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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
August 28 2013 21:48 GMT
#8741
Devotion only looks at mana symbols anyway, I don't think there's much if anything in MtG that would mess with it. You could lose Devotion if you turned your Evil Twin into something nonblue, for example.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 00:27:26
August 28 2013 22:29 GMT
#8742
Oh, now I see what you are saying.

Until further update from Wizards:
In your hand it is both a creature and an enchantment, so it is a creature. You do not have to pay 1 extra for Thalia.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 28 2013 22:33 GMT
#8743
On August 29 2013 07:29 iGrok wrote:
Oh, now I see what you are saying.

Until further update from Wizards:
In your hand it is both a creature and an enchantment. You do have to pay 1 extra for Thalia.

Ah but things like Lucent Liminid is treated as both a Creature and an Enchantment at the same time therefore it would not be caught by the Thalia tax or Duress so that makes me thing that Thassa should not.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
August 28 2013 22:36 GMT
#8744
On August 29 2013 07:33 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 07:29 iGrok wrote:
Oh, now I see what you are saying.

Until further update from Wizards:
In your hand it is both a creature and an enchantment. You do have to pay 1 extra for Thalia.

Ah but things like Lucent Liminid is treated as both a Creature and an Enchantment at the same time therefore it would not be caught by the Thalia tax or Duress so that makes me thing that Thassa should not.


Thalia says noncreature spells, Thassa is a creature spell. It's not affected.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 29 2013 00:27 GMT
#8745
On August 29 2013 07:36 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 07:33 MoonBear wrote:
On August 29 2013 07:29 iGrok wrote:
Oh, now I see what you are saying.

Until further update from Wizards:
In your hand it is both a creature and an enchantment. You do have to pay 1 extra for Thalia.

Ah but things like Lucent Liminid is treated as both a Creature and an Enchantment at the same time therefore it would not be caught by the Thalia tax or Duress so that makes me thing that Thassa should not.


Thalia says noncreature spells, Thassa is a creature spell. It's not affected.

I had Thalia backwards, I mixed her up with the one that taxes creature spells.
Editing pot
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FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
August 29 2013 02:05 GMT
#8746
Hmm well just based on the idea of an enchantment heavy block, and emphasis on devotion, I have been looking around, and mainly liked ideas of an enchantment UW control deck. I mean there's sphere of safety, pacifism, detention sphere, and I am sure a few more that are decent, add to that stuff that will come in from theros, could be cool
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
August 29 2013 02:45 GMT
#8747
So I'm bashing away at a modern deck with the goal of coming up with a deck that won't murder my wallet but can reliably compete with various metas, albeit while not being fine tuned to any given one. This is what I've got so far:


Creatures
3 tithe drinker
3 high priest of penance
4 tidehollow sculler
4 nightsky mimic
2 sorin, lord of innistrad

Spells
2 path to exile
3 beckon apparition
3 inquisition of kozilek
3 edge of the divinity
3 zealous persecution
4 lingering souls
2 immortal servitude

Lands
4 godless shrine
4 isolated chapel
1 vault of the archangel
8 swamp
7 plains

Sideboard
3 duress
3 sin collector
3 brave the elements
2 path to exile
2 blind obedience
2 deathbringer liege

The deck doesn't really fit into control/combo/aggro since it does a bit of all three. Heavily messes with an opponent's hand early, beats down with a lot of efficient small creatures that demand removal and has really strong synergies across the board rather than relying on individual card quality. Nightsky Mimic and Edge of the Divinity are two key players along with Immortal Servitude at the 5 drop spot to bring back all my creatures conveniently costed at 2.

There's also a sub theme of token beats, with Lingering Souls, Beckon Apparition and Zealous Persecution, Brave the Elements and Sorin. Sorin's emblem is lethal given the sheer mass of little dudes I can put out, and I can also chump all day and race their 5 drop walkers to ult range.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
August 29 2013 02:51 GMT
#8748
On August 29 2013 11:05 FireSA wrote:
Hmm well just based on the idea of an enchantment heavy block, and emphasis on devotion, I have been looking around, and mainly liked ideas of an enchantment UW control deck. I mean there's sphere of safety, pacifism, detention sphere, and I am sure a few more that are decent, add to that stuff that will come in from theros, could be cool


would definitely like to dabble in a UW enchantment deck when theros is released!

I had some great success with it in a casual m14 draft with 5 other friends. Played only 1 game against each of them only though and went 5-0. Lol... It was a UW splash Blightcaster, was a ton of fun to play. Even got passed a Ajani's Chosen in the final pack and I literally LOLed.

Getting real excited about Theros. Super sweet art, super sweet looking block.
Pull
Profile Joined April 2010
United States308 Posts
August 29 2013 03:21 GMT
#8749
I'm streaming mono red if anyone wants to tune in...twitch.tv/pullsc

just thought i'd let you know!
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 29 2013 05:17 GMT
#8750
Shotcoder hows the testing coming along?
Get it by your hands...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 06:07:19
August 29 2013 05:22 GMT
#8751
On August 29 2013 14:17 Judicator wrote:
Shotcoder hows the testing coming along?


It's been better, I finally have a 75 I am happy with. I'm still iffy on my Jund match-up but I'm confident in anything else.

Edit: I went from

Last weeks version
+ Show Spoiler +
//Artifact (1)
1 Rakdos Keyrune

//Creature (13)
2 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
4 Boros Reckoner
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
2 Olivia Voldaren
4 Vampire Nighthawk

//Instant (7)
2 Doom Blade
2 Searing Spear
3 Warleader's Helix

//Planeswalker (6)
3 Liliana of the Veil
3 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

//Sorcery (8)
3 Dreadbore
2 Mizzium Mortars
3 Pillar of Flame

//Land (25)
4 Blood Crypt
4 Clifftop Retreat
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sacred Foundry
1 Slayers' Stronghold

SB: 2 Appetite for Brains
SB: 2 Assemble the Legion
SB: 1 Barter in Blood
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 2 Rest in Peace
SB: 3 Sin Collector
SB: 2 Slaughter Games
SB: 1 Oblivion Ring


To this newer version.

+ Show Spoiler +
//Artifact (1)
1 Rakdos Keyrune

//Creature (15)
4 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
4 Boros Reckoner
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
2 Olivia Voldaren
4 Vampire Nighthawk

//Instant (6)
3 Doom Blade
3 Warleader's Helix

//Planeswalker (5)
3 Liliana of the Veil
2 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

//Sorcery (8)
3 Dreadbore
3 Pillar of Flame
2 Rakdos's Return

//Land (25)
4 Blood Crypt
3 Clifftop Retreat
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sacred Foundry
2 Slayers' Stronghold

SB: 2 Appetite for Brains
SB: 2 Assemble the Legion
SB: 2 Devour Flesh
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Ratchet Bomb
SB: 2 Rest in Peace
SB: 2 Slaughter Games
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27157 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 13:01:00
August 29 2013 10:43 GMT
#8752
This isn't the greatest card by any means, but it was fun to crack a pack and get the regular and foil version of the same card.

[image loading]

My main problem now is that in order to play, I need to buy online, but Iove the collection aspect as well. I'm addicted to that new card smell. In other news, my wife is drawing up divorce papers I think.
ModeratorGodfather
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 29 2013 12:40 GMT
#8753
Mmm that new card smell

Hopefully that last sentence is a joke about coming back to your Magic hobby. Otherwise
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27157 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 13:01:15
August 29 2013 12:56 GMT
#8754
Exact quotes when I tried to explain the game last night:

A: "So it is like Yugio then?" Obviously I replied with all the indignation a BW player uses when responding to a supporter of minesweeper.

B: "i can't believe what a geek you are." To which I had no response.

My shivan will keep me warm at night.
ModeratorGodfather
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
August 29 2013 13:26 GMT
#8755
Is the divorce action still on the stack? You could always counter it with a Cancel.

[image loading]


Wat. :-o
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
August 29 2013 14:46 GMT
#8756
On August 29 2013 22:26 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Is the divorce action still on the stack? You could always counter it with a Cancel.

[image loading]


Wat. :-o


Divorce papers don't resolve until both players pass back priority. but if it's anything like Risk, you should have let go of Asia a long time ago.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 29 2013 15:25 GMT
#8757
On August 29 2013 22:26 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Is the divorce action still on the stack? You could always counter it with a Cancel.

[image loading]


Wat. :-o


Not as good as it looks. Red/White color combo and they left off the most potent keyword, Haste. It's certainly playable, but more niche than you think, looks awful on the draw.
Get it by your hands...
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 15:27:58
August 29 2013 15:27 GMT
#8758
On August 29 2013 14:22 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:17 Judicator wrote:
Shotcoder hows the testing coming along?


It's been better, I finally have a 75 I am happy with. I'm still iffy on my Jund match-up but I'm confident in anything else.

Edit: I went from

Last weeks version
+ Show Spoiler +
//Artifact (1)
1 Rakdos Keyrune

//Creature (13)
2 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
4 Boros Reckoner
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
2 Olivia Voldaren
4 Vampire Nighthawk

//Instant (7)
2 Doom Blade
2 Searing Spear
3 Warleader's Helix

//Planeswalker (6)
3 Liliana of the Veil
3 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

//Sorcery (8)
3 Dreadbore
2 Mizzium Mortars
3 Pillar of Flame

//Land (25)
4 Blood Crypt
4 Clifftop Retreat
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sacred Foundry
1 Slayers' Stronghold

SB: 2 Appetite for Brains
SB: 2 Assemble the Legion
SB: 1 Barter in Blood
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 2 Rest in Peace
SB: 3 Sin Collector
SB: 2 Slaughter Games
SB: 1 Oblivion Ring


To this newer version.

+ Show Spoiler +
//Artifact (1)
1 Rakdos Keyrune

//Creature (15)
4 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
4 Boros Reckoner
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
2 Olivia Voldaren
4 Vampire Nighthawk

//Instant (6)
3 Doom Blade
3 Warleader's Helix

//Planeswalker (5)
3 Liliana of the Veil
2 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

//Sorcery (8)
3 Dreadbore
3 Pillar of Flame
2 Rakdos's Return

//Land (25)
4 Blood Crypt
3 Clifftop Retreat
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sacred Foundry
2 Slayers' Stronghold

SB: 2 Appetite for Brains
SB: 2 Assemble the Legion
SB: 2 Devour Flesh
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Ratchet Bomb
SB: 2 Rest in Peace
SB: 2 Slaughter Games


Whats the Pillar for? Voice? It doesn't look like your deck should struggle with Voice. I would be more inclined to just leave that card alone and let it dink me for 2 every turn.

Edit:

Didn't mean to double post.
Get it by your hands...
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 29 2013 15:59 GMT
#8759
I honestly thought I was missing some marriage pun with that card -.- doh.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 18:02:24
August 29 2013 18:00 GMT
#8760
On August 30 2013 00:27 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:22 Shotcoder wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:17 Judicator wrote:
Shotcoder hows the testing coming along?


It's been better, I finally have a 75 I am happy with. I'm still iffy on my Jund match-up but I'm confident in anything else.

Edit: I went from

Last weeks version
+ Show Spoiler +
//Artifact (1)
1 Rakdos Keyrune

//Creature (13)
2 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
4 Boros Reckoner
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
2 Olivia Voldaren
4 Vampire Nighthawk

//Instant (7)
2 Doom Blade
2 Searing Spear
3 Warleader's Helix

//Planeswalker (6)
3 Liliana of the Veil
3 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

//Sorcery (8)
3 Dreadbore
2 Mizzium Mortars
3 Pillar of Flame

//Land (25)
4 Blood Crypt
4 Clifftop Retreat
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sacred Foundry
1 Slayers' Stronghold

SB: 2 Appetite for Brains
SB: 2 Assemble the Legion
SB: 1 Barter in Blood
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 2 Rest in Peace
SB: 3 Sin Collector
SB: 2 Slaughter Games
SB: 1 Oblivion Ring


To this newer version.

+ Show Spoiler +
//Artifact (1)
1 Rakdos Keyrune

//Creature (15)
4 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
4 Boros Reckoner
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
2 Olivia Voldaren
4 Vampire Nighthawk

//Instant (6)
3 Doom Blade
3 Warleader's Helix

//Planeswalker (5)
3 Liliana of the Veil
2 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad

//Sorcery (8)
3 Dreadbore
3 Pillar of Flame
2 Rakdos's Return

//Land (25)
4 Blood Crypt
3 Clifftop Retreat
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Sacred Foundry
2 Slayers' Stronghold

SB: 2 Appetite for Brains
SB: 2 Assemble the Legion
SB: 2 Devour Flesh
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Ratchet Bomb
SB: 2 Rest in Peace
SB: 2 Slaughter Games


Whats the Pillar for? Voice? It doesn't look like your deck should struggle with Voice. I would be more inclined to just leave that card alone and let it dink me for 2 every turn.

Edit:

Didn't mean to double post.


Voice, Necromancer, Strangleroot Geist, Huntsmaster, Oozes with no targets, Messenger, it's there for so much.

Edit: Chandra's Phoenix too
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
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