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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
December 29 2011 03:04 GMT
#1681
okay, Probably my last question for the day.

Any advice on what to do during peace? I don't really feel like just speeding time up.

So far I have just been doing diplomacy and trade stuff but that is still done at a slow pace due to limitations.

thanks for all the answers today guys.
gg wp
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 29 2011 04:06 GMT
#1682
Trade, build up diplomatic relations, prepare for war, build buildings, build up your navy (if possible), expand your influence, try to get diplo-vassals, set up Personal Unions, colonization, set up Alliances, break up Alliances, etc.
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
December 29 2011 05:12 GMT
#1683
[image loading]

All your France are belong to us.

I am having a lot of fun now, Thanks a ton for the help.
gg wp
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 05:20:26
December 29 2011 05:18 GMT
#1684
Aw fuck son, nice job.

Pro tip for Personal Unions: NEVER use the Integrate function. EVER. Depending on your prestige and relation to them and however low your infamy is, you get a certain % chance, every time their Leader dies, to inherit the country. If you inherit it like that, you get instant cores on ALL of their Provinces. If you use the "Integrate" function, yes, you can get it significantly faster -- but you get all their provinces without cores and nationalism revolt risk. Which is very bad.

But good fucking job. Keep your relations up over 200 with them and you're solid batman. Good job.

EDIT: SHIT SON GET THAT INFAMY DOWN LOL

Get some paintings and get an infamy adviser. Oh shit LOL.

By the way, since I'm already on a roll. Your speeds. x4 for when nothing is happening, x3 for action and pause liberally. The only time I condone x5'ing is if you're a New World / Isolated nation and you got lots of waiting to do.
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
December 29 2011 05:23 GMT
#1685
thanks!

I have been working on the paintings and trying to get an adviser for like 40 years.

I got all the infamy before you said it was bad.

Hopefully I can take care of it soon enough. I am just addicted to Annexing places.

gg wp
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 29 2011 05:24 GMT
#1686
On December 29 2011 14:18 Fruscainte wrote:
Aw fuck son, nice job.

Pro tip for Personal Unions: NEVER use the Integrate function. EVER. Depending on your prestige and relation to them and however low your infamy is, you get a certain % chance, every time their Leader dies, to inherit the country. If you inherit it like that, you get instant cores on ALL of their Provinces. If you use the "Integrate" function, yes, you can get it significantly faster -- but you get all their provinces without cores and nationalism revolt risk. Which is very bad.

But good fucking job. Keep your relations up over 200 with them and you're solid batman. Good job.

EDIT: SHIT SON GET THAT INFAMY DOWN LOL

Get some paintings and get an infamy adviser. Oh shit LOL.

By the way, since I'm already on a roll. Your speeds. x4 for when nothing is happening, x3 for action and pause liberally. The only time I condone x5'ing is if you're a New World / Isolated nation and you got lots of waiting to do.

for pu's, you only get cores on their provinces if they are in the same culture group as you. since france and castille are in different culture groups you will get no cores in this scenario.
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 05:26:43
December 29 2011 05:24 GMT
#1687
Aren't we all

With a 6 star infamy adviser, you easily lose .1 infamy/month so you should be a-okay. With a large nation such as Castille, expand the bureaucracy as well to get +1 more Magistrate/yr

On December 29 2011 14:24 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 14:18 Fruscainte wrote:
Aw fuck son, nice job.

Pro tip for Personal Unions: NEVER use the Integrate function. EVER. Depending on your prestige and relation to them and however low your infamy is, you get a certain % chance, every time their Leader dies, to inherit the country. If you inherit it like that, you get instant cores on ALL of their Provinces. If you use the "Integrate" function, yes, you can get it significantly faster -- but you get all their provinces without cores and nationalism revolt risk. Which is very bad.

But good fucking job. Keep your relations up over 200 with them and you're solid batman. Good job.

EDIT: SHIT SON GET THAT INFAMY DOWN LOL

Get some paintings and get an infamy adviser. Oh shit LOL.

By the way, since I'm already on a roll. Your speeds. x4 for when nothing is happening, x3 for action and pause liberally. The only time I condone x5'ing is if you're a New World / Isolated nation and you got lots of waiting to do.

for pu's, you only get cores on their provinces if they are in the same culture group as you. since france and castille are in different culture groups you will get no cores in this scenario.


Oh is that how it works? I never had PU's outside of my Culture Group (I rarely get them in the first place) so I didn't know!

Speaking of such, other than cores (if they are in your culture group), what purpose is PU's over Vassalation? Vassals give you 50% of their income, whilst PU's do not, if I am not mistaken? Both fight for you no matter what in wars, are in your complete control, and you can eventually annex them. More importantly, Vassals aren't lost if your prestige drops and you don't have to deal with succession wars.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 29 2011 05:26 GMT
#1688
On December 29 2011 14:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Aren't we all

With a 6 star infamy adviser, you easily lose .1 infamy/month so you should be a-okay. With a large nation such as Castille, expand the bureaucracy as well to get +1 more Magistrate/yr

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 14:24 Caller wrote:
On December 29 2011 14:18 Fruscainte wrote:
Aw fuck son, nice job.

Pro tip for Personal Unions: NEVER use the Integrate function. EVER. Depending on your prestige and relation to them and however low your infamy is, you get a certain % chance, every time their Leader dies, to inherit the country. If you inherit it like that, you get instant cores on ALL of their Provinces. If you use the "Integrate" function, yes, you can get it significantly faster -- but you get all their provinces without cores and nationalism revolt risk. Which is very bad.

But good fucking job. Keep your relations up over 200 with them and you're solid batman. Good job.

EDIT: SHIT SON GET THAT INFAMY DOWN LOL

Get some paintings and get an infamy adviser. Oh shit LOL.

By the way, since I'm already on a roll. Your speeds. x4 for when nothing is happening, x3 for action and pause liberally. The only time I condone x5'ing is if you're a New World / Isolated nation and you got lots of waiting to do.

for pu's, you only get cores on their provinces if they are in the same culture group as you. since france and castille are in different culture groups you will get no cores in this scenario.


Oh is that how it works? I never had PU's outside of my Culture Group (I rarely get them in the first place) so I didn't know!

the other thing about integrating is that if your diplo rating sucks it won't go through, and if you do it its just like diploannexing. For shits and giggles in my navarra game i tried integrating france and i got 55 infamy. considering my income was 80% in trade that was really fun.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 29 2011 05:33 GMT
#1689
On December 29 2011 14:26 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 14:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Aren't we all

With a 6 star infamy adviser, you easily lose .1 infamy/month so you should be a-okay. With a large nation such as Castille, expand the bureaucracy as well to get +1 more Magistrate/yr

On December 29 2011 14:24 Caller wrote:
On December 29 2011 14:18 Fruscainte wrote:
Aw fuck son, nice job.

Pro tip for Personal Unions: NEVER use the Integrate function. EVER. Depending on your prestige and relation to them and however low your infamy is, you get a certain % chance, every time their Leader dies, to inherit the country. If you inherit it like that, you get instant cores on ALL of their Provinces. If you use the "Integrate" function, yes, you can get it significantly faster -- but you get all their provinces without cores and nationalism revolt risk. Which is very bad.

But good fucking job. Keep your relations up over 200 with them and you're solid batman. Good job.

EDIT: SHIT SON GET THAT INFAMY DOWN LOL

Get some paintings and get an infamy adviser. Oh shit LOL.

By the way, since I'm already on a roll. Your speeds. x4 for when nothing is happening, x3 for action and pause liberally. The only time I condone x5'ing is if you're a New World / Isolated nation and you got lots of waiting to do.

for pu's, you only get cores on their provinces if they are in the same culture group as you. since france and castille are in different culture groups you will get no cores in this scenario.


Oh is that how it works? I never had PU's outside of my Culture Group (I rarely get them in the first place) so I didn't know!

the other thing about integrating is that if your diplo rating sucks it won't go through, and if you do it its just like diploannexing. For shits and giggles in my navarra game i tried integrating france and i got 55 infamy. considering my income was 80% in trade that was really fun.


I'm just concerned how you went about getting a PU on France.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 29 2011 06:00 GMT
#1690
On December 29 2011 14:33 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 14:26 Caller wrote:
On December 29 2011 14:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Aren't we all

With a 6 star infamy adviser, you easily lose .1 infamy/month so you should be a-okay. With a large nation such as Castille, expand the bureaucracy as well to get +1 more Magistrate/yr

On December 29 2011 14:24 Caller wrote:
On December 29 2011 14:18 Fruscainte wrote:
Aw fuck son, nice job.

Pro tip for Personal Unions: NEVER use the Integrate function. EVER. Depending on your prestige and relation to them and however low your infamy is, you get a certain % chance, every time their Leader dies, to inherit the country. If you inherit it like that, you get instant cores on ALL of their Provinces. If you use the "Integrate" function, yes, you can get it significantly faster -- but you get all their provinces without cores and nationalism revolt risk. Which is very bad.

But good fucking job. Keep your relations up over 200 with them and you're solid batman. Good job.

EDIT: SHIT SON GET THAT INFAMY DOWN LOL

Get some paintings and get an infamy adviser. Oh shit LOL.

By the way, since I'm already on a roll. Your speeds. x4 for when nothing is happening, x3 for action and pause liberally. The only time I condone x5'ing is if you're a New World / Isolated nation and you got lots of waiting to do.

for pu's, you only get cores on their provinces if they are in the same culture group as you. since france and castille are in different culture groups you will get no cores in this scenario.


Oh is that how it works? I never had PU's outside of my Culture Group (I rarely get them in the first place) so I didn't know!

the other thing about integrating is that if your diplo rating sucks it won't go through, and if you do it its just like diploannexing. For shits and giggles in my navarra game i tried integrating france and i got 55 infamy. considering my income was 80% in trade that was really fun.


I'm just concerned how you went about getting a PU on France.

keep in mind this was after i had already annexed the rest of the iberian pennisula through warmongering, then royal marriage with france + good relations + high prestige + alliance + getting france involved in a war + having king of france die in said war with no heir = victory
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 06:07:11
December 29 2011 06:07 GMT
#1691
On December 29 2011 15:00 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 14:33 Fruscainte wrote:
On December 29 2011 14:26 Caller wrote:
On December 29 2011 14:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Aren't we all

With a 6 star infamy adviser, you easily lose .1 infamy/month so you should be a-okay. With a large nation such as Castille, expand the bureaucracy as well to get +1 more Magistrate/yr

On December 29 2011 14:24 Caller wrote:
On December 29 2011 14:18 Fruscainte wrote:
Aw fuck son, nice job.

Pro tip for Personal Unions: NEVER use the Integrate function. EVER. Depending on your prestige and relation to them and however low your infamy is, you get a certain % chance, every time their Leader dies, to inherit the country. If you inherit it like that, you get instant cores on ALL of their Provinces. If you use the "Integrate" function, yes, you can get it significantly faster -- but you get all their provinces without cores and nationalism revolt risk. Which is very bad.

But good fucking job. Keep your relations up over 200 with them and you're solid batman. Good job.

EDIT: SHIT SON GET THAT INFAMY DOWN LOL

Get some paintings and get an infamy adviser. Oh shit LOL.

By the way, since I'm already on a roll. Your speeds. x4 for when nothing is happening, x3 for action and pause liberally. The only time I condone x5'ing is if you're a New World / Isolated nation and you got lots of waiting to do.

for pu's, you only get cores on their provinces if they are in the same culture group as you. since france and castille are in different culture groups you will get no cores in this scenario.


Oh is that how it works? I never had PU's outside of my Culture Group (I rarely get them in the first place) so I didn't know!

the other thing about integrating is that if your diplo rating sucks it won't go through, and if you do it its just like diploannexing. For shits and giggles in my navarra game i tried integrating france and i got 55 infamy. considering my income was 80% in trade that was really fun.


I'm just concerned how you went about getting a PU on France.

keep in mind this was after i had already annexed the rest of the iberian pennisula through warmongering,


You know, I'm not even going to ask.
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
December 29 2011 17:59 GMT
#1692
I got a decent infamy adviser but I got more infamy because I had 100% war score vs 3 nations and I made vassals out of two of them. I couldn't resist.

I now have 4 vassals
gg wp
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 30 2011 06:13 GMT
#1693
So after 250 long years of waiting I finally am Westernized as the Aztecs, control all of Central and parts of Northern/Southern America. I got 80,000 men with cannons and am caught up in tech with a 80 ship large navy. First, North America will be mine.

Then?

Rain or shine Europe, but yo ass is mine.
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
December 30 2011 08:03 GMT
#1694
Did you steal my idea? Either way I am impressed.

May I ask how one accomplishes such a feat?
gg wp
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 30 2011 12:46 GMT
#1695
by careful use of the fast forward button
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 30 2011 16:05 GMT
#1696
On December 30 2011 21:46 turdburgler wrote:
by careful use of the fast forward button


Lots of patience, mainly.

I had to spend 100 years from 1500-1600 before I saw my first European nation, and during that entire time I had the European Disease event that basically gave every province free revolts every other month. I was pretty fucking large. Then I had to deal with Westernization in addition to the fucking Diseases.
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
December 30 2011 17:36 GMT
#1697
so, I've made many mistake on my first run (which is still going).

The biggest problem i face right now is Inflation and fucking rebels EVERYWHERE. I started off with korea, took ryuku early, then took some mayasian shit. I got some lands in pegu and vasalized brunei.

I read some strategy on korea which is bare bones and it said to get unam sanctum first to kill the infedels, but fucking I should have just tried to race trade tech to get quest for the new world. It seems like thats the limiting factor for westernizing because I already have -2 centralism (over the limiter ... damn revolts lol) and -3 innovation. My innovation and confucian teachings gets me negative missionaries so i cant convert these infedels LOL. My stability keep taking hits because of fucking country events. Oh my war exaustion is probably really high right now because i was in war for like 5 years... Revolt % is like 15+ across the board on all my noncore. Even my cores have 4% right now lol.... fuck

Im sitting at at like 8 inflation and its only 1450 or so. If i play it over, i would have a better idea on strategy but, it took me so long to even get here ~_~
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 30 2011 18:54 GMT
#1698
8 inflation?

Holy fuck.

Like I said, start with a European nation like Castille or something to get the ropes of things. Korea is like starting Starcraft and your first game being in Masters League.
Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
December 30 2011 19:16 GMT
#1699
Reading this thread really makes me want to start playing again, I just don't know if I can take one more game of my kings dying on me constantly lol.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
December 30 2011 20:05 GMT
#1700
High do you get higher star advisers besides being random? All of the ones I can buy are the basic 1-star.
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