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Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
June 28 2013 05:47 GMT
#8981
I don't think he's talking about being only self found. When you're just starting you can't afford good gear. Maybe you get lucky and find exalts or really good items but chances are your first character that reaches merci is gonna be really poorly geared with very little currency.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 06:28:40
June 28 2013 06:25 GMT
#8982
i havent played 2months so things might have changed but back then EK mara was one the safest and fastest way to earn currency when starting from 0
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
June 28 2013 06:50 GMT
#8983
Yeah, probably do EK marauder, get some currency and get familiar with the game, try to get to atleast level 80 or so. And then you should have enough money to make a really good CI Sporker, or Discharger, the CI Blender, or something like that.
If you need help with anything if you decide to play on Anarchy, feel free to hit me with a message.
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Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
June 28 2013 07:16 GMT
#8984
On June 28 2013 15:25 kongoline wrote:
i havent played 2months so things might have changed but back then EK mara was one the safest and fastest way to earn currency when starting from 0


EK isn't good anymore you should do Roa lioneyes glare is getting pretty cheap atm
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 07:36:06
June 28 2013 07:32 GMT
#8985
On June 28 2013 16:16 Zeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 15:25 kongoline wrote:
i havent played 2months so things might have changed but back then EK mara was one the safest and fastest way to earn currency when starting from 0


EK isn't good anymore you should do Roa lioneyes glare is getting pretty cheap atm


I disagree with this. RoA isnt a very effective skill in my experiences, there are better ways to use Lioneye's. And I dont know about in SC or HC, but Lioneyes are one of the most expensive uniques in Anarchy right now.
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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
June 28 2013 11:36 GMT
#8986
On June 28 2013 16:16 Zeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 15:25 kongoline wrote:
i havent played 2months so things might have changed but back then EK mara was one the safest and fastest way to earn currency when starting from 0


EK isn't good anymore you should do Roa lioneyes glare is getting pretty cheap atm


Ek is still fine, I have a EK marauder in onslaught I had to make after my ranger stalled out at a gear wall in cruel act 3, my mara is level 77 right now and I can run alot of MF and still do fine. The strength of the build was never in its dps, it was in its defensive ability.
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
June 28 2013 15:23 GMT
#8987
Man LagLovah I can almost never catch you online anymore lol. I'm currently level 52 Cleave Duelist @ Cruel Act3 farming docks. Shit is too easy, I'm just scared of Kole. I'm at 2.1k HP, decent arm+eva , no IR or Unwavering yet.

Also.....WHOS PSYCHED FOR DESCENT?!?
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
June 28 2013 16:52 GMT
#8988
I'm in.
I think I'll go Duelist, but Marauder seems like a very good choice without a town. Early access to +30% life from flask should be a huge advantage if there's anything resembling a boss.
Rangers seem bad with no mana, no life regen and no flask bonus early on, but they might have the only access to a guaranteed bow + skills.
Templars are always very good. Mana regen + life regen + AoE should make them the best class.
I think it will be Templar > Duelist > Marauder > Ranger = Shadow > Witch for the first race. Then people will know the loot of all the chests for the first ~10 levels, and that should matter a lot more than any other factor.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 17:02:51
June 28 2013 17:02 GMT
#8989
How do the skill gems even work in descent?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
June 28 2013 17:04 GMT
#8990
The current speculation is that you start with the default one, and you get them in guaranteed chests at the end of each level, so you can't know what you'll get the first time around.
It could also be a guaranteed drop from a boss every few levels.
Plus random drops.

So, basically, we don't know.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 28 2013 17:16 GMT
#8991
On June 29 2013 02:04 Pwere wrote:
The current speculation is that you start with the default one, and you get them in guaranteed chests at the end of each level, so you can't know what you'll get the first time around.
It could also be a guaranteed drop from a boss every few levels.
Plus random drops.

So, basically, we don't know.


I really hope there is an NPC you can choose. The gems being tied to the chests would be really terrible since you have to guess which one you want I'm assuming.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
June 28 2013 17:19 GMT
#8992
Only in the first race. Then there will be a guide =)
It would be retarded. But wouldn't matter in the long run, so it seems likely that this is how it works...
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 28 2013 17:22 GMT
#8993
On June 29 2013 02:19 Pwere wrote:
Only in the first race. Then there will be a guide =)
It would be retarded. But wouldn't matter in the long run, so it seems likely that this is how it works...


I kinda want to play the whole season blind just because it would be more fun.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
June 28 2013 18:03 GMT
#8994
There is a boss on every floor I believe? Yeah I'm thinking Templar >Duelist > Marauder as top 3. I was personally going to go with Duelist, but the AOE talents in the Templar area are really tempting.

Then again all the nodes in the Duelist starting area are good. 6 more hours!
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 19:14:22
June 28 2013 19:13 GMT
#8995
I'm going to go marauder. Higher HP + heavystrike for stunning will definitely serve me well in unknown places. Nerfs to the hp nodes hurt a lot though, Duelist tree is probably better.

Is traditional ground slam build still the go to marauder build? I haven't raced in a few months.
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 19:35:06
June 28 2013 19:34 GMT
#8996
On June 29 2013 02:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 02:04 Pwere wrote:
The current speculation is that you start with the default one, and you get them in guaranteed chests at the end of each level, so you can't know what you'll get the first time around.
It could also be a guaranteed drop from a boss every few levels.
Plus random drops.

So, basically, we don't know.


I really hope there is an NPC you can choose. The gems being tied to the chests would be really terrible since you have to guess which one you want I'm assuming.

Isn't the content of chests pairs known before you pick one ? That's what I understood from the dev's post. You can only get one but you know what's in both.

Anyway, I hope for some reports to read about everyone's races tomorrow. Can't play, but sure wish I could, this descent thing seems awesome.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 28 2013 19:53 GMT
#8997
On June 29 2013 04:34 Cynry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 02:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 29 2013 02:04 Pwere wrote:
The current speculation is that you start with the default one, and you get them in guaranteed chests at the end of each level, so you can't know what you'll get the first time around.
It could also be a guaranteed drop from a boss every few levels.
Plus random drops.

So, basically, we don't know.


I really hope there is an NPC you can choose. The gems being tied to the chests would be really terrible since you have to guess which one you want I'm assuming.

Isn't the content of chests pairs known before you pick one ? That's what I understood from the dev's post. You can only get one but you know what's in both.

Anyway, I hope for some reports to read about everyone's races tomorrow. Can't play, but sure wish I could, this descent thing seems awesome.


I got the impression you didn't know what was in them until you opened them, but I guess you could peak into both before making a decision. Impossible to say.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 19:59:57
June 28 2013 19:59 GMT
#8998
Went back to check how it's worded, and I think you are right. Can only open one. The dev talks about the choice only because he reveals the first pair, but every other pair seems unknown indeed.
And who missed another opportunity to keep his mouth shut...
michaelthe
Profile Joined February 2010
United States359 Posts
June 28 2013 20:08 GMT
#8999
On June 28 2013 14:25 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 14:23 LagLovah wrote:
Cheapest solo build is EK marauder tank, also easiest gear requirements since you only need EK + Added fire + blood magic + faster casting to do quite well. Its also boring as all hell, but its the safest/lowest gear build there is.

Telling him to go CI spark is .. well, that's insane for a new players first build, spark alone does take a fair bit of gear to use, since it doesnt start performing well until lvl 16-18 gem level (late merciless) without some amazing gear, and switching from health to CI takes alot of regrets and knowledge about how to do it properly. Also the playstyle for ES is way different than that for life

Your bread and butter 3 simple builds are likely EK rauder ( starting with leap slam ) LA rauder ( or ranger if you dont want to buy skill gems ) health based spark, starting as either witch (LMP Freeze pulse until merciless fellshrine probably or ele cleave templar, which turns quite nicely into a dual totem sparker around the same point) Either of the health based sparkers can turn into CI eventually if you want them too as well, it just might take more regrets to do if you go late as health.

Ele cleave is way OP and easy to do, LMP freeze pulse same thing. Leap slam only requires resolute tech + a decent 2 hander, then just all defensive gear.


I wasnt really looking at it from the self-found perspective rather than the fact he said he liked minmaxing and being competitive.
Tbh, I think playing self-found and trying to minmax/play competitive is impossible. I think you have to choose one or the other.


Self-found I guess was not the right term. Better would be cheap/budget builds that are achievable with a fresh account.

Thanks everyone for all the responses, I'll check out the builds everyone suggested.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 20:09:53
June 28 2013 20:09 GMT
#9000
Honestly I'm so pumped for this event, it pisses me off that it is only 1 hour. I would prefer to just play Descent-style PoE 100% of the time. (This is how I used to play Diablo 1 when I was kid).
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