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Kleander
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States334 Posts
February 02 2010 23:36 GMT
#101
On February 03 2010 08:26 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
In Greg Palast's super lefty worldview Bill Gates is a terrible man who kills Africans: http://www.bigeye.com/billgates.htm


lawl, is that website from 1995? how "current" could it be, it looks like i did it for a computer class in 7th grade and got an F- on the project.

its bad enough the guy is spewing hate about an awesome man, its even worse he writes for the shittiest news website of all time, well, maybe not as shitty as http://www.foxnews.com/
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. 지지 Guess who's learning Korean
greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
February 02 2010 23:36 GMT
#102
great job Bill Gates, keep on giving!
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
February 02 2010 23:38 GMT
#103
<3 Microsoft.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
February 03 2010 00:29 GMT
#104
Vaccines are nothing but poisen and profits for pharmaceutical companies. Don't take them and don't give them to your kids. Better sanitation. cleaner drinking water and better sewage systems are what eradicated the old diseases. Vaccines are stupid little jabs of poisen injected, bypassing your whole immune system, going straight into your blood stream. It's a fear mongering technique to keep people in line with the status quo.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44231 Posts
February 03 2010 00:37 GMT
#105
On January 30 2010 06:23 CharlieMurphy wrote:
shoulda donated it to cancer research or something imo.

Cancer research is hugely inefficient and expensive. Say you cure a 50 year old man of cancer, he has 20-30 more years max. Plus research and development is really expensive and offers no promises of results.

We have the cures for the biggest killers in the third world. No research and development costs, we already did all that when we cured them in the west. It's simply a question of money. And if you vaccinate a baby you get a lifetime out of them.


I suspect you only made that post out of ignorance but whatever. Cancer is pretty much irrelevant on a global scale. The only reason we care about it is because we're so well off that we don't get any of the other shit we can cure. Bill Gates is saving as many lives per dollar as he can and that should not be criticised, especially with some bullshit about cancer.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44231 Posts
February 03 2010 00:41 GMT
#106
On February 03 2010 09:29 HowitZer wrote:
Vaccines are nothing but poisen and profits for pharmaceutical companies. Don't take them and don't give them to your kids. Better sanitation. cleaner drinking water and better sewage systems are what eradicated the old diseases. Vaccines are stupid little jabs of poisen injected, bypassing your whole immune system, going straight into your blood stream. It's a fear mongering technique to keep people in line with the status quo.

LOL
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44231 Posts
February 03 2010 00:49 GMT
#107
On February 03 2010 09:29 HowitZer wrote:
Vaccines are nothing but poisen and profits for pharmaceutical companies. Don't take them and don't give them to your kids. Better sanitation. cleaner drinking water and better sewage systems are what eradicated the old diseases. Vaccines are stupid little jabs of poisen injected, bypassing your whole immune system, going straight into your blood stream. It's a fear mongering technique to keep people in line with the status quo.

This kind of stupidity won't just kill your children but may also kill other people's. Humans require herd immunity to prevent epidemics.

It is for this reason I am glad that you pretty much cannot attend school in Britain without having your key vaccines. I can't even begin to understand the level of ignorance required to ignore the facts that vaccines predate pharmaceutical companies, can be seen in nature with related diseases, conform with everything we know about how antibodies work and can (and are) proved on a daily basis.

There was a MMR vaccine scare in Britain a few years ago. The doctor in question has been discredited but the vaccinated population rate went down. Guess what, the disease incidence rose.

It disappoints me to conclude that some people are simply too stupid to exist within a society. Too utterly dense to understand the basics of how the world works. Fortunately my Government has accepted that on a bell curve there will always be those on the retarded fringe and has acted to keep their disease ridden children away from the herd.
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aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
February 03 2010 00:53 GMT
#108
I fear that no vaccine will ever be effective enough to contain the spread of HIV. The mutability of all known antigenic targets makes it
A. impossible for your body to defeat HIV.
B. production of a vaccine effective against all strains impossible due to their continually evolving nature.
The only way we will ever eliminate HIV is prevention.

Live to win.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44231 Posts
February 03 2010 00:54 GMT
#109
On February 03 2010 09:29 HowitZer wrote:
Vaccines are nothing but poisen and profits for pharmaceutical companies. Don't take them and don't give them to your kids. Better sanitation. cleaner drinking water and better sewage systems are what eradicated the old diseases. Vaccines are stupid little jabs of poisen injected, bypassing your whole immune system, going straight into your blood stream. It's a fear mongering technique to keep people in line with the status quo.

The last pockets of smallpox were wiped out through vaccinations in 1977. Why don't you go to sub-Saharan Africa and ask them how their better sanitation, clean drinking water and sewers are working out for them? After all, if the disease is gone then the conditions that cause it must be gone. They're probably just spending all that aid money on drugs.

God, humanity just makes me so angry sometimes. Seriously, I'm embarassed by genetic association with things like you. If it were up to me you'd be on one of the trains headed east into Poland.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44231 Posts
February 03 2010 00:58 GMT
#110
On February 03 2010 09:53 aRod wrote:
I fear that no vaccine will ever be effective enough to contain the spread of HIV. The mutability of all known antigenic targets makes it
A. impossible for your body to defeat HIV.
B. production of a vaccine effective against all strains impossible due to their continually evolving nature.
The only way we will ever eliminate HIV is prevention.


Or by the generation of an artificial immune system through the biotechnology or nanotechnology. Humans are slowly replacing evolved weaknesses with technological solutions. The basic example would be clothes for cold weather, it seems odd but its technological evolution. Whereas in the past we'd wait for a specific genetic mutation to create an AIDs resistant immune system and then let everyone else die out it's possible that in the future relying on your natural immune system would be as strange as relying on lots of food and a high metabolism to keep warm in winter.
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stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 01:05:56
February 03 2010 01:00 GMT
#111
On February 03 2010 09:29 HowitZer wrote:
Vaccines are nothing but poisen and profits for pharmaceutical companies. Don't take them and don't give them to your kids. Better sanitation. cleaner drinking water and better sewage systems are what eradicated the old diseases. Vaccines are stupid little jabs of poisen injected, bypassing your whole immune system, going straight into your blood stream. It's a fear mongering technique to keep people in line with the status quo.


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA,

and yeah i'd have to agree with kwark, if you get cancer you've probably lived a good life.

Hopefully evolution will grant us some sort of natural immunity to annoying things like cancer one day.
hi
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 01:30:03
February 03 2010 01:18 GMT
#112
this thread needs more Warren Buffet appreciation, he donated $37billion to the gates and melinda foundation.
hi
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
February 03 2010 01:30 GMT
#113
On February 03 2010 09:29 HowitZer wrote:
Vaccines are nothing but poisen and profits for pharmaceutical companies. Don't take them and don't give them to your kids. Better sanitation. cleaner drinking water and better sewage systems are what eradicated the old diseases. Vaccines are stupid little jabs of poisen injected, bypassing your whole immune system, going straight into your blood stream. It's a fear mongering technique to keep people in line with the status quo.

US education system hard at work I see
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
February 03 2010 02:08 GMT
#114
On February 03 2010 09:29 HowitZer wrote:
Vaccines are nothing but poisen and profits for pharmaceutical companies. Don't take them and don't give them to your kids. Better sanitation. cleaner drinking water and better sewage systems are what eradicated the old diseases. Vaccines are stupid little jabs of poisen injected, bypassing your whole immune system, going straight into your blood stream. It's a fear mongering technique to keep people in line with the status quo.


Yep, Big Pharma has me by the balls and I don't even know it! They have almost every other health professional in the country brainwashed too! Oh yeah, and we never landed on the moon.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 03 2010 02:10 GMT
#115
On February 03 2010 09:29 HowitZer wrote:
Vaccines are nothing but poisen and profits for pharmaceutical companies. Don't take them and don't give them to your kids. Better sanitation. cleaner drinking water and better sewage systems are what eradicated the old diseases. Vaccines are stupid little jabs of poisen injected, bypassing your whole immune system, going straight into your blood stream. It's a fear mongering technique to keep people in line with the status quo.

Wow.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
February 03 2010 02:13 GMT
#116
On February 03 2010 09:58 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 09:53 aRod wrote:
I fear that no vaccine will ever be effective enough to contain the spread of HIV. The mutability of all known antigenic targets makes it
A. impossible for your body to defeat HIV.
B. production of a vaccine effective against all strains impossible due to their continually evolving nature.
The only way we will ever eliminate HIV is prevention.


Or by the generation of an artificial immune system through the biotechnology or nanotechnology. Humans are slowly replacing evolved weaknesses with technological solutions. The basic example would be clothes for cold weather, it seems odd but its technological evolution. Whereas in the past we'd wait for a specific genetic mutation to create an AIDs resistant immune system and then let everyone else die out it's possible that in the future relying on your natural immune system would be as strange as relying on lots of food and a high metabolism to keep warm in winter.

You just tripled posted then double posted... and they were all good posts
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 03 2010 02:14 GMT
#117
naw I said cancer research instead of vaccines because there are too many people in the world already. Vaccines for the newcomers is arguably counter productive
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ComradeDover
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria758 Posts
February 03 2010 02:14 GMT
#118
He's been doing this since forever. It's about time he gets some recognition.
Bring back 2v2s!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 02:23:59
February 03 2010 02:23 GMT
#119
On February 03 2010 11:14 CharlieMurphy wrote:
naw I said cancer research instead of vaccines because there are too many people in the world already. Vaccines for the newcomers is arguably counter productive

You need big families when infant mortality is so high. The problems of poverty, infant mortality, overpopulation and disease are all interrelated. You have as many children as possible because they're your retirement, your bank etc... But every time one dies that's like having your house robbed. It's not just a personal tragedy, it's an investment destroyed. And it's not simply the food and time involved in raising a child either. When you have high birth rates and poor hygiene you also get hit with extremely high rates of mothers dying during childbirth. And they have significant value too.

If you look at it from an economic perspective the way the third world functions at the moment is like pailing water from a leaky boat. There are fundamental problems (ie the leaks) but the short term solutions (like pailing) do nothing to solve them long term. The short term solution to poverty, short lifespans and high mortality through large families is self destructive and wasteful.

What Bill Gates is doing here is plugging a leak. He's not just giving them food. He's not making their life easier for today with a quick cash injection. He's rectifying a fundamental flaw so one day the boat will float.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
February 03 2010 02:26 GMT
#120
10 billion isnt enough? Snapp, but props to BG
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