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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
March 20 2017 13:30 GMT
#2501
On March 20 2017 17:22 Spaylz wrote:
If Blizzard ever brings WC3 to BNet 2.0, depending on how they do it, players might come back to play on the official servers. However I'm not holding my breath, as these communities (w3arena, NetEase, etc.) are by now very well established and likely wouldn't move back to BNet even if the conditions were perfect.

Not so sure for w3arena though. It's a great platform but nothing short of a purgatory for newer players and people who aren't very good.

I'm mostly interested in this prospect due to the increasing rumours of BW HD. WC3 could be next if that happens, but I'm no longer expecting anything.

I don't care if its B.net 2.0, I just want it to play it lagless on B.net 1.0. Netease works with Blizzard so if need be, I think they would migrate their shit to whatever is offical.

W3A doesn't really have that many players, I wouldn't call it really established like Fish is.

On March 20 2017 21:31 B2W.Neo wrote:
More info:
http://www.gosugamers.net/news/43720-there-will-be-no-blizzard-games-at-wca-2017

Oh my god this is a disaster for the scene.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
March 20 2017 14:51 GMT
#2502
Awww very bad news indeed. However, wca last year didnt live up to the hype. GCS was the real world championship in my opinion. Is GCS happening (well, planned to happen) this year again?

What are the odds of an offline tournament happening somewhere in the west? If back2warcraft would start crowdfunding for a homestory-like tournament, I'd surely donate again. Though I have to admit, I have no idea about the costs of such events.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
March 20 2017 15:38 GMT
#2503
I did the math and without WCA, thats 35% of the prize money gone, which is probably something like 90% of the prize money available to Western pros or something.

But most importantly, WCA hosted a good chunk of LAN events last year, including CN vs Korea which I thoroughly enjoyed.

idk, if Netease announced their GCS plans it'd made this feel better. I was hoping last year was a success so they'd expand their plans.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
March 20 2017 17:17 GMT
#2504
Did a little talkshow about recent news (Patch 1.28 and WCA 2017) + what it means for the scene.



Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 17:28:15
March 20 2017 17:26 GMT
#2505
Would be enough if Netease would wage the jump out of china, buy server capacities in the west and connect the Netease plattform to the Bnet launcher, so it catches some more eyes again.
But I guess, this wount happen.
Even tho Bnet has the problems we all know, Bnet still has many more players then W3A, which had a record of 400 concurrent players some time ago, while Bnet has still thousands of concurrent players.

The only offline event we had in europe in the past 2 years now gone forever, large amount of money in the scene rip, very special events like Korea vs China with insane 45.000$ prizemoney alone gone... This is really a devastating news for Warcraft and hard loss for the scene. It was the highlight of the year, even tho main event itself often times had some lowlight problems that WCA cant get rid off. Heartbreaking news.

Chances for an Europeen Offlineevent?
If you dont find a billionare who has 50 grands spare to give them to people, the chances are very low for larger scale offline events here. Even in SC II, Events are not possible without Blizzard support in Europe anymore, TaKe said they have to downsize the HSC or find other ways to get it work, as the classic model doesnt work. And while he has the company with 20 employees behind to run a succesfull crowdfunding campaign in this scale (and the game has the amount of fans), I dont know if our loved B2W guys could run a large scale campaign. They still have to take care of their jobs and its hard to run it without certain amount of manpower.
I know the scene collected 3,5 grand for the travel to GCS and 5k for Geracup 100 in total, but thats still far far away of the money a larger offline event costs. Not to mention if you want pay players their travel costs, like WCA did.

Man this news still sucks....

Also, what games are left at a tournament, that wants to smell like WCG? CS:GO and Dota II?
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 20:58:26
March 20 2017 20:58 GMT
#2506
Did I get this right about the patch content (yet to check the full b2w vid from today): Blizzard is patching wc3 with the sole purpose that it can be patched more easily? Given that they are only releasing a regular patch every blue moon, that seems not worth the hassle. Unless they are planning some real engine upgrades.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
March 20 2017 21:11 GMT
#2507
On March 21 2017 05:58 Mafe wrote:
Did I get this right about the patch content (yet to check the full b2w vid from today): Blizzard is patching wc3 with the sole purpose that it can be patched more easily? Given that they are only releasing a regular patch every blue moon, that seems not worth the hassle. Unless they are planning some real engine upgrades.

Neo talked about this in the video and I posted what Brad wrote on the HIve Workshop.

Right now they can't patch as easily because the patcher they use is from 1998. It takes them 2 weeks to make sure the patch wont just break everything just by patching, or something ridiculous.

"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
March 21 2017 10:44 GMT
#2508


lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
March 21 2017 20:49 GMT
#2509
Hopefully it'll get resolved soon. I can't help to think this might be somewhat on WCA"s fault because of bad press they've gotten. Someone on /r/esports compiled this nice list of them not paying out:

https://dotablast.com/wca-2016-begin-soon/
https://dotesports.com/hearthstone/hearthstone-wec-wca-prizes-payments-1230
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/43ab21/kelly_0_responses_from_wca_regarding_prize_money/
http://www.pcgamer.com/pro-hearthstone-players-experiencing-delays-receiving-prize-money/
https://esports.yahoo.com/wca-is-a-chaotic-mess-owes-players-over-half-a-185720718.html
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
March 21 2017 20:59 GMT
#2510
if that would've been the case, we wouldn't have had wca 2016
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 22 2017 12:59 GMT
#2511
I hope things work out , no WCA is a disaster !!!
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
March 22 2017 15:52 GMT
#2512
btw does Blizzard still ban people? Right now there's a white supremacist trolling in team games on Northrend, "we-need-hitler" or something like that, teamkilling and harrassing people in chat. If Blizzard wants to revamp this game this shit shouldn't be tolerated.
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
March 24 2017 20:29 GMT
#2513
So in recent development, there will be a tournament in Shanghai April 22-23: http://war3.replays.net/news/page/20170324/23917.html

Grubby, Moon, Sky are attending, so please get hyped for that :3

and Afreeca is hosting a $10k league in April, Moon, Focus, Lyn, ReMinD, LawLiet, Infi, THO, Yumiko, 120, WFZ, and of course Fly are attending.

http://www.war3.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=news&wr_id=2111

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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto5012 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-24 22:00:03
March 24 2017 21:58 GMT
#2514
So good seeing Grubby playing more WC3 again these days, I wish more of the old guard came back.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
March 25 2017 18:39 GMT
#2515
Yeah, its good, but at the same time, I don't necessarily think they "earned" it, like Moon & Lyn did when they came back.

Granted, like maybe giving 2 slots to them is good for the viewership/exposure of the scene. I hope they put effort since Grubby stream and casts HOTS and Sky is a big business owner now. But it'll be nice to see all those legends gathered once more.
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
March 26 2017 07:43 GMT
#2516
So... this just dropped.

It's unrelated to WC3, but... if they actually did do Starcraft HD, then logically WC3 would be next.

I don't know what to think anymore.
I like words.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
March 26 2017 07:45 GMT
#2517
On March 26 2017 16:43 Spaylz wrote:
So... this just dropped.

It's unrelated to WC3, but... if they actually did do Starcraft HD, then logically WC3 would be next.

I don't know what to think anymore.

Well logically yes. But I would be surprised if being "next" means anything less than 4-5 years.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
March 26 2017 07:47 GMT
#2518
https://esports.yahoo.com/blizzards-starcraft-remastered-took-one-year-to-make-post-launch-plans-confirmed-053022518.html

16:10

Travis specifically asks about War3.

It is amazing they've done SC1 in just over a year, however it was the smallest game.

It's also possible they remaster D2 next...
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-26 08:13:02
March 26 2017 08:12 GMT
#2519
Yeah, D2 needs a remaster much more and I hope they try to remaster D2.

I dont think W3 even needs a remaster, their graphic for me is a bit more timeless then the 2D sprite graphic of D2 and BW.
What Warcraft 3 needs is its own "1.8a" Patch like BW, with several improvements, like Netease Global in the Bnet launcher (similar to native Fish support), native 16 : 9 and maybe even 4K and other bug fixes for the general game. But a HD Version?
I dont see the need for that to make it more appealing.
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
March 26 2017 09:54 GMT
#2520
The hopeless optimist in me thinks it makes more sense to bring WC3 first.

The scene is getting more life breathed back into it every year, it's currently quite active and so on. Plus, Diablo 3 did this thing where they "remade" Diablo 1 in the new game, but not Diablo 2 though. Plus the releases for D3 are otherwise very lackluster, so I'm sure fans would welcome it.

I just want WC3 first. :-(
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