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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
May 04 2010 17:04 GMT
#201
i'd love to hear some updates on this story. it's been a few weeks now
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
May 04 2010 17:04 GMT
#202
This is obviously just a ploy so he can get rich fast and live the next 5000 years of his life in luxury.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
May 04 2010 17:05 GMT
#203
On May 05 2010 01:57 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 01:53 nArAnjO wrote:
On May 04 2010 22:27 Sunyveil wrote:
god, I can't believe some of the things people are willing to accept.

This simply isn't biologically possible.

On May 04 2010 20:28 Zurles wrote:
On May 04 2010 20:23 Garnet wrote:
Read more about Tibetan people if you don't believe this.


or more about human biology and science if you do?

winnerrrrrr
On May 04 2010 22:29 stafu wrote:
On May 04 2010 22:01 RaNgeD wrote:
Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. (Matthew 4:4)


Please.. meditation and Buddhism as a philosophy is nothing like the silly myth of Christianity.

Thank you!


take it easy, when you really think about things nothing really makes any sense, you should not only believe in science and have a narrow mind imo


Huh?

Your post has confused me....


I mean i've seen a lot of posts talking about how this is scientifically, biologically, etc impossible, but when you really think about things, science comes from an impossibility too
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
May 04 2010 17:05 GMT
#204
Surviving without water for a few days seems impossible, but for more than a few days (70 years), and in one of the hottest parts of the world? I guess tomorrow we will see someone who claims they can "survive without breathing" ? While this guy is in a hospital being monitored now, a few important things to be considered are:

1) The man "claims" -- Hell, I can claim a lot of things, too. I claim I can beat Flash in a bo5.
2) India is quite a religious country (especially the state of Gujarat where this is all being taken place). Therefore, since meditation in that part of India has significant religious aspects tied to it, and this "scheme" has reached a public level, India is going to defend this religious-claim. It's all for the publicity -- almost a political thing, but with religious aspects tied with it.

Meditation or not, it's just not possible.
And yeah, great post biochemist.

Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
May 04 2010 17:06 GMT
#205
If he already lost weight in less than 3 weeks.... then think about his claim which is 70 years.... he'd be left with his bones lol
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 04 2010 17:06 GMT
#206
The fact that what this man claims is impossible according to known physics leads me to strongly believe this is a scam.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
May 04 2010 17:07 GMT
#207
This episode reminds me of the semi-recent incident in some African country where some mystic claimed that she could produce oil by striking a rock with her staff. She even prepared a demonstration for the leadership of that country and had them all duped for a time. Later, it turned out that there was actually an oil tank at the top of the hill behind her, and hitting the rock with her staff alerted her assistant, who then let some oil flow out.

The point is: if something sounds too amazing to be true, it usually is. Incredible claims require astronomical amounts of independently verifiable proof.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
May 04 2010 17:08 GMT
#208
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Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 04 2010 17:12 GMT
#209
On May 05 2010 02:04 redtooth wrote:
biochemist you're being silly. what if he had really mutated genes. we don't need food if we can just get energy (since food is energy after all). and you saying its impossible is just like saying flying or space exploration was impossible. and i'm sure you're basing your knowledge off of chemistry and biology, which are known to be economic hoaxes.

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Seriously, lol.

It always annoys me when people want to throw away an entire field of science because they feel like they have a new explanation for everything. I'm actually aware of the limitations of chemistry, biology, and physics, and the problem with these nutjobs is that they don't.

I mean if you're going to just throw away the lock-and-key model for enzymes and make some absurd claim about adrenaline giving off some type of mysterious energy signal, how do you explain the extremely detailed signaling pathways we've mapped out for it?

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I mean, did someone just make all that shit up by throwing darts at a chalkboard?
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
May 04 2010 17:12 GMT
#210
I'm all for human achievements and progression, hell I even like reading about remarkable TRUE stories. But really, playing the "science isn't everything card" hardly counts as a good argument. Really, you don't even need to debate the idea, just repeat this in your own head.
"A MAN LIVED WITHOUT FOOD AND WATER FOR 70 YEARS"

yeah... point and case to be honest.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
May 04 2010 17:13 GMT
#211
The biggest problem with this is actually that he isn't getting rid of any of the toxic waste the cells produce...
Just to give an example: A red blood cell can at the most survive 120 days before it dies and a new one has to be made. When a red blood cell dies the body recycles the iron from the hemoglobin, but the rest of the molecule is basicly waste which the body execretes through bile (which is execreted with the feces) and through the urine.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
May 04 2010 17:15 GMT
#212
On May 05 2010 01:40 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 01:39 Ghostcom wrote:
On May 05 2010 01:31 Jayme wrote:
On May 05 2010 01:28 Ghostcom wrote:
On May 05 2010 01:03 Misrah wrote:
to the hippies that actually think this is possible-

find one animal that lives with out water.

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once you give up go and take a nap. i dont want to hurt your brain


As a MD I know this isn't possible, but just to humour you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade - 12 decades without water (true it is in a sleeping state, but still).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_rat - all the water it needs is produced from the food it eats and the degradation of it.


Tardigrades can survive in the vacuum of space. When they are no longer in their sleeping state they still require water. They have a state of suspended animation. They don't necessarily survive without water they just halt the process.

Kangaroo rats still need water, they just acquire it through other means. In short it still requires consumption of SOMETHING.

You don't really need an MD to know all this though do ya?


I never claimed that the kangaroo rat didn't consume anything, just that it wasn't water...


Yea but it still NEEDS water, it just gets it through the food it eats. I fail to see why you even brought the kangaroo rat up as it doesn't live without water at all.


It lives without exogen water, just like the indian guy claims to do... I don't think I can make it any clearer than this...
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 04 2010 17:16 GMT
#213
On May 05 2010 02:13 Ghostcom wrote:
The biggest problem with this is actually that he isn't getting rid of any of the toxic waste the cells produce...
Just to give an example: A red blood cell can at the most survive 120 days before it dies and a new one has to be made. When a red blood cell dies the body recycles the iron from the hemoglobin, but the rest of the molecule is basicly waste which the body execretes through bile (which is execreted with the feces) and through the urine.


I wonder if they'll keep monitoring him until his kidneys fail.
pyr0ma5ta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States458 Posts
May 04 2010 17:16 GMT
#214
On May 05 2010 02:04 redtooth wrote:
biochemist you're being silly. what if he had really mutated genes. we don't need food if we can just get energy (since food is energy after all). and you saying its impossible is just like saying flying or space exploration was impossible. and i'm sure you're basing your knowledge off of chemistry and biology, which are known to be economic hoaxes.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123401&currentpage=8#158


As a Biology PhD student I find your assessment of Chemistry and Biology as economics hoaxes to be highly offensive. Take your ignorance elsewhere.
"I made you a zergling, but I eated it." - Defiler
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 04 2010 17:18 GMT
#215
On May 05 2010 01:53 nArAnjO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 22:27 Sunyveil wrote:
god, I can't believe some of the things people are willing to accept.

This simply isn't biologically possible.

On May 04 2010 20:28 Zurles wrote:
On May 04 2010 20:23 Garnet wrote:
Read more about Tibetan people if you don't believe this.


or more about human biology and science if you do?

winnerrrrrr
On May 04 2010 22:29 stafu wrote:
On May 04 2010 22:01 RaNgeD wrote:
Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. (Matthew 4:4)


Please.. meditation and Buddhism as a philosophy is nothing like the silly myth of Christianity.

Thank you!


take it easy, when you really think about things nothing really makes any sense, you should not only believe in science and have a narrow mind imo

you're one to talk

But you've got a point. People like me don't know anything, what with our pesky "education" and crap
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 04 2010 17:18 GMT
#216
On May 05 2010 02:16 pyr0ma5ta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 02:04 redtooth wrote:
biochemist you're being silly. what if he had really mutated genes. we don't need food if we can just get energy (since food is energy after all). and you saying its impossible is just like saying flying or space exploration was impossible. and i'm sure you're basing your knowledge off of chemistry and biology, which are known to be economic hoaxes.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123401&currentpage=8#158


As a Biology PhD student I find your assessment of Chemistry and Biology as economics hoaxes to be highly offensive. Take your ignorance elsewhere.


He was paraphrasing a quote earlier in the thread. Pretty sure he's being sarcastic.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 04 2010 17:22 GMT
#217
On May 05 2010 02:16 pyr0ma5ta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 02:04 redtooth wrote:
biochemist you're being silly. what if he had really mutated genes. we don't need food if we can just get energy (since food is energy after all). and you saying its impossible is just like saying flying or space exploration was impossible. and i'm sure you're basing your knowledge off of chemistry and biology, which are known to be economic hoaxes.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123401&currentpage=8#158


As a Biology PhD student I find your assessment of Chemistry and Biology as economics hoaxes to be highly offensive. Take your ignorance elsewhere.


Lol, im pretty sure this is satircal, given the quoted post. Someone earlier actually did post something along the lines that chemistry and biology are just economic hoaxes and everything can be explained by physics.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
May 04 2010 17:23 GMT
#218
On May 05 2010 02:16 Biochemist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 02:13 Ghostcom wrote:
The biggest problem with this is actually that he isn't getting rid of any of the toxic waste the cells produce...
Just to give an example: A red blood cell can at the most survive 120 days before it dies and a new one has to be made. When a red blood cell dies the body recycles the iron from the hemoglobin, but the rest of the molecule is basicly waste which the body execretes through bile (which is execreted with the feces) and through the urine.


I wonder if they'll keep monitoring him until his kidneys fail.


One could hope... So that people would stop making claims like these
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
May 04 2010 17:24 GMT
#219
regulating body temperature, sure.

not eating for 70 years? bullshit
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 04 2010 17:26 GMT
#220
On May 05 2010 01:45 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 01:10 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
This chap is mentioned here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breatharian




I just read the Jasmuheen section, and

"She claims that her DNA has expanded from 2 to 12 strands, to "absorb more hydrogen"."

wow...


Do people even think before they spout bullshit lololol.
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