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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
February 17 2013 19:49 GMT
#6041
Did conley ever play his deck on camera? I would like to see it in action; I only saw the deck tech.
I can already see the ending
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 17 2013 19:50 GMT
#6042
On February 18 2013 04:49 DCLXVI wrote:
Did conley ever play his deck on camera? I would like to see it in action; I only saw the deck tech.

There was his Round 5 (I think) game v Wafo-Tapa in the featured match area. There's also a short write up on the Mothership.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2013 20:31 GMT
#6043
Must. Be. Nice.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 17 2013 22:04 GMT
#6044
On February 18 2013 04:49 DCLXVI wrote:
Did conley ever play his deck on camera? I would like to see it in action; I only saw the deck tech.

The "black by popular demand" deck? I saw him play... I think 3 games, and all I remember is him slowly but surely losing life. Quite a bit of the life loss being from Sign in Blood and Underworld Connections. If the deck actually does something, it seems to be really inconsistent.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 17 2013 23:14 GMT
#6045
You mean if the deck can actually flare without relying on a creature.

People really just need to stop with MB, the game against GWT was hilarious, cast all the spells you need to cast and still lose when any other deck running those same cards would have just won handily from there.

Speaking of which, it use to be that the people on MWS who played Jund were competent, then comes these netdeckers who can cast not 1 but 2 Rakdos's Return and still lose because its like lets dump more cards into the field and lose to Verdict. GJ kiddies.
Get it by your hands...
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 23:46:09
February 17 2013 23:43 GMT
#6046
So week 1 is over, went a lot better than I thought it would only losing 2 close matches, one to a dimir mirror match and one to an orzhov. As it's the start of week 2 I was able to buy 2 more packs last night, unsure of where to really go I went with 2x GTC, up dated card pool listed below.
+ Show Spoiler +
Black:
1x Contaminated Ground
2x Horror of the Dim
2x Wight of Precinct Six
1x Corpse Blockade
1x Rise from the Grave
1x Syndicate Enforcer
1x Midnight Recovery
1x Devour Flesh
2x Death's Approach
1x Smog Elemental
2x Shadow Slice
3x Grisly Spectacle
3x Gutter Skulk
2x Balustrade Spy
1x Shadow Alley Denizen

Blue:
3x Totally Lost
3x Last Thoughts
1x Mindeye Drake
1x Sage's Row Denizen
1x Jace's Phantasm
1x Welkin Tern
1x Vedalken Entrancer
1x Voidwalk
1x Clinging Anemones
1x Metropolis Sprite
1x Cloudfin Raptor
1x Sapphire Drake
1x Incursion Specialist
1x Scatter Arc

Green:
2x Adaptive Snapjaw
1x Tower Defense
2x Miming Slime
1x Predator's Rapport
1x Disciple of the Old Ways
1x Ivy Lane Denizen
1x Verdant Haven
1x Spire Tracer

Red:
4x Skinbrand Goblin
1x Five-Alarm Fire
1x Tin Street Market
1x Massive Raid
1x Homing Lightning
1x Structural Collaspe
1x Madcap Skills

White:
2x Holy Mantle
1x Smite
3x Assault Griffin
1x Guildscorn Ward
1x Dutiful Thrull
1x Angelic Edict
1x Court Street Denizen
1x Aerial Maneuver
1x Boros Elite

Multi-Color:
1x Bane Alley Broker
2x Deathcult Rogue
1x Mortus Strider
1x Duskmantle Guildmage
1x Consuming Aberration
3x Dinrova Horror
3x Paranoid Delusions
1x Whispering Madness
2x Coerced Confession
1x Hydroform
1x Zameck Guildmage
1x Elusive Krasis
1x Fathom Mage
2x Skyknight Legionnaire
1x Skarrg Guildmage
1x Threasury Thrull
1x Orzhov Charm
1x Ground Assault
1x Signal the Clans
1x Vizkopa Guildmage

Artifacts:
2x Dimir Keyrune
1x Skyblinder Staff
1x Razortip Whip
1x Armored Transport

Lands:
1x Simic Guildgate
1x Orzhov Guildgate
1x Boros Guildgate
1x Dimir Guildgate
1x Gruul Guildgate


So I made a few changes to my last week deck. Below is the new deck list that I've currently play testing. Suggestions welcomed.
+ Show Spoiler +

Deck:
Lands: 25
14x Swamp
10x Island
1x Dimir Guildgate

Monsters: 21
1x Jace's Phantasm
1x Cloudfin Raptor
1x Duskmantle Guildmage
1x Welkin Tern
2x Wight of Precinct Six
1x Bane Ally Broker
2x Deathcult Rogue
2x Balutstrade Spy
1x Syndicate Enforcer
3x Dinrova Horror
1x Sapphire Drake
1x Consuming Aberration
1x Smog Elemental
1x Sage's Row Denizen
1x Mindeye Drake
1x Metropolis Sprite

Spells: 14
2x Death's Approach
1x Devour Flesh
3x Grisly Spectacle
1x Shadow Slice
1x Totally Lost
2x Last Thoughts
1x Rise from the Grave
1x Scatter Arc
2x Dimir Keyrune
1x Voidwalk


Do you think there is enough quality in my card pool to reasonable justify splashing white?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 18 2013 04:57 GMT
#6047
So, is an RGB aggro setup viable at all, or does that color combo only work out midrange? I mean, I'm not looking to go to Pro Tour with this, I'm thinking local stuff, so probably some great decks, but not automatically amazing players, or perfect decks.

iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
February 18 2013 05:20 GMT
#6048
On February 18 2013 08:14 Judicator wrote:
You mean if the deck can actually flare without relying on a creature.

People really just need to stop with MB, the game against GWT was hilarious, cast all the spells you need to cast and still lose when any other deck running those same cards would have just won handily from there.

Speaking of which, it use to be that the people on MWS who played Jund were competent, then comes these netdeckers who can cast not 1 but 2 Rakdos's Return and still lose because its like lets dump more cards into the field and lose to Verdict. GJ kiddies.

God I know. I had a guy dump two reckoners on the field when I was showing American Control. Verdict.
Next turn he plays noble, noble, Silverblade. Snap into Verdict 2. GG
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
February 18 2013 06:04 GMT
#6049
On February 17 2013 07:34 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 07:16 iGrok wrote:
On February 17 2013 06:26 MoonBear wrote:
On February 17 2013 06:21 Judicator wrote:
Wafo Tapo has to be playing the most expensive Esper deck. Ever.

I swear he can't actually own all those cards. He's got to have borrowed some of them from friends or a dealer. Otherwise that deck would cost more than some Legacy decks do @.@

Where can I find his decklist?

It's an Esper Control deck. The actual card choice aren't anything special. It's just that... the entire deck is foil.


How do you not think its his deck? When i was playing a lot back a few years ago, I had all beta land with my all foil deck. Its easily possible to have an all foil deck.
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
February 18 2013 07:32 GMT
#6050
Working on a Bant Minions deck. It needs a couple things.

1) Cut two cards.
2) An answer for Humanimator Combo
3) A better name than Bant Minions lol
+ Show Spoiler [Decklist] +

4 Champion of the Parish
4 Boros Elite
3 Immortal Servitude
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Sphinx's Revelation
2 Supreme Verdict
1 Touch of the Eternal
4 Azorius Charm
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Glacial Fortress
1 Island
1 Plains
2 Mass Appeal
4 Doomed Traveler
4 Gavony Township
1 Sunpetal Grove
3 Temple Garden
4 Farseek
4 Breeding Pool
4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
SB: 4 Detention Sphere
SB: 3 Negate
SB: 3 Essence Scatter
SB: 2 Hinterland Harbor
SB: 3 Garruk, Primal Hunter
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NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
February 18 2013 07:47 GMT
#6051
On February 18 2013 13:57 JingleHell wrote:
So, is an RGB aggro setup viable at all, or does that color combo only work out midrange? I mean, I'm not looking to go to Pro Tour with this, I'm thinking local stuff, so probably some great decks, but not automatically amazing players, or perfect decks.



From what I've seen it's more solid as Midrange, can be made to work as aggro but you are probably better off with just Red Deck Wins that splashes one extra color for more consistency in comparison.
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
February 18 2013 08:46 GMT
#6052
so ,the guy who designed thragtusk did the boros reckoner, except on acid this time?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 18 2013 10:00 GMT
#6053
Maybe it's because I've gotten into modern, but the card isn't that good...

When you say RGB do you mean Jund or RUG?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
February 18 2013 11:02 GMT
#6054
On February 18 2013 13:57 JingleHell wrote:
So, is an RGB aggro setup viable at all, or does that color combo only work out midrange? I mean, I'm not looking to go to Pro Tour with this, I'm thinking local stuff, so probably some great decks, but not automatically amazing players, or perfect decks.



Yes, it's viable. The problem is that it requires quite an expensive manabase to use, so you might not be able to do it. It's seen play in tournaments recently. Here's an example of the deck: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=53102
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 18 2013 15:02 GMT
#6055
On February 18 2013 15:04 lightrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 07:34 MoonBear wrote:
On February 17 2013 07:16 iGrok wrote:
On February 17 2013 06:26 MoonBear wrote:
On February 17 2013 06:21 Judicator wrote:
Wafo Tapo has to be playing the most expensive Esper deck. Ever.

I swear he can't actually own all those cards. He's got to have borrowed some of them from friends or a dealer. Otherwise that deck would cost more than some Legacy decks do @.@

Where can I find his decklist?

It's an Esper Control deck. The actual card choice aren't anything special. It's just that... the entire deck is foil.


How do you not think its his deck? When i was playing a lot back a few years ago, I had all beta land with my all foil deck. Its easily possible to have an all foil deck.


Wafo was banned and only recently came back. I mean I would totally hoard all Esper foils for a deck that may or may not exist 2 years ahead of time.
Get it by your hands...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 18 2013 15:10 GMT
#6056
On February 18 2013 20:02 Salivanth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 13:57 JingleHell wrote:
So, is an RGB aggro setup viable at all, or does that color combo only work out midrange? I mean, I'm not looking to go to Pro Tour with this, I'm thinking local stuff, so probably some great decks, but not automatically amazing players, or perfect decks.



Yes, it's viable. The problem is that it requires quite an expensive manabase to use, so you might not be able to do it. It's seen play in tournaments recently. Here's an example of the deck: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=53102


Awesome, thanks. That looks both better than I was afraid, and worse than I was hoping, regarding difficulty to put together.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 15:30:31
February 18 2013 15:24 GMT
#6057
On February 18 2013 16:32 iGrok wrote:
Working on a Bant Minions deck. It needs a couple things.

1) Cut two cards.
2) An answer for Humanimator Combo
3) A better name than Bant Minions lol
+ Show Spoiler [Decklist] +

4 Champion of the Parish
4 Boros Elite
3 Immortal Servitude
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Sphinx's Revelation
2 Supreme Verdict
1 Touch of the Eternal
4 Azorius Charm
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Glacial Fortress
1 Island
1 Plains
2 Mass Appeal
4 Doomed Traveler
4 Gavony Township
1 Sunpetal Grove
3 Temple Garden
4 Farseek
4 Breeding Pool
4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
SB: 4 Detention Sphere
SB: 3 Negate
SB: 3 Essence Scatter
SB: 2 Hinterland Harbor
SB: 3 Garruk, Primal Hunter

Really would like some thoughts on this, so here's a decklist for the lazy

Honestly if I played 4 mass appeal, I might be able to get away with 70 cards in a standard deck. Its just stupid good in bant humans (3 mana draw 5+ usually), and running more 2drop humans would give me more flexibility with Immortal Servitude...
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 18 2013 15:30 GMT
#6058
Your link isn't working for me. Although, odds are, my advice wouldn't work for you, so let's call it even?

http://deckstats.net/deck-1985570-28b4e3484934039c92873bd88213179d.html

That's the one I was thinking about putting together last night, before getting the Experiment Jund list. Although I think my curve was shit and my Instant/Sorceries had a little too much "Ooh shiny" and a little too little "Here's why" to it.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
February 18 2013 15:37 GMT
#6059
On February 19 2013 00:30 JingleHell wrote:
Your link isn't working for me. Although, odds are, my advice wouldn't work for you, so let's call it even?

http://deckstats.net/deck-1985570-28b4e3484934039c92873bd88213179d.html

That's the one I was thinking about putting together last night, before getting the Experiment Jund list. Although I think my curve was shit and my Instant/Sorceries had a little too much "Ooh shiny" and a little too little "Here's why" to it.

My link should work now.

I've never gotten Jarad to work. I would trade him for two more rampagers
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
February 18 2013 15:42 GMT
#6060
On February 19 2013 00:37 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 00:30 JingleHell wrote:
Your link isn't working for me. Although, odds are, my advice wouldn't work for you, so let's call it even?

http://deckstats.net/deck-1985570-28b4e3484934039c92873bd88213179d.html

That's the one I was thinking about putting together last night, before getting the Experiment Jund list. Although I think my curve was shit and my Instant/Sorceries had a little too much "Ooh shiny" and a little too little "Here's why" to it.

My link should work now.

I've never gotten Jarad to work. I would trade him for two more rampagers


Yeah, your link works. Out of curiosity, what was the plan to actually kill your opponent?

Jarad I'm definitely less than sure about, my main thought for him was to give me a cheap bomb against another creature-centric deck if I'm having to trade a lot.

How does the list look as far as ability to at least take some matches? Like, would it get me anywhere in a local standard tournament, or is it too weak/slow/something?
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