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Abang_Zealot
Profile Joined June 2003
Indonesia866 Posts
August 19 2004 21:24 GMT
#121
On August 20 2004 03:11 ebba wrote:
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On August 20 2004 02:11 Brett wrote:
On August 19 2004 20:27 SpuniasauR wrote:
"the lion of Athens" -Roy and H.G.



The brillance of that quote is sadly lost on people not living in Aus and watching Rampaging Roy Slaven and HG Nelson every night. Their loss


Roy and H.G > all

Hmmm I think I missed the show with that quote. Care to explain? ^_^
After)Eight(
Profile Joined March 2003
Germany502 Posts
August 19 2004 21:42 GMT
#122
On August 15 2004 14:18 mensrea wrote:
The last time any swimmer even remotely had the chance to break Spitz's record performance of 7 Gold medals in a single Olympics was in '88 when Biondi came in hyped to the hilt - and came very very close to living up to it by winning 5 Golds, 1 S8ilver and 1 Bronze.

Phelps doesn't seem very impressive at all. I say 3 Golds, maybe 4 if lucky.


lol?
i hate quote
seeyoulater
Profile Joined June 2004
970 Posts
August 19 2004 22:24 GMT
#123
On August 20 2004 00:53 mensrea wrote:
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On August 19 2004 21:45 seeyoulater wrote:
On August 19 2004 11:16 Hot_Bid wrote:
anyone else find it very ironic that the American guy who whined and accused that japanese guy that won the breaststroke of an illegal dolphin kick (judges ruled his kick was legal) got disqualified for an illegal turn (the American would've set a record and won the gold)

talk about your karma haha


What the Japanese guy did was illegal and Piersol made a valid claim. What Piersol did was hardly illegal and that's mostly why it was overturned and mostly why the guy who won silver said he probably wouldn't have accepted the Gold if Piersol was DQ'd.


Why do you trust the officials' decision in swimming in one case, but not the other? I saw the little dolphin kick that Kitajima did in his swim. I thought it should have been called. But, then again, I am not completely familiar with the rules governing the event in IOC competition. On the other hand, the swim officials pool-side DO know the rules quite well. In fact, they know the rules better than you or I do. And they also saw the dolphin kick. From a half dozen different angles. And they addressed it. And they ultimately decided it was within the rules. It's their judgement call. I also assume the officials ultimately got the Piersol decision right. That should be the end of that.

Some of you people are incredible sour grapes. Just unbelievable. Nobody mentions the fact that Kitajima was one of the two best breast strokers in the world coming into the event. Even Hansen tacitly admits Kitajima swam one heckuva final ("I didn't swim my race. I swam his. That's exactly what he wanted me to do."). And Kitajima, being Japanese, is too humble and gracious to even defend himself in public. But, he let his swimming do all the talking - he proved his 100 wasn't a fluke by also winning the 200 - with no controversy. Give the guy some credit, instead of whining about how everyone in the world except those on your team are cheaters.


The judges don't have the view of the underwater camera that everyone else has, so although they know more than me, my multiple years on the school swim team still tells me what kitajima did was illegal. The replay that most people saw wasn't even the one Piersol was complaining about. The Americans were claiming about the dolphin kick as he dived in, not as he turned. I don't think I was complaining about anyone cheating, rather stating that Piersol made a valid point and his turn not a DQable offense imo. If it was my call, I wouldn't have DQ'd him anyway since it was in the semis and I don't really care
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14896 Posts
August 20 2004 05:53 GMT
#124
interesting. after phelps won his 5th gold in the 100 fly, he gave up his spot in the relay finals to ian crocker, the man he beat, so that ian could get a gold medal as well in the relay. phelps already will get a medal because he swam in the prelims of the event. hopefully ian crocker doesn't screw up again like he did in the free relay, otherwise michael phelps is gonna look REALLY stupid for giving up his spot. a real team player in this case tho.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
August 20 2004 17:37 GMT
#125
On August 20 2004 14:53 KOFgokuon wrote:
otherwise michael phelps is gonna look REALLY stupid for giving up his spot. a real team player in this case tho.


I don't think it'll make him look stupid either way, just very gracious and a great teammate.

Keeping on topic about Phelps being overrated, I originally figured that as well, as the media really does tend to hype just about everyone, but with 7 medals (5 being gold) and almost certainly another medal on the way (very likely gold), I'm simply amazed he lived up to the hype.
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amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
August 20 2004 17:45 GMT
#126
When I first saw the subject line, my reaction was: Duh!

Now I see he is a truly amazing swimmer. I thought it was all hype, and he would get 3 if lucky.

(BTW - If evilteletubby uses that name on east, I've played you in the last few weeks on bw. Very manner player )
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
August 20 2004 17:50 GMT
#127
On August 21 2004 02:45 amat wrote:
(BTW - If evilteletubby uses that name on east, I've played you in the last few weeks on bw. Very manner player )


Hmmm... I play East, but I haven't played very many games recently. What is your aka?
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
August 20 2004 17:52 GMT
#128
He's lived up to the hype, imo. Very impressive.

And, with his letting Crocker take a shot at a Gold, he's also a true Olympian. Gotta admire this guy.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
August 20 2004 18:02 GMT
#129
On August 21 2004 02:52 mensrea wrote:
He's lived up to the hype, imo. Very impressive.

And, with his letting Crocker take a shot at a Gold, he's also a true Olympian. Gotta admire this guy.

Yeah, that put a smile on my face too.

Evil - I will pm you with my aka - it's a secret
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