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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
Beat the decks I wanted to beat, lost to the decks I didnt really prepare for well. Here's the list I ended up running + Show Spoiler + //Artifact (1) 1 Rakdos Keyrune //Creature (13) 2 Blood Baron of Vizkopa 4 Boros Reckoner 1 Obzedat, Ghost Council 2 Olivia Voldaren 4 Vampire Nighthawk //Instant (7) 2 Doom Blade 2 Searing Spear 3 Warleader's Helix //Planeswalker (6) 3 Liliana of the Veil 3 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad //Sorcery (8) 3 Dreadbore 2 Mizzium Mortars 3 Pillar of Flame //Land (25) 4 Blood Crypt 4 Clifftop Retreat 4 Dragonskull Summit 4 Godless Shrine 4 Isolated Chapel 4 Sacred Foundry 1 Slayers' Stronghold SB: 2 Appetite for Brains SB: 2 Assemble the Legion SB: 1 Barter in Blood SB: 2 Duress SB: 2 Rest in Peace SB: 3 Sin Collector SB: 2 Slaughter Games SB: 1 Oblivion Ring Edit2: I want to add more game against the other midrange decks. As I crush anything aggro(except Hexproof) and can pretty easily take games 2 and 3 off control if I play correctly. Which makes me think I need 1-2 more Blood BArons and possibly even Rakdos Return. I had a huge issue against jund today and Idk if it was poor draws, bad deck building, bad plays, or just a bad match-up(I only played it once but I could tell I would get shit on by it any other time I played against it too). BG feels winnable, and I should have probably won that game but I misplayed with an Appetite and also kept a poor hand game 3. Hexproof can just go fuck itself. 0-1(0-2) vs Hex Proof 1-0(2-0) vs 4C Control(bad deck) 1-0(2-1) vs Esper Control 1-0(2-0) vs UG Evolve(wtf is this doing at 2-1? I didn't get paired down) 0-1(1-2) vs BG Midrange 2-0(4-0) vs RG (Kibler's list is a joke to me) 0-1(0-2) vs Jund(Fuck Rakdos Return) Mortars seemed poor in my deck, Doom blade and Dread bore essentially hit everything. Pillar was meh all day, probably move 1 to the side to bring in vs Humans and GW I didn't see the Keyrune enough to justify it being there and might get cut. Slayer's stronghold is insane. Helped me race RG with Nighthawk vs Hellkites stabilizing me at 1 two matches in a row. I'm actually not scared of Burning earth, I had it played twice against me on turn 4, but it's usually with the board being open and me having Blood Baron or Obzedat or Nighthawk in hand. Warleader's Helix might become 4 as well | ||
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Zeller
United States1109 Posts
For instance if I gained 1 life, then my opponent would lose a total of 2 life, losing 1 life for each Sanguine Bond? Sanguine Bond - http://magiccards.info/m14/en/112.html | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
All said, great weekend. | ||
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
On August 25 2013 20:55 deth2munkies wrote: Went to FNM and Saturday MM draft in my new town. Between the two tournaments I only dropped one game. Played my old naya deck in standard and beat 2 Rakdos decks (one much better than the other), RG aggro, and UWR control. Drafted probably the sickest B/W Rebels deck ever (I'll post the list later) and ended up cracking a Voice in the packs I got as a prize. All said, great weekend. Grats! My buddies and I went to a new store for FNM, they were giving out FTV20 to first place as a promotional thing. I threw my chances R2 with a couple horrible misplays, but my friend who runs a modified version of Craig Wescoe's WW took first! Pretty epic 1st place if you ask me. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
Is it because they expect to farseek into a 4 drop every game? | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
Edit: I'm also looking to go to Cincinnati this weekend but I'd like to solidify my deck before I go. My mana base I am more than happy with after my changes since I wanted a second Slayers' Stronghold. Past that I have no idea what is correct to fix my match-up against Bant Auras and Jund while keeping my RG, Artistocrats, BW Humans, UWR and Esper match-ups where they are. I've already made room for another Blood Baron and 2 Rakdos's Returns but I'm almost sold on cutting searing spears for another doom blade and Helix. Even contemplated if 4 Blood Barons was the right call. Idk but I have 3 open slots to work with on the main. + Show Spoiler + //Creature (14) 3 Blood Baron of Vizkopa 4 Boros Reckoner 1 Obzedat, Ghost Council 2 Olivia Voldaren 4 Vampire Nighthawk //Instant (6) 3 Doom Blade 3 Warleader's Helix //Planeswalker (5) 3 Liliana of the Veil 2 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad //Sorcery (7) 3 Dreadbore 2 Rakdos's Return 2 Pillar of Flame //Land (25) 4 Blood Crypt 3 Clifftop Retreat 4 Dragonskull Summit 4 Godless Shrine 4 Isolated Chapel 4 Sacred Foundry 2 Slayers' Stronghold I cut the spears, a pillar, a Sorin, and the mortars I added a Doom Blade, a Blood Baron, 2 rakdos's return which leave two slots. The sideboard also feels bad. SO much hand disruption when I don't even particularly want another 3 drop with sin collector. Lilianna is already there and I guess Nighthawk would be the only one to come out vs things like esper and UB but at that point Durress/Appetite and Slaughter games has to be more than enough. I have yet to bring in rest in peace, It's there for Aristocrats, Junk, and Snapcaster decks. But after actually sitting down and playing I dont know how much I care about those things. Against Aristocrats blood artist and Necromancer shouldn't even stay . I play enough removal that Junk shouldnt even be a problem, just a long grinding game where I should eventually come out ahead. And snapcaster decks like UB and Esper aren't really a thing if they can't favorably target your dudes(Blood Baron and Obzedat). With the extra help against mid range and control decks with Rakdos's Return(If I can pull then trigger at the right time) and the Blood Baron I should be able to lose the Assembles in the board as well. But idk if I should because BG is a thing now and they have almost no answers to the card since they shouldnt be bringing in Curse's vs me anyways. I think I need more answers to Bant in my board, less answers to decks I'm already 50/50 or 60/40 against. SO I was thinking of + Show Spoiler + 2 Assemble the Legion(another Jund answer, BG, and Control) 2 Appetite for brains 2 Duress 2 Slaughter Games(Sphinx's revelation) 2 Ratchet bomb(Bant, BW humans, Aristocrats, Boros Humans) 2 Devour flesh(bant Hexproof) 2 Underworld Connections 1 Pillar of Flame I think this is better, and maybe I'm wrong for cutting the Rest in Peaces for Underworld Connections but I honestly don't know where to go with my last 3 sideboard slots. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27157 Posts
Ive got a few physical cards from the ravnia block, but will mostly be playing online. Feel free to add me, same name as here. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On August 26 2013 09:23 Shotcoder wrote: Even with Lilianna the deck should be more than fine against RG. At least I would think so. Edit: I'm also looking to go to Cincinnati this weekend but I'd like to solidify my deck before I go. My mana base I am more than happy with after my changes since I wanted a second Slayers' Stronghold. Past that I have no idea what is correct to fix my match-up against Bant Auras and Jund while keeping my RG, Artistocrats, BW Humans, UWR and Esper match-ups where they are. I've already made room for another Blood Baron and 2 Rakdos's Returns but I'm almost sold on cutting searing spears for another doom blade and Helix. Even contemplated if 4 Blood Barons was the right call. Idk but I have 3 open slots to work with on the main. + Show Spoiler + //Creature (14) 3 Blood Baron of Vizkopa 4 Boros Reckoner 1 Obzedat, Ghost Council 2 Olivia Voldaren 4 Vampire Nighthawk //Instant (6) 3 Doom Blade 3 Warleader's Helix //Planeswalker (5) 3 Liliana of the Veil 2 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad //Sorcery (7) 3 Dreadbore 2 Rakdos's Return 2 Pillar of Flame //Land (25) 4 Blood Crypt 3 Clifftop Retreat 4 Dragonskull Summit 4 Godless Shrine 4 Isolated Chapel 4 Sacred Foundry 2 Slayers' Stronghold I cut the spears, a pillar, a Sorin, and the mortars I added a Doom Blade, a Blood Baron, 2 rakdos's return which leave two slots. The sideboard also feels bad. SO much hand disruption when I don't even particularly want another 3 drop with sin collector. Lilianna is already there and I guess Nighthawk would be the only one to come out vs things like esper and UB but at that point Durress/Appetite and Slaughter games has to be more than enough. I have yet to bring in rest in peace, It's there for Aristocrats, Junk, and Snapcaster decks. But after actually sitting down and playing I dont know how much I care about those things. Against Aristocrats blood artist and Necromancer shouldn't even stay . I play enough removal that Junk shouldnt even be a problem, just a long grinding game where I should eventually come out ahead. And snapcaster decks like UB and Esper aren't really a thing if they can't favorably target your dudes(Blood Baron and Obzedat). With the extra help against mid range and control decks with Rakdos's Return(If I can pull then trigger at the right time) and the Blood Baron I should be able to lose the Assembles in the board as well. But idk if I should because BG is a thing now and they have almost no answers to the card since they shouldnt be bringing in Curse's vs me anyways. I think I need more answers to Bant in my board, less answers to decks I'm already 50/50 or 60/40 against. SO I was thinking of + Show Spoiler + 2 Assemble the Legion(another Jund answer, BG, and Control) 2 Appetite for brains 2 Duress 2 Slaughter Games(Sphinx's revelation) 2 Ratchet bomb(Bant, BW humans, Aristocrats, Boros Humans) 2 Devour flesh(bant Hexproof) 2 Underworld Connections 1 Pillar of Flame I think this is better, and maybe I'm wrong for cutting the Rest in Peaces for Underworld Connections but I honestly don't know where to go with my last 3 sideboard slots. Lily does next to nothing against RG and mono R. Its just a 3 cmc sorcery speed edict. Its even mediocre against some control where you might not want to pitch post-board since presumably you have far less dead cards against the control decks. I think I have won more games against Jund players not understanding that Lily requires you to get ahead at some point since you dont have a way to break the symmetry until she gets 6. @mani draft is probably the best place for you to start, as well as updating yourself with the rule changes as there are quite a few significant ones for returning players pre-m10. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On August 26 2013 13:50 Judicator wrote: Lily does next to nothing against RG and mono R. Its just a 3 cmc sorcery speed edict. Its even mediocre against some control where you might not want to pitch post-board since presumably you have far less dead cards against the control decks. I think I have won more games against Jund players not understanding that Lily requires you to get ahead at some point since you dont have a way to break the symmetry until she gets 6. @mani draft is probably the best place for you to start, as well as updating yourself with the rule changes as there are quite a few significant ones for returning players pre-m10. Lily's -6 is a newb trap. I watched at least 3 GB mirrors this weekend go to the person against Lily simply because of bad splits when they should have just kept ticking her up to maintain their advantage or let her sit there as a removal spell. | ||
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EMIYA
United States433 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On August 26 2013 14:11 EMIYA wrote: cut sorins completely--he sucks. anything can be better, hell even bonfire. I will respectfully disagree with this, He was out of my list for 1 event which ended awfully and was immediately put back in. | ||
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
On August 26 2013 14:11 EMIYA wrote: cut sorins completely--he sucks. anything can be better, hell even bonfire. Sorin can be incredible. Can't say I've seen him in this shell, but I've seen him in a couple of archetypes and he is definitely worth his slots. Have you thought about celestial flare in the board to deal with bant hexproof? I have 2 slotted in my UWR for just that, and they ALWAYS pay off if I end up drawing them. Got super lucky the other night and had both in hand by turn 4, and just cleared the board and allowed my archangel to takeover. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On August 26 2013 14:30 Audemed wrote: Sorin can be incredible. Can't say I've seen him in this shell, but I've seen him in a couple of archetypes and he is definitely worth his slots. Have you thought about celestial flare in the board to deal with bant hexproof? I have 2 slotted in my UWR for just that, and they ALWAYS pay off if I end up drawing them. Got super lucky the other night and had both in hand by turn 4, and just cleared the board and allowed my archangel to takeover. This is actually something I didn't even consider. Double White seem like an issue with 15 White lands? Devour Flesh is what I used before but then you have to remove the mana dork before it's actually relevant. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On August 26 2013 14:52 caelym wrote: is a resolved blood moon straight up gg if you're not playing mono-colored? how would you play around it? I ask because I'm thinking of running jund in modern but don't want to autolose vs red. It's not autolose, this is why you run basics and leave fetches uncracked until you need them. You crack the fetches in response to search up your basics. If you don't play around it then yes it can be gg. This is also why you run Thoughtseize, Inquisition and duress(not so much duress though since it can't hit magus of the moon). | ||
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
On August 26 2013 14:45 Shotcoder wrote: This is actually something I didn't even consider. Double White seem like an issue with 15 White lands? Devour Flesh is what I used before but then you have to remove the mana dork before it's actually relevant. Double anything can always be an issue by turn 3, but provided you don't take a hand with no white, it's usually not an issue. That said, there's times where games will go and I won't get double blue for 12 turns off a 3 land start. Shit happens, it's magic....I'd give flare a shot. | ||
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