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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 27 2017 14:24 GMT
#2421
On January 26 2017 20:38 B2W.Neo wrote:


Not surprised , but he did say they have 2 patches going on and they want to merge them together.

Im willing to bet no new maps or balance.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 27 2017 14:38 GMT
#2422
I left this comment on your video NEO , but I will repeat it again because I believe this is very important, its in this video:



"Yo Neo , hear me out , and if you can get this message to the WCA people in China , that will be better. As a middle eastern Wc3 fan and player who has been around since 2002 , I think having a middle east qualifiers is a DISASTER. yes the passion for the game is still burning here , we love to play , however having our own qualifiers is just dumb , I think they should do like the SC2 WCS , have the middle eastern qualifiers as a part of the EU qualifiers since there is no delay between the 2 regions , and lets face it , there isn't much to "revive" in the middle eastern wc3 scene , we are just very passionate remains and relics from old times , most of our very capable players who held their own back in the day on bnet and clan wars are now playing dota 2 and they aint coming back , believe me I tried , hell I think the middle east as a region gave up on RTS , now all the major esports tournaments in my country dont even feature an RTS game (including sc2) , again , I tried to get RTS games in these tournaments , but its just not popular enough. So I believe WCA shouldn't bother with this region , and I say this as a middle easterner myself , Middle eastern Wc3 players should shake up with EU and play in that qualifier if they are good enough , that is my suggestion. "
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
January 27 2017 15:09 GMT
#2423
i know tschado, i know....
i'll try but i don't think that something that we / my contacts can change. been through that for the american qualifier last year, busted my ass to give europe more slots but that was impossible.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 27 2017 15:58 GMT
#2424
On January 28 2017 00:09 B2W.Neo wrote:
i know tschado, i know....
i'll try but i don't think that something that we / my contacts can change. been through that for the american qualifier last year, busted my ass to give europe more slots but that was impossible.


Thanks for trying man , well at least I gave my 2 cents , if WCA wants to throw their money in a region where Wc3 will never find success again (and I know it wont , unlike the old days) it's their call.

also WTF ! they might do a ME qualifier now ? I just moved to USA , this is not fair
paxconsciente
Profile Joined January 2015
Belgium91 Posts
January 27 2017 17:16 GMT
#2425
Gameranger should be added to the list of places available to play, especially for team games. In my experience there aren't many hackers, and the play level ranks anywhere from beginner to expert. I wouldn't use the platform for 1v1, though.
It has an active community at almost all times of day, and includes custom games like TD and footmen games, as well as a prominent dota community with reliable hosts.
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HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
January 27 2017 23:04 GMT
#2426
On January 27 2017 10:54 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 04:14 lestye wrote:
Didn't Clasico say that gameplay changes weren't in the cards? If they fix the spam/hackers/lag then I'm happy!


He said they were being considered but that we shouldn't expect any gameplay changes for a while, basically.

It went against what they previously said last year, but what can you do. I'd personally be excited about an implementation of WC3 into the BNet launcher, with better servers and no delay.


Oh and the ability to host games without having to mess around your router... that alone would be sooo sweet
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
January 28 2017 03:41 GMT
#2427
After being away from WC3 for like 6 years and then getting back into it thanks to back2warcraft, human seems kinda broken now. Are they considered the best race at this point? Doesn't seem terrible, but definitely skewed towards human
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
January 28 2017 05:40 GMT
#2428
On January 28 2017 12:41 Mohdoo wrote:
After being away from WC3 for like 6 years and then getting back into it thanks to back2warcraft, human seems kinda broken now. Are they considered the best race at this point? Doesn't seem terrible, but definitely skewed towards human


I'd say it largely depends. The consensus is that Undead is the weakest race; and really it seems to be true. After that... Orc is pretty damn strong thanks to the BM and raiders/berserkers/lightning orb/etc, Human does well thanks to AM/MK, casters and expansions, and NE is still by far the most versatile race.

Overall I'd say the game is actually pretty damn balanced, aside from Undead, BM and a few things here and there. I'd also argue that the map pool has a big impact on all of it; specifically when it comes to expansions, harass, and items you can obtain from the creeps (hello Claws of Attack and Gloves of Haste).
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B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
February 01 2017 21:26 GMT
#2429
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 03 2017 00:30 GMT
#2430
Hey guys , ever since I moved to USA I havent been following much WC3 , but now that I am settled and I am not from a country on Trump's ban list XD XD XD , Im ready to watch some wc3 and catch up , so what tournaments are coming up ?
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada504 Posts
February 03 2017 00:47 GMT
#2431
Haven't they been hyping this war3 patch for almost a year now? Seems like a lost cause as it keeps getting delayed indefinitely.
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4936 Posts
February 03 2017 02:32 GMT
#2432
On February 03 2017 09:30 Tchado wrote:
Hey guys , ever since I moved to USA I havent been following much WC3 , but now that I am settled and I am not from a country on Trump's ban list XD XD XD , Im ready to watch some wc3 and catch up , so what tournaments are coming up ?

Check out http://wiki.teamliquid.net/warcraft/Main_Page
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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
February 03 2017 03:49 GMT
#2433
Are there no NA servers on W3arena anymore?
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 04 2017 13:01 GMT
#2434
On February 03 2017 11:32 FO-nTTaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2017 09:30 Tchado wrote:
Hey guys , ever since I moved to USA I havent been following much WC3 , but now that I am settled and I am not from a country on Trump's ban list XD XD XD , Im ready to watch some wc3 and catch up , so what tournaments are coming up ?

Check out http://wiki.teamliquid.net/warcraft/Main_Page


Thank you Mr, Johto resident :D
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
February 04 2017 16:05 GMT
#2435
so 3 undeads making it to top5 rankings - definitly UD is the weakest
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
February 05 2017 00:25 GMT
#2436
I've said it once , I'll say it again , it's time we abandon this "UD is the weakest" narrative , its overused and clearly makes no sense at this point.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 05 2017 03:31 GMT
#2437
On February 05 2017 09:25 Tchado wrote:
I've said it once , I'll say it again , it's time we abandon this "UD is the weakest" narrative , its overused and clearly makes no sense at this point.


I stand by it. Just because some very skilled players manage to rise above the imbalance doesn't make it untrue. You simply have to watch many Orc vs. UD matches to see it in action. The Blademaster is often far too strong and decimates Fiends and Destroyers too easily. Also takes too little damage.

In many, many of those matches, you can witness the BM tearing through units like they're made of butter, and oftentimes the Undead can't do much about it. A DK only has so much mana, while a BM can autoattack you to eternity.

My personal conviction is that Agility heroes should be nerfed. As it is, both the Blademaster and the Demon Hunter can take heaps of damage while dealing even more. Agility heroes shouldn't be so tanky. But they shouldn't be glass cannons either, I think there's a middle ground to be reached. Maybe reduce the armor gain or something.

I like words.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-05 21:33:04
February 05 2017 21:31 GMT
#2438
lol just because average scrubs can't handle Orc does not mean agility heros should be nerfed
i've seen ton of undead abuses vs Orc/Elf and rarely Hum that leads to wins and we got 3 undeads within top5 - that's something
only manaburn skill should be reconsidered somehow

renewing map pool should be something more useful for this game
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 06 2017 00:28 GMT
#2439
On February 06 2017 06:31 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
lol just because average scrubs can't handle Orc does not mean agility heros should be nerfed
i've seen ton of undead abuses vs Orc/Elf and rarely Hum that leads to wins and we got 3 undeads within top5 - that's something
only manaburn skill should be reconsidered somehow

renewing map pool should be something more useful for this game


I was talking about pro matches. It's easy to look at any Lyn vs. 120 games to see that in most cases, Lyn has the luxury of making more mistakes. To me, that alone spells imbalance.
I like words.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
February 07 2017 04:29 GMT
#2440
On February 05 2017 09:25 Tchado wrote:
I've said it once , I'll say it again , it's time we abandon this "UD is the weakest" narrative , its overused and clearly makes no sense at this point.

It makes complete sense. Theres been very very few UD champions over the years.

120 obviously is a huge gamechanger, but its his mark as a champion is still a very small speck in War3's vast decadelong history.

Also, happy, he's not even that serious at all as a pro and just wins very small cups. Gera Cups overinflate the rankings.

To me its silly to consider Happy top 5 in the world when he doesn't compete in the serious tournaments.

Also I dont think WFZ's results don't really scream top 5, either. He got 2nd at GCS which is nice, but hes not very consistent.

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