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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
April 07 2011 22:48 GMT
#461
asked to all my univ friends and they said 2 lol guess its the way we doing the maths xD
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BitterStriFe
Profile Joined June 2010
United States89 Posts
April 07 2011 22:48 GMT
#462
I am so confused, I learned this in 8th grade, (currently in 9th). It is 48÷2(9+3)=2 because you do 9+3 first, then you multiply 12 by 2 because multiplication comes before division, then you do 48 divided by 24. Why does it trip so many people up.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 22:48:22
April 07 2011 22:48 GMT
#463
On April 08 2011 07:46 FrozenPanDA wrote:
TL makes no sense. 72% say 1/(2*x) and the rest say (1/2)*x
let 48 = 1
(9+3) = x
1/(2*x) which is interpreted by 72% of TL...
and most of you are saying it is 288?
If you do it the way apparently 72% of TL does it. you end up with 2.
If you do it the way 28% of TL does it, you end up with 288.

It is honestly how you interpret it. This is only an 'amazing' question because it does not give enough information, if it were (48)/(2(9+3)) it would be simple. Obviously OP left those out to see the responses, the polls, and how the internet behaves..


Are you kidding? Look at the numbers that have voted in both polls. And look at how the divisor sign is written in both cases. I'm tired of these people pretending they're amazing and see everything perfectly. Because it's obvious they don't.
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gix_
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany28 Posts
April 07 2011 22:48 GMT
#464
On April 08 2011 07:37 micronesia wrote:
So all those college professors who write 1/2x to mean 1/(2x) are wrong? [...]

The point that I tried to make above was that even there it isn't actually written "1/2x", but either "1 / 2x" (often with a larger slash) or "1/2 x" (and both usually only if insufficient vertical space).
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
April 07 2011 22:48 GMT
#465
On April 08 2011 07:44 de1irium wrote:
http://xkcd.com/169/

How extremely appropriate.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 22:50:38
April 07 2011 22:48 GMT
#466
On April 08 2011 07:46 FrozenPanDA wrote:
TL makes no sense. 72% say 1/(2*x) and the rest say (1/2)*x
let 48 = 1
(9+3) = x
1/(2*x) which is interpreted by 72% of TL...
and most of you are saying it is 288?
If you do it the way apparently 72% of TL does it. you end up with 2.
If you do it the way 28% of TL does it, you end up with 288.

It is honestly how you interpret it. This is only an 'amazing' question because it does not give enough information, if it were (48)/(2(9+3)) it would be simple. Obviously OP left those out to see the responses, the polls, and how the internet behaves..


i was confused about that too lol

i see 1/2x as 1/(2*x), so i voted 2 for the answer.**as if only 2 can interact with ( )
however the poll shows majority voted for 1/(2*x) yet saw this equation like (1/2)x.

i'm no math wiz though, i'm just enjoying my limited pond of knowledge ^^
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xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
April 07 2011 22:48 GMT
#467
Get rid of brackets first, doesnt matter if there is divide/multiply linked to the brackets, you finish what's inside the bracket first

48÷2(9+3) = 48/2 (12)

which is essentially

48 / 2 * 12 and since multiplication and division are on the same level and can be done from left to right,

48 divide by 2, and the answer of that multiply by 12
therefore ans: 24 * 12 = 288

I learnt this when i was 10 :/
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24780 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 22:49:51
April 07 2011 22:49 GMT
#468
On April 08 2011 07:48 BitterStriFe wrote:
I am so confused, I learned this in 8th grade, (currently in 9th). It is 48÷2(9+3)=2 because you do 9+3 first, then you multiply 12 by 2 because multiplication comes before division, then you do 48 divided by 24. Why does it trip so many people up.

My suggestion is for you to read the thread. If you read the whole thread and still don't understand then pm me.

hint for future: read thread before pointing out how a thread confuses you
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
April 07 2011 22:49 GMT
#469
This was really easy for anyone who knows math. Formatting is definitely not an issue here. I read left to right and follow PEMDAS. It's exactly how a computer works when programming, nothing confusing.
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
April 07 2011 22:50 GMT
#470
On April 08 2011 07:48 BitterStriFe wrote:
I am so confused, I learned this in 8th grade, (currently in 9th). It is 48÷2(9+3)=2 because you do 9+3 first, then you multiply 12 by 2 because multiplication comes before division, then you do 48 divided by 24. Why does it trip so many people up.


Multiplication doesn't come before division. You do which ever comes first when reading left to right.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24780 Posts
April 07 2011 22:50 GMT
#471
On April 08 2011 07:49 BisuDagger wrote:
This was really easy for anyone who knows math. Formatting is definitely not an issue here. I read left to right and follow PEMDAS. It's exactly how a computer works when programming, nothing confusing.

I guess colleges give out math, physics, and computer science degrees to people who suck at math like hotcakes! Read the thread and you will see the issue isn't the difficulty of the problem mathematically but the reason WHY formatting is tripping many people up.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
April 07 2011 22:50 GMT
#472
On April 08 2011 07:48 BitterStriFe wrote:
I am so confused, I learned this in 8th grade, (currently in 9th). It is 48÷2(9+3)=2 because you do 9+3 first, then you multiply 12 by 2 because multiplication comes before division, then you do 48 divided by 24. Why does it trip so many people up.

Because its not 2. its 288 Read the thread
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
April 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#473
On April 08 2011 07:48 BitterStriFe wrote:
I am so confused, I learned this in 8th grade, (currently in 9th). It is 48÷2(9+3)=2 because you do 9+3 first, then you multiply 12 by 2 because multiplication comes before division, then you do 48 divided by 24. Why does it trip so many people up.


You're right. Thanks for contributing to that 40%.

>_____________<
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
April 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#474
On April 08 2011 07:49 BisuDagger wrote:
This was really easy for anyone who knows math. Formatting is definitely not an issue here. I read left to right and follow PEMDAS. It's exactly how a computer works when programming, nothing confusing.


i know math and i feel its confusing.. thanks
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munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
April 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#475
On April 08 2011 07:49 BisuDagger wrote:
This was really easy for anyone who knows math. Formatting is definitely not an issue here. I read left to right and follow PEMDAS. It's exactly how a computer works when programming, nothing confusing.


Let me guess, you are a computer programmer, and all math can be done by computer programs, right?
jcarlson08
Profile Joined March 2011
United States267 Posts
April 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#476
On April 08 2011 07:43 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 07:40 Clonze wrote:
LOL. Why are people arguing over this?
48÷2(9+3)=
a)......48 ............... b) ..... 48
------------------ = 2 --------------- (12) = 288
2(9+3) ............................. 2
b) is correct because when it says 48÷2, it cannot include the multiplication of 2 and (9+3) unless they are in brackets like this: (2(9+3)) or unless its 48 over everything like in option a).
b) is the correct answer! It makes me laugh that people are arguing that it's a).

It makes me laugh that you haven't read the thread enough to realize that there are legitimate reasons why people feel like the question can be considered ambiguous. Yes, we know the correct answer according to strict rules of order of operations that we learn in grade school is 288. That's not what people are discussing. Think before you post.


I think the context of the OP made it quite clear that the formulae were to be assumed correct as written.

Also, in an unrelated note, the people in this thread who think PEMDAS means multiplication comes before division are wrong. Division is simply shorthand for a certain case of multiplication and subtraction is shorthand for a certain case of addition, the operations are really one and the same.
shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
April 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#477
It's pemdas not pedmas
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
April 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#478
PS: i know why a lot of people chose 2 its cause OP put the choice as

a. 2
b. 288

when the graph shows it to be reversed
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
April 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#479
On April 08 2011 07:49 BisuDagger wrote:
This was really easy for anyone who knows math. Formatting is definitely not an issue here. I read left to right and follow PEMDAS. It's exactly how a computer works when programming, nothing confusing.

Please read the thread. Most of the discussion is about what sort of assumptions and conventions you are used to when you "know math". And if you actually care about readability of your program then you would never, ever, ever write your program the way the original question is formatted.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 22:53:34
April 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#480
On April 08 2011 07:46 FrozenPanDA wrote:
TL makes no sense. 72% say 1/(2*x) and the rest say (1/2)*x
let 48 = 1
(9+3) = x
1/(2*x) which is interpreted by 72% of TL...
and most of you are saying it is 288?
If you do it the way apparently 72% of TL does it. you end up with 2.
If you do it the way 28% of TL does it, you end up with 288.

It is honestly how you interpret it. This is only an 'amazing' question because it does not give enough information, if it were (48)/(2(9+3)) it would be simple. Obviously OP left those out to see the responses, the polls, and how the internet behaves..

i'm getting quite tired of people analogizing the ambiguity of 1/2x with 48/2(9+3) because it isnt the same. with 1/2x, the only question is which number is the coefficient. its obviously going to be interpreted as 1/(2x) because no body is going to attempt to convey x/2 as (1/2)x without using brackets
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