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United States47024 Posts
On July 25 2013 16:27 Chairman Ray wrote:
Ah whatever, this is PC Gamer magazine. The readers of that magazine are typically people who play a ton of video games, but only to enjoy each one on its first runthrough and move onto the next big title. This list more or less fits that type of audience.
TBH ages ago I thought the magazine actually was fairly good--giving far more frank and honest reviews than most online media at the time.
That said, they've probably been through many editorial changes since I last paid any attention to them.
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On July 25 2013 16:38 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 16:27 Chairman Ray wrote:
Ah whatever, this is PC Gamer magazine. The readers of that magazine are typically people who play a ton of video games, but only to enjoy each one on its first runthrough and move onto the next big title. This list more or less fits that type of audience. TBH ages ago I thought the magazine actually was fairly good--giving far more frank and honest reviews than most online media at the time. That said, they've probably been through many editorial changes since I last paid any attention to them.
I guess when you risk fading into complete irrelevance, you start pandering to the mainstream. :s
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Got to agree that list is awful
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On July 25 2013 16:32 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 16:27 Dreamer.T wrote:
Skyrim #1...hmm lol. I love ME2, but I don't think it deserves #2 status. Seems to be a list compiled from fan votes, as opposed to being made from a few notable critics who have a good understanding of game history. I don't think that's true. I mean if it were fan votes and fan votes alone, pretty sure one of the newer CoDs would be in the top 3. Or maybe something like Halo 3. And you certainly wouldn't see Deus Ex (the original apparently) anywhere near the top 10.
Yeah, then it's a "mainstream" player base vote. What I mean by that is the players who shun CoD because insulting CoD and hating on EA is the thing to do right now, but at the same time praise games like Skyrim as the best ever, which is sadly not very accurate either. Sadly for games, I think it's a lot harder to appreciate old classics the same way you can do with movies. I can watch Godfather and still enjoy the hell out of it, good plot and acting is timeless. Outdated graphics from older games won't be appreciated by the newer generation at all.
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On July 25 2013 16:35 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 16:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Arma 2 is that high? I thought people only got that game to play DayZ? If you consider that DayZ actually has its own entry on the list, Arma 2 probably shouldn't even be on there.
Yea, Arma2 is #13 while DayZ is #45?
On July 25 2013 16:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 16:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Arma 2 is that high? I thought people only got that game to play DayZ? Oh yeah. Why is DayZ even on this list? I thought that buggy piece of crap was still a very early build of sorts?
I heard good things about DayZ, but horrible things about WarZ (or infestation w/e it is now)
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On July 25 2013 16:25 Gerend wrote:
I've played every game on that list only one of them deserves a top ten and its not even SC2...
Deus Ex?
Anyway, the list is simply awful.
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Meh, just big names and media popularity
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On July 25 2013 16:46 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 16:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On July 25 2013 16:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Arma 2 is that high? I thought people only got that game to play DayZ? Oh yeah. Why is DayZ even on this list? I thought that buggy piece of crap was still a very early build of sorts? I heard good things about DayZ, but horrible things about WarZ (or infestation w/e it is now)
The WarZ is a worthless piece of garbage bordering on being a scam (in that they pretended the game was complete and ready to be released despite everything indicating otherwise). DayZ is not terrible and certainly not comparable to the aforementioned in that regard, but it is still very much a work in progress and that entails a lot of bugs.
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Also agree, a list for "of all time" would look very different.
For recent releases I could probably agree to some of the rankings, but too many successors over their predecessors.
Civ 5 is in there, but there isn't even Civ 4.
Fifa 13, really?
ARMA2 up that high seems odd too
Skyrim > Oblivion > Morrowind, I suppose many would disagree with that as well
Don't really know what Hotline Miami is doing on that list too, even though it was fun, but top 100 of all time? Nah
There isn't even any GTA title, which would probably deserve a spot over a lot of those currently on the list
I wonder what a top 100 would look like if the TL community voted for it
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MENDOOOOZAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
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Masq? No mention of the original GTA 1/2? Skyrim number 1? No wolf 3d, Myst etc ? What kind of shitlist is this?
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What the fuck. PEGGLE is on that list. Seriously?
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Do I win anything if I have never played any of the top 10?
Checking now, where HOMM games are on that list...
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Seems like an inflammatory list meant more to get people talking than actually stand on its own two feet.
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Yeah, right, another "recent hot games which we will pass over as greatest games ever" list.
Those guys apparently don't realize that, for example, Doom I was the game that basically won for PC's the whole war against Amiga computers for the #1 home-computer gaming platform (besides, it was awesome FPS shooter on it's own).
1. Starcraft: Brood War
2. Doom I
3. UFO: Enemy Unknown
4. Diablo II
5. Warcraft III
6. Close Combat III
7. Populous
8. Counter-Strike
9. Age of Empires I
10. The Sims
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On July 25 2013 16:56 farvacola wrote:
Seems like an inflammatory list meant more to get people talking than actually stand on its own two feet.
Most likely.
Although now that it's been moved to Sports & Games, the thread is probably going to die very soon. XD
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United States47024 Posts
On July 25 2013 16:53 PandaCore wrote:
I wonder what a top 100 would look like if the TL community voted for it
Heavily genre-biased given how TL more or less represents an audience that's fairly hardcore about competitive RTS games, which entails certain views about the genre.
Conversely, TL has a much more forgiving view of other genres. I know a lot of TLers look favorably on Bioware or Bethesda RPGs when there are similarly elitist hardcore CRPG communities that essentially view those games the same way TLers might judge, say, the CnC series.
On July 25 2013 16:56 wingpawn wrote:
Those guys apparently don't realize that, for example, Doom I was the game that basically won for PC's the whole war against Amiga computers for the #1 home-computer gaming platform (besides, it was awesome FPS shooter on it's own).
I mean, "best" is probably meant to entail "most fun to play right now", and not "most influential" meaning historical significance isn't meant to be a defining factor in choosing the games on the list.
That said, I'm still probably more likely to replay a lot of the predecessors to these games than the incarnations that got rated higher. I'm just going to go out on a limb and say you probably don't regularly replay Doom 1 at this point.
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In my opinion, I'd probably have to give the #1 spot to world of warcraft. You can argue it hasn't been so good in a while, but man, that game was addictingly fun when you first played, I don't think anyone can deny that. It's also got such a broad appeal and ever since no MMO has come close. Kinda even killed off MMOs altogether by saying nothing will be as good and I've already played it for so many years so why bother.
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On July 25 2013 17:26 Itsmedudeman wrote:
In my opinion, I'd probably have to give the #1 spot to world of warcraft. You can argue it hasn't been so good in a while, but man, that game was addictingly fun when you first played, I don't think anyone can deny that. It's also got such a broad appeal and ever since no MMO has come close. Kinda even killed off MMOs altogether by saying nothing will be as good and I've already played it for so many years so why bother.
Well it depends. Do you perceive this as a "best games" list or as a "most addicting" list?
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United States19229 Posts
On July 25 2013 17:28 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 17:26 Itsmedudeman wrote:
In my opinion, I'd probably have to give the #1 spot to world of warcraft. You can argue it hasn't been so good in a while, but man, that game was addictingly fun when you first played, I don't think anyone can deny that. It's also got such a broad appeal and ever since no MMO has come close. Kinda even killed off MMOs altogether by saying nothing will be as good and I've already played it for so many years so why bother. Well it depends. Do you perceive this as a "best games" list or as a "most addicting" list?
Well, when I said addicting I meant it was addicting for good reason, not just some brainwashy grind game. It really was a revolutionary game, and it's been going strong for so many years. Just my opinion of course.
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