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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 15 2018 16:41 GMT
#19501
On October 15 2018 02:58 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2018 15:17 spinesheath wrote:
They already write news articles with "AI", though I have no idea how exactly those work. Maybe it's just templates.


You mean The Onion? It's not like you can't see it's fake, but hilarious nonetheless

I mean actual "news articles". Why have a reporter write about some random local sports event when you can just have an AI do that. Not like anyone expects great literature in sports.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-15 21:06:28
October 15 2018 21:04 GMT
#19502
On October 15 2018 20:50 Manit0u wrote:
[image loading]

Problem solved.

hahahaha

On October 16 2018 01:41 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 02:58 Excludos wrote:
On October 14 2018 15:17 spinesheath wrote:
They already write news articles with "AI", though I have no idea how exactly those work. Maybe it's just templates.


You mean The Onion? It's not like you can't see it's fake, but hilarious nonetheless

I mean actual "news articles". Why have a reporter write about some random local sports event when you can just have an AI do that. Not like anyone expects great literature in sports.

I think that would be a feat of natural language processing far higher than anything achieved so far. Matter of fact, I think having a computer produce a well written novel would be significantly easier.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 15 2018 21:13 GMT
#19503
On October 16 2018 06:04 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2018 20:50 Manit0u wrote:
[image loading]

Problem solved.

hahahaha

Show nested quote +
On October 16 2018 01:41 spinesheath wrote:
On October 15 2018 02:58 Excludos wrote:
On October 14 2018 15:17 spinesheath wrote:
They already write news articles with "AI", though I have no idea how exactly those work. Maybe it's just templates.


You mean The Onion? It's not like you can't see it's fake, but hilarious nonetheless

I mean actual "news articles". Why have a reporter write about some random local sports event when you can just have an AI do that. Not like anyone expects great literature in sports.

I think that would be a feat of natural language processing far higher than anything achieved so far. Matter of fact, I think having a computer produce a well written novel would be significantly easier.


At least for game and stats summaries, computer written articles are used for many years.
Just read nhl.com, any pregame report. Those are 80% machine written.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 15 2018 22:11 GMT
#19504
Yeh, I don't think that would be all too hard at all. But that's separate from an actual report involving a machine watching the game and reporting on the players and events.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
October 15 2018 23:08 GMT
#19505
They operate off of stat lines. The stat lines still need to be filled by humans, but the articles can be entirely generated.

Think of those short baseball blurbs:

The Jays fell behind early as A. J. Happ struggled to get even a single out, giving up 3 runs in the first. He regained his form sitting the next 9 batters. The Jays came back to go ahead 6-3 in the 4th and poured on the runs, going ahead 500-3 in the 6th. The Jays have improved to 2-1 in the series, 100-30 for the year.


That's pretty easy to generate. We're not talking Player Tribune articles. Those are all written by the same guy. He lives in Ohio.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 16 2018 00:30 GMT
#19506
I'm talking player tribune articles though. And the original person was too, hence the "actual news articles."
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
October 16 2018 00:39 GMT
#19507
Yes, actual as in they are actually published. Player Tribune articles aren't really what I consider news articles. I think that's a separate category, due to the depth of the article, called Longform Journalism.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 16 2018 00:58 GMT
#19508
Ok, well to make things clear I'm talking about an article written by a machine, with no statlines filled by a human. The only source of input the machine has is viewing the game, and the output is something like this:

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/24815489/afl-grand-final-collingwood-mason-cox-inspired-jimmy-stynes
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
October 16 2018 01:05 GMT
#19509
Yes, I agree that that is out of the reach of AI for now.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 16 2018 15:19 GMT
#19510
I'm not talking about a machine watching the game and writing an article about it, hell no.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17774 Posts
October 17 2018 09:12 GMT
#19511
[image loading]
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 09:39:39
October 17 2018 09:37 GMT
#19512
Missing something for the 'NEIN' after the while
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17774 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-17 10:22:50
October 17 2018 10:22 GMT
#19513
On October 17 2018 18:37 solidbebe wrote:
Missing something for the 'NEIN' after the while



9!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
October 17 2018 10:35 GMT
#19514
On October 17 2018 19:22 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2018 18:37 solidbebe wrote:
Missing something for the 'NEIN' after the while



9!

That one was obvious
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-19 05:44:54
October 19 2018 05:43 GMT
#19515
On October 10 2018 22:07 bo1b wrote:
What skills do I need to write a machine learning program which outputs terrible smut? Middle age women gobble that shit up, and I think it can't be too hard to have a computer output 30 pages of formulaic sex en masse. Keep in mind that grammar and continuity issues are not a problem, and quality is even less of one.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/writing-with-ai-boring-gimmick

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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17774 Posts
October 24 2018 08:50 GMT
#19516
For all you cable-inclined guys out there:
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4767 Posts
October 24 2018 09:57 GMT
#19517
Haha. What a timing. Our company is moving to new office and tomorrow i start moving our four racks with automated test setups. Its not servers or anything, but also take a lot of cabling and its generally a mess (better than on the video though!). So i am right now thinking of how to organize things: cabling, PCs, switches, power etc. The constraint we have is that our devices under test (DUT) take 12+ different cables in and they need to be accesible all the time. We need to able to remove DUT and its cabling with ease, or modify setup.

So this movie was actually quite helpful, made me think about some things and issues. I wont be able to apply everything obviously since the way we use our gear is different but hey, i actually look forward to doing that.
Pathetic Greta hater.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 26 2018 08:15 GMT
#19518
Is there anyway to do arithmetic operations on the relational algebra? Say you have a database of fast food outlets that you own, and you might have relations like employee_info, branches etc. In the branches relation lets say there information about who is able to work for you at that particular location, and in the employee_info relation there might be a timetable showing who's working currently and who's not.

Is it possible to output how many employees are available at a specific branch at that time? I have a feeling that arithmetic operations weren't possible on the relational algebra, which is a shit if correct.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
October 26 2018 09:21 GMT
#19519
Of course that's possible, you link all those tables and use the count function on employee ids with your conditions.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 26 2018 10:45 GMT
#19520
I know it's possible like that, but I'm asking if it's possible to subtract in anyway. I found this schema out of a textbook:

https://d2vlcm61l7u1fs.cloudfront.net/media/86b/86b4f72e-7407-4e33-af28-e90aacc10ccc/php4ZZyIW.png

Lets say you're trying to find the amount of copies remaining at specific library branch, using an aggregate count might not work, depending on how they've set up the schema. If all they've done is input that there are 5 copies of Casino Royal at that library, and 2 separate people have loaned a copy from that library, how can you output the correct answer?

I'm just trying to find out if you can do arithmetic from one column of data (assuming they're both numbers) to another, which I don't think is possible (or I never learned, which is more likely).
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