EPTOn July 01 2011 12:59 furymonkey wrote:
If Anarchists thinks Somalia is their ideal state, maybe we could ship them off there?
If Anarchists thinks Somalia is their ideal state, maybe we could ship them off there?
+1 to you sir.
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
+1 to you sir. | ||
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
On July 01 2011 12:13 xarthaz wrote: despite the biased assessment of BBC's Reflects on 20 Years of Anarchy, careful analysis of conditions in the area suggest remarkable improvement in living standards. You said this, but the following quotes are from the article you reference? Earlier in the year, the BBC featured a series of articles commemorating the 20th anniversary of the fall of the state in Somalia. Although the articles expressed the typical revulsion at "anarchy," the series was surprisingly balanced for such a mainstream outlet. As I said initially, the BBC's treatment is remarkably balanced. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
Sounds like the epitome of civilized progress. Where do I sign up? | ||
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puntland or the rest of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia | ||
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Expurgate
United States208 Posts
On July 01 2011 18:10 Kickboxer wrote: Cool they' ve gone from riding pirate boats around shooting Kalashnikovs to riding pirate boats around shooting Kalashnikovs while talking on the phone. Sounds like the epitome of civilized progress. Where do I sign up? The way you describe it actually makes it sound pretty awesome :-( | ||
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mike22
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Empyrean
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
On July 01 2011 18:14 Empyrean wrote: Fun fact: I nuked that account within a minute of his first post. 5 ESPORTS bucks if you can do it in under 45 seconds next time. | ||
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Empyrean
17082 Posts
Adbot anyway. (alright back on topic hahaha) | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19141 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
On July 01 2011 18:10 Kickboxer wrote: Cool they' ve gone from riding pirate boats around shooting Kalashnikovs to riding pirate boats around shooting Kalashnikovs while talking on the phone. Sounds like the epitome of civilized progress. Where do I sign up? hahahaha thanks for that one. Amazing. | ||
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Bombmk
Denmark95 Posts
On July 01 2011 17:24 brain_ wrote: Just remember that competition always results in a better product at a lower price. Once you understand that everything is a product or service, including everything government offers, it makes sense to open it up to competition rather than allow one entity a monopoly backed by violence. Oh, so thats why US citizens are on average paying double the amount for an inferior product, compared to other western communities with centralized governmentrun singlepayer healthcare? Competition is the right choice in a lot situations - but it does NOT always guaranteee a better product from societys perspective. Not guarantee that it is cheaper. It is simply naive to expect market forces to align with societys goals. Market forces would never have caused the moon landing, Market forces will never cure cancer(Happy to provide you with treatment for it though). Market forces will never teach every kid to read. Market forces will never prevent producers from putting nasty stuff in your paint, food or water. Raw competition is just as much about cutting corners as it is about improving your product. Government and regulation is needed to keep the competition honest. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
On July 01 2011 12:57 partisan wrote: This is a joke right? Surely there is not a single sane person that looks at Somalia as a success story. Yea, 20 years of endless violence where its citizens have to turn to piracy to make money. But apparently the US is at fault again, which is great because I was beginning to miss that dead horse. This. How can you even begin to think Somalia is a success? It's absurd. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
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Dooba
Croatia588 Posts
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On July 01 2011 18:05 DminusTerran wrote: You said this, but the following quotes are from the article you reference? Yes, the OP is rather inconsistent and seems to just be regurgitating things. It's probably best to just disregard most of what he is saying and focus on the topic of whether or not anarchy is actually helping somalia. The fact that the two autonomous states in Somalia are doing much better than Somalia proper suggests that decently run governments can quickly bring prosperity to a region. Puntland even managed to hold legitimate elections, which is pretty exceptional for Africa. It seems like they really have their act together. | ||
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Empyrean
17082 Posts
On July 01 2011 18:54 Dooba wrote: Maybe if any of us on the forum here lived im Somalia for the past 10-20 years and have a chance to see it as it is now... don't you think it might actually be an improvement to the state it was at back then? Who are we to judge, we don't have first hand experience. It just might be possible that it is, currently, a LOT better than it was 10 years ago. People there might be happy with their existence (however weird it might look to us westerners). With the state Somalia was in 10 years ago, it pretty much had nowhere to go but up. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
People die left and right, if someone hits your car you probably kill them or be killed and you think that's the right way? Then go there with you anarchist friends setup a big clan (with a month work in the west you can probably buy like 5 AK's so guns won't be the trouble) and do what the others do! Exploit, rape, murder, extorsion, racketiring, maybe some pirating and hostage taking! Sounds like lots of fun | ||
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