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On June 27 2015 08:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? It's really annoying for me too. Like out of all issues we are going to make a fuss about, instead of focusing on more important things, we will spend years discussing simple things like abortion and gay rights. Hopefully with this, LGBT community will quiet down a bit, and behave like normal people (and get treated like normal people), so this shit stays out of news, as well as gaming communities. 99% of people here agree with gay rights already... These last 4 years have been like following cavemen learn about fire. edit: Funny how 30 years ago communism was the biggest fear... And then in the last 10 years, all of western europe and north america have been becoming very socialist.
That's what's annoying to you? It's annoying to me that of all the fucking things to find annoying, important social issues are things you call "simple". Perhaps you didn't mean it that way, but I find your approach to be a bit shallow.
Abortion and gay rights are simple, but they're not mundane, and the notion that the LGBT should quiet down to leave way to more important things is ridiculous. What more important things? The economy? Rest assured that the people who are actually working on this are not the same people who are working on social issues. And if you think politicians should just "focus on important things", well I must say I don't understand you. If you mean to say that "it goes without saying that the gays should marry" and "it goes without saying that abortions should be legal", then great but you're forgetting about a whole bunch of grey areas. They can marry, but what about discrimination? Abortion is fine, but what about repeat abortions, and until which term can you abort. Is it fully subsidized? If the LGBT community quiets down, will they perhaps lose ground? This could be overruled.
This "shit" definitely should be in the news because it's more relevant to the lives of more people than most of the shit we hear about.
As for the communism thing, that's another can of worms that involves a profoundly misunderstood concept and comparing welfare state business to communism is fucky.
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I simply think the conversation distracts from how society organized in the first place. Gay rights are things that 10 year olds are capable to discuss at the same level the media discusses them at, there's little depth to the conversation.
And it's literally been the exact same thing from both sides forever... It's always god, bible, unnatural blah blah... And freedom and equality on the other side.
I guess I just dislike how shallow conversations are about topics that become widespread. The issues that are to me more interesting - like what is the most effective implementation of unions, and what roles should which parties in society play... Or why is nothing being done about the two-party system. But discussions like these, the average person isn't able to handle, so they don't support any movements there. The entire thing going on is just trying to convince sheep of something, and then supporting you with their voice.
It's simply annoying me, because the only thing that people raise in their arguments in their day and age are equality (which I don't believe in, but I believe in gay marriage and similar religion stemmed issues), and don't even look at what impacts or problems with implementation it has. Like the stupid rallies that NDP holds here, they just shout equality, and everyone shouts it out. No analysis of repercussion or anything. `
It's like how the damn Nazi's gained popularity, got on board with all these things. Of course, this is nothing like the Nazi's, but it's like some others pointed out, some far-left movement, where most people don't use any logic, they just do it, because they have a large community that support their actions, and want to feel a part of something.
edit: We can agree that communism and socialism are very different (my parents lived in eastern europe through communism), but some reoccurring themes do come up.
edit2: I'll stop posting for now, just getting angry, and can't formulate my thoughts effectively at the moment. Anyway, congratulations to the US.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Why do people care so much about marriage. Such a stupid and pointless concept.
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On June 27 2015 09:00 Random() wrote:
Why do people care so much about marriage. Such a stupid and pointless concept.
There are countless legal benefits to it, if you don't care about the whole lifelong vows of love and commitment thing.
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On June 27 2015 08:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? edit: Funny how 30 years ago communism was the biggest fear... And then in the last 10 years, all of western europe and north america have been becoming very socialist.
lmao,
seroiusly Fiwifaki, your posts are getting more ridiculous every time.
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On June 27 2015 09:04 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 08:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? edit: Funny how 30 years ago communism was the biggest fear... And then in the last 10 years, all of western europe and north america have been becoming very socialist. lmao, seroiusly Fiwifaki, your posts are getting more ridiculous every time.
Please tell me that we have not as a whole been moving quite far to the left? I know it was a crazy comparison, maybe a slight stretch. Maybe I feel it more than others, because Canada is almost surely going for the Conservatives to the NDP federal party in a couple months, but regardless.
Aaand.. this is going offtopic.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
On June 27 2015 09:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 09:00 Random() wrote:
Why do people care so much about marriage. Such a stupid and pointless concept. There are countless legal benefits to it, if you don't care about the whole lifelong vows of love and commitment thing.
I don't see why there should be any legal benefits, as in how people who've been living together for a while are any worse than people that were pronounced married by some dude couple of days ago. And I don't see how it helps commitment in any way either. If you are commited to a relationship, you are commited. You don't need any third party to validate your relationship. And it's not like if you're married you're magically less likely to break up.
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On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself?
Just to be clear, you're joking right?
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On June 27 2015 09:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? Just to be clear, you're joking right?
Do you think you have the right to ask him whether he's joking?
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On June 27 2015 09:25 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 09:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? Just to be clear, you're joking right? Do you think you have the right to ask him whether he's joking?
Clearly not :D
I can't wrap my head around those who don't think people have even the most basic freedoms of speech and expression, and just as importantly the right to speak out and demonstrate against their own oppression. It's like telling blacks to privately talk about their problems in the back of the bus or at their separate water fountains, or asking women to complain to their ovens and stoves instead of their families and government... that publicly protesting prejudicial issues shouldn't be something that others need to acknowledge.
Fuck that. If you don't like parades, don't march in them. Don't look at them. But at least respect the fact that this is a huge win for an oppressed minority in America.
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On June 27 2015 09:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 09:25 Djzapz wrote:On June 27 2015 09:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? Just to be clear, you're joking right? Do you think you have the right to ask him whether he's joking? Clearly not :D I can't wrap my head around those who don't think people have even the most basic freedoms of speech and expression, and just as importantly the right to speak out and demonstrate against their own oppression. It's like telling blacks to privately talk about their problems in the back of the bus or at their separate water fountains, or asking women to complain to their ovens and stoves instead of their families and government... that publicly protesting prejudicial issues shouldn't be something that others need to acknowledge. Fuck that. If you don't like parades, don't march in them. Don't look at them. But at least respect the fact that this is a huge win for an oppressed minority in America.
Speaking of which, now that you guys can gay marry, do you think you can choose who you gay marry, or is one assigned to you?
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On June 27 2015 09:35 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 09:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 27 2015 09:25 Djzapz wrote:On June 27 2015 09:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? Just to be clear, you're joking right? Do you think you have the right to ask him whether he's joking? Clearly not :D I can't wrap my head around those who don't think people have even the most basic freedoms of speech and expression, and just as importantly the right to speak out and demonstrate against their own oppression. It's like telling blacks to privately talk about their problems in the back of the bus or at their separate water fountains, or asking women to complain to their ovens and stoves instead of their families and government... that publicly protesting prejudicial issues shouldn't be something that others need to acknowledge. Fuck that. If you don't like parades, don't march in them. Don't look at them. But at least respect the fact that this is a huge win for an oppressed minority in America. Speaking of which, now that you guys can gay marry, do you think you can choose who you gay marry, or is one assigned to you?
Obviously, every straight marriage is now legally divorced and everyone is forced to gay marry a person of the same sex randomly selected for them, even if you're straight 
I just looked at my postcount... need to go work on my milestone blog now 
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On June 27 2015 09:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 09:35 Djzapz wrote:On June 27 2015 09:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 27 2015 09:25 Djzapz wrote:On June 27 2015 09:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? Just to be clear, you're joking right? Do you think you have the right to ask him whether he's joking? Clearly not :D I can't wrap my head around those who don't think people have even the most basic freedoms of speech and expression, and just as importantly the right to speak out and demonstrate against their own oppression. It's like telling blacks to privately talk about their problems in the back of the bus or at their separate water fountains, or asking women to complain to their ovens and stoves instead of their families and government... that publicly protesting prejudicial issues shouldn't be something that others need to acknowledge. Fuck that. If you don't like parades, don't march in them. Don't look at them. But at least respect the fact that this is a huge win for an oppressed minority in America. Speaking of which, now that you guys can gay marry, do you think you can choose who you gay marry, or is one assigned to you? Obviously, every straight marriage is now legally divorced and everyone is forced to gay marry a person of the same sex randomly selected for them, even if you're straight I just looked at my postcount... need to go work on my milestone blog now
See you in a bit
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Well now gays have the right to marry. Next case for the supreme court: Should gays also have the right to divorce?
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On June 27 2015 09:06 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 09:04 Paljas wrote:On June 27 2015 08:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:On June 27 2015 07:08 graNite wrote:
im so annoyed by this whole discussion. why do so many people think they have the right to tell me what their sexual preferences are? i dont care what anyone does at home, i just dont want those people to shove it down everyones throat by these gay pride parades or "huge news" what stuff like this happens. why cant it be a normal thing for everyone to keep it for himself? edit: Funny how 30 years ago communism was the biggest fear... And then in the last 10 years, all of western europe and north america have been becoming very socialist. lmao, seroiusly Fiwifaki, your posts are getting more ridiculous every time. Please tell me that we have not as a whole been moving quite far to the left? I know it was a crazy comparison, maybe a slight stretch. Maybe I feel it more than others, because Canada is almost surely going for the Conservatives to the NDP federal party in a couple months, but regardless. Aaand.. this is going offtopic.
moving to the left? maybe i am not sure. certainly not everywhere and not on every issue.
however, that's irrelevant. the claim that the west has become "very socialist" is so incredibly wrong that i am inclined to believe that you dont know what socialism is/stands for.
but yeah, offtopic
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It's sad that it took people this long to treat other people... as fucking people.
Glad it happened but imo in the age of the internet, everything is taking too fucking long for people to catch up to what should be social norms.
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On June 27 2015 10:31 SK.Testie wrote:
It's sad that it took people this long to treat other people... as fucking people.
Glad it happened but imo in the age of the internet, everything is taking too fucking long for people to catch up to what should be social norms.
Clearly it took so long because the US didn't invade the US to spread freedom.
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