hydrocodone. Or pot. And whoa...what the hell is happening?
So I start to lose it. I start jerking...like spasming...I can't control it, I just lay there and my body keeps jerking. I am freaking the fuck out.
So then I get really thirsty. I drink an entire two liter. Then I try to eat something...they tell me to eat to kill the buzz...so I eat pop tarts but I spit them all out. I tell them that it tastes like sand. Then I eat crackers. They, too, taste like sand. It all tastes like sand. So then I drink another half of a two-liter.
So everyone is now pretty buzzed and I am freaking out bad, so they start freaking. I can't stop the jerking and I am sinking into the chair and wow my hand looks cool and shit, I want this to end because this is scary.
So they basically put me inside a tent and leave me there until I fall asleep.
So I swore off ever trying that stuff again. Later that month I tried some more again, but this was just normal stuff. It was ok...felt like I had drank five beers. That was about it.
So yeah. You guys go smoke your stuff and I'll go get drunk over here.
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On April 23 2007 11:29 TheOvermind77 wrote: Lots of people are arguing over the different reactions to the drug...people react differently to substances.
Here is a funny story that my friends won't leave me alone for. So, I wanted to try pot. First time, and my friend says he will take care of me. Says he has some real good stuff. So, I get together with a bunch of my friends (another one who has never smoked it before) and we hit the bong pretty hard. My girlfriend didn't feel much, she just kinda started to calm out. Then my friend says "Oh yeah, this stuff was soaked in hydrocodone."
My girlfriend says she had to take that when she was little alot for something. I have never had hydrocodone. Or pot. And whoa...what the hell is happening?
So I start to lose it. I start jerking...like spasming...I can't control it, I just lay there and my body keeps jerking. I am freaking the fuck out.
So then I get really thirsty. I drink an entire two liter. Then I try to eat something...they tell me to eat to kill the buzz...so I eat pop tarts but I spit them all out. I tell them that it tastes like sand. Then I eat crackers. They, too, taste like sand. It all tastes like sand. So then I drink another half of a two-liter.
So everyone is now pretty buzzed and I am freaking out bad, so they start freaking. I can't stop the jerking and I am sinking into the chair and wow my hand looks cool and shit, I want this to end because this is scary.
So they basically put me inside a tent and leave me there until I fall asleep.
So I swore off ever trying that stuff again. Later that month I tried some more again, but this was just normal stuff. It was ok...felt like I had drank five beers. That was about it.
So yeah. You guys go smoke your stuff and I'll go get drunk over here.
you know this thread isnt about pot, correct? =]
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Yep, I just wanted to tell a story. That's about the only drug story I have. ><
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whaaaaaa i wish weed made me jerk out and spasm
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I too have tried it. I was 17 at the time and in FL, close to Orlando. Since it's legal (and which is why it should be more popular) we wanted to try it. I wasn't old enough to purchase it myself, being only 17, so an 18 year old went in and got it for us. It was only a gram of it.... shredded up, like shake-weed and it was 25$, not too bad. I heard about it, making you trip like whoa, and what not.. I heard that you have to hit it hard, holding a flame to it, to really get the effect. I'm not sure what potency it was, like x5 or w/e.. but it worked pretty good for me.
We were sitting in the parking lot of my friends apartment complex. We were supposed to wait for our other friends to get there to smoke it w/ us, but they were taking too long so we decided to give it a test run. I hit it and man... it was an experience. My other friend showed up and two of them got in an argument right there in the parking lot. The two of them were yelling quite loud and I didn't want them to draw any attention to us, seeing as though we were smoking out in my SUV, at the time. I got out of the car to tell them to shut up (here comes the experience). Ever since I stood up, I got the visual of being upsidedown. You know what it;s like when u're leaning over a couch, upsidedown, looking at the floor and what not... well, that's what it looked like for me.. I was trying to tell them to shut up before cops were called, but I could barely move (with everything looking like that) Finally my friends father came out and told us to shut up or come inside
I guess the biggest 'driving force' to try it once or even more than once would be the fact that it's perfectly legal to buy and produces such an effect.. Wasn't so much a 'bad experience' per-say.. I suppose i'd try it again would I be able to find a place that sells it. GL
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On April 22 2007 20:23 miNi wrote: I once slept on my table during my math class. I drooled a bit, and when i woke up, i had saliva on my face, so i quickly wiped it off. =(
haha, same here, i woke up and like my skin around my mouth was all wet, and my paper i was using was all screwed up so i had to get another one.
Edit: I think salvia is some kind of drug or something, right?
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the only thing i didnt like about it was how the trip was really short (30 minutes tops) other then that it was amazing, full out of body hallucinations, on my first time aswell we used 20x and it was amazing, i'd reccommand it to anyone.
but apparently it doesnt work on everyone, maybe your one of those it doesnt work on. or maybe the info i got off the internet is very very wrong.
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i'm not very good at typing out my experience. I read a thread on salvia the day after i took it, which was about 3 months ago. This guy pretty much explained EXACTLY what i went through infinitely times clearer then i could of explained it.
"The first time, I smoked a bowl of salvia extract, and within 20 seconds I lost all sense of where I was, and I forgot that I had smoked the drug. I went insane. I entered a new universe where I was being crushed and grinded repeatedly at consistent intervals. I looked around and saw strange cone shaped beings, brown, who were laughing and being smashed too. I tried to "go with the experience", but couldn't, it was FAR too painful. The feeling was absolute horror. I was the essence of being smashed. IT was inconprehensible.
I realized that I had exited normal reality and that where I was currently at, there were millions of clones of myself, and one of those clones had taken my place in normal reality.
I had put on some music in the background, a live Tool song, and the audience on the track entered my strange nightmare. They were my audience, and I was at the center of some strange stadium. The audience laughed at me and my feeble attempts to move. Everytime I would try to move to escape being smashed, some alien force pushed me right back into place. The audience could see into my soul and read my thoughts. They laughed at me and my pain. Then Maynard began yelling at me, directly at me, telling me my life was not real, that reality as I had known it was a dream and I could never return to it again. I realized that if I went back into my room (where I really was) and back into my normal life, I would forever realize that it was not real, it was like the plastic scene of a sitcom, completely artificial.
Finally I came back from the trance and was absolutely frightened. I was delirious and felt drunk for awhile. I had the distinct feeling that I would fall off the universe, whatever that might mean to someone who has never experienced it. It SUCKED. I felt that nightmare dimension emanating out of my right side for about 10 minutes longer. Sound fun?
The second time I did it was by chance, really. My friends wanted to experience this insanity that I have just described, for reasons that are completely beyond understanding for me. PEople are stupid. So am I, apparently. My best friend Greg had just taken a hit of the extract, and fell over on his side moaning in intense pain. I saw that the bowl was still smoldering, so I decided not to let it go to waste, as it is so expensive. Horrible and stupid decision on my part.
This time, my visual field started acting like frames on a film. Every few seconds a new frame would come down, to update the image I was seeing. Everytime this new frame clicked into place, I would hear a crowd cheering, and hear this strange, roaring voice growling. RARRRRRR click, new image. I felt like the universe was not real, what was real was some kind of horror I cannot put into words. Everytime a new frame would click into place, I felt that same old smashing sensation on the front of my body. I fell to my knees. After a few seconds of that, I got up and started moving around hte room, walking along the walls as fast as I could, saying "I have to keep walking, have to keep walking, have to keep walking." That was the only way I could avoid the weird frame effect and the smashing effect. After a few minutes of walking around the room like a crazy person, the effects subsided. Then the usual 20 or 30 minutes of feeling strange, like I might fall off the universe.
This drug is absolutely horrific to many people who try it. Some do have very enjoyable experiences though. My advice is to stay away from it. It is NOTHING like pot.
Also, whoever said it is a way to fight depression is probably incorrect. I became increasingly depressed after my experiences, and dwelled on them constantly for weeks. This is merely anecdotal evidence. I have, however, read a scientific journal that discussed the drug. Apparently, salvia is LINKED to depression. It causes depressive effects in rats. So, if anything, salvia causes depression, does not cure it. Very freaky drug, please stay away from it. Stick to the pot, if anything.
Nick/Inky"
So yeah, that's exactly what i felt during and after. It's been about 3months later and even sometimes now when i get REALLY stoned, i get that weird sensation of "not being real" still. extremely hard to explain. It was only after i tried salvia that i even knew this feeling existed. Anyway, just don't take a HUGE hit, because that's what i did unfortunately. Take a nice small hit, and i think you'll be okay, well at least you won't feel like you're drifting away from reality like i did... thx to Inky for his post.
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I always wanted to try LSD, I know the kind of people that can get it for me, but too nervous that I'm going to wake up naked in a jail cell next to a guy named Mister Big. :p
Tell me how that goes for you and your friends thou, would love to hear it!
My friends tells me proudly that he has done over 20 different drugs and LSD is the "funnest" he said that he tought he saw a guy asking him for directions, but was too afraid to talk to him b/c he feared that he wasn't really their and since he was by himself he just ignored him. He says it felt like every time he turned a corner he tought he was in that same exact spot 2 seconds ago. So I think it'll throw you for a loop, just becareful of Mister Big! :p
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If LSD = Salvia read post above if not ignore post above. :p
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On April 22 2007 20:22 CaucasianAsian wrote: They tried to call 9-1-1 but they couldn't figure out how to dial it. lolz
ahahahaha oh man hahahahaha >_<!!! hahahaha
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salvia is by FAR the most intense psychoactive i've ever had the pleasure of using next to DMT
you've never had the full effects of salvia if you "just got buzzed"
my first salvia trip i was running through pages of a coloring book while everything blended together, and it somehow made its way into a mathmatical equation. it lasted a good 6 minutes but felt like an eternity.
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On April 23 2007 08:24 Chill wrote: You can hallucinate easily off leaves. We used a butane lighter beacuse they get much hotter than regular lighters, and the vapourization temperature of the active ingredient in Salvia is supposedly much higher than THC. We used a water bong because it made the smoke cooler so it was easier to hold in.
If you are smoking leaves, grind them up really fine. You need to take monstrous hits, and you can't light the Salvia and then leave it to burn. So you need to be drawing the smoke in for about 5 seconds while holding the lighter to the leaves the whole time. If you're smoking extract ignore this, it's completely different and you'll overdo it if you take too many hits of it. And really, I don't think overdoing it on Salvia would be fun.
quoted for truth
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im gonan what ive got left again tonight. i think u guys are making it way better than it really is =x
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