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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 17:54:05
February 14 2014 17:53 GMT
#13381
Flameblast looks powerful but kinda inherently suicidal since you both stand still forever casting it and are doing one huge-ass reflectable hit to the entire screen.

Also I figured a Righteous Fire/Flameblast all-in on fire res build seemed good. But if you do that you can't have flameblast in your searing touch (need dat rise of the phoenix or w/e)
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 14 2014 18:15 GMT
#13382
On February 15 2014 02:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Flameblast looks powerful but kinda inherently suicidal since you both stand still forever casting it and are doing one huge-ass reflectable hit to the entire screen.

Also I figured a Righteous Fire/Flameblast all-in on fire res build seemed good. But if you do that you can't have flameblast in your searing touch (need dat rise of the phoenix or w/e)


It's okay, I plan to play on the new non-hardcore league huehue
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 14 2014 18:36 GMT
#13383
BTW the scoop is that Marauder tree is getting reworked in 1.1

Combined with the promised shadow buffs (since they said that most "shadow" builds are just better as scion which is true) means some nice tree changes to theorycraft around :D
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
February 14 2014 18:59 GMT
#13384
On February 15 2014 03:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
BTW the scoop is that Marauder tree is getting reworked in 1.1

Combined with the promised shadow buffs (since they said that most "shadow" builds are just better as scion which is true) means some nice tree changes to theorycraft around :D

Im hoping the lower Marauder area, and the area from upper Ranger to Witch is buffed. Only reason to go NE is for ES or crit nodes.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 14 2014 19:04 GMT
#13385
Yeah. The Shadow Ele nodes (with chance to shock/freeze/burn) are actually good except that there's never any reason to be near them unless you are crit in which case crit is better than chance to "status ailment" anyway lol.

I wish they would make claws not able to roll shit like mana and whatnot. Then claws might actually be a decent build too which would be nice for shadow.
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Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 14 2014 19:22 GMT
#13386
i'll be aura/mf as planned

someone pls do conduit

that is all
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 14 2014 19:30 GMT
#13387
if you go crit dagger with power charge how do you get the charges up?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 19:31:31
February 14 2014 19:30 GMT
#13388
On February 15 2014 04:22 Eschaton wrote:
i'll be aura/mf as planned

someone pls do conduit

that is all

My friend is doing CI crit EK. He's conduiting me Power and Frenzy charges :D

We are almost at maps, when everybody is at that stage we'll figure out a good group I think.
On February 15 2014 04:30 oneofthem wrote:
if you go crit dagger with power charge how do you get the charges up?

Either PCoC or punch urself in teh face aka volls. Its pretty ass.
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
February 14 2014 19:52 GMT
#13389
Since we're on the topic a bit already, would anyone care to answer a few questions? I've only played for a week or so...

- As soon as I saw the passive skill tree, I wanted to play a staff-blocker-evasion kind of character. I chose a templar, and think I've got a decent idea as where to go passive-wise. Mind you, I'm aiming more towards beating the game than doing it quickly, also only been playing solo + no trading.
What confuddles me is what attack to pick up to complement the build, I've been using Sweep, Heavy strike and a bit of Cyclone so far... Any tips on what could complement my theme? Maybe Frenzy multistrike?

- Playing around more with the passive tree, I got the idea for a melee-freeze character, like, hit a bunch and freeze a bunch so you take little damage. However I'm not sure what skill would be most fitting for it, Cold snap requires charges, Ice nova might be too little single target damage, Discharge maybe as mentioned above? Or the frozen hammer + AoE?

So far it's been a very fun game, but running on a 32 bit system sucks, map overload all the time :/
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 14 2014 20:01 GMT
#13390
Staff block is going to be very hard to combo with evasion. Staves are Strength/Int hybrid weapons, while Evasion is a pure-dex stat. And since the "stats" generally correspond to areas of the tree, it would be very very hard to hit the good staff block nodes as well as the good evasion nodes. And kinda pointless. BTW the best attack to use with a staff IMHO is ground slam. If you don't have one, you can make a marauder, get to town (aka kill hillock) and get groundslam as a reward. Takes ~2 minutes.

Melee freeze is viable. You just use Glacial Hammer + Elemental Proliferation (or melee Splash, or both). The problem becomes links because you need Glac Hammer, Ele Prolif, Weapon Elemental Damage, Melee Physical Damage, Multi strike and thats a 5-link WITHOUT blood magic or life leech or faster attacks or melee splash. So yeah... Basically doable but you need good links which is expensive (aka hard for a first character).

Have you unlocked scion yet? If you have, consider playing a 2-hand spectral throw character (any class, just mule yourself spectral throw) to get a feel for the game as that is pretty much "easy mode"
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 21:12:22
February 14 2014 20:44 GMT
#13391
Ground Slam is the epitome of meh in my opinion. I even have a quality one. And the point of the Staff block-evasion guy is making a Character, hard or not If I understand you correctly though, it'll be hard to get the stat points for using high level staves while going for Avoidance and the like?
I have Spectral throw on my witch, and it is indeed very good when I don't just use the mega-fun spell Storm Call, or Freezing pulse for survivability.

Also, what are the actual differences between Dominion and Standard League? like, I guess only the teamplay?

Edit: Speaking of the Witch, is there a way to keep doing "diverse" spell damage? As mentioned, I really like Storm Call, as well as Freezing Pulse, and a bit of Flame trap and Spectral Throw vs Elemental resistant... Googling it, the answer was no, just go for one school, but...
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 14 2014 20:50 GMT
#13392
Domination: Has shrines.

Standard: Doesn't have shrines.

Thats basically it. Domination is "ending" and the characters merging into standard in 9 days or so.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 14 2014 21:02 GMT
#13393
and then when 1.1.0 goes live every league will have shrines ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 14 2014 21:05 GMT
#13394
On February 15 2014 06:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
and then when 1.1.0 goes live every league will have shrines ^_^

Which I personally think is awful lol.

The benefits of the vast majority of shrines are decidedly "meh", and some of the stupider ones (thorns anybody?) are going to cause unecessary HC rips simply because you cant get close enough to the shrine to see what it is without getting mobbed by enormous packs.

Also I accidentally grabbed a divine shrine yesterday when a buddy had only that one left on his challenge (I already have the challenge)
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
February 14 2014 23:50 GMT
#13395
On February 15 2014 03:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
BTW the scoop is that Marauder tree is getting reworked in 1.1

Combined with the promised shadow buffs (since they said that most "shadow" builds are just better as scion which is true) means some nice tree changes to theorycraft around :D


I'm hoping part of the Int side rework is fixing the absymal 6% "standard" for elemental damage nodes. It would solve a lot of problems. Also, here's to hopefully getting a Witch equivalent of Primal Spirit/Versatility with +20 Str/+20 Dex.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
February 14 2014 23:55 GMT
#13396
You could do staff block + evasion with Glacial Hammer, quality added cold damage, and Proliferate.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 15 2014 00:06 GMT
#13397
shrines are cool. dont hate
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
February 15 2014 00:34 GMT
#13398
On February 15 2014 05:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
Domination: Has shrines.

Standard: Doesn't have shrines.

Thats basically it. Domination is "ending" and the characters merging into standard in 9 days or so.

actually in 1.1 standard will have shrines too
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 15 2014 00:55 GMT
#13399
On February 15 2014 09:06 oneofthem wrote:
shrines are cool. dont hate


They're pretty stupid. I wonder how much experience is at a shrine if you get lucky and bump into one for a race.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
February 15 2014 00:59 GMT
#13400
On February 15 2014 09:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 09:06 oneofthem wrote:
shrines are cool. dont hate


They're pretty stupid. I wonder how much experience is at a shrine if you get lucky and bump into one for a race.

A lot. I remember we would count shrines in merc ledge runs to decide how good the run was lol
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