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Too much Bayern Love in this thread right now. Currently I don't think they're playing that magnificent, I don't watch too much Bundesliga, Only the occasional big Game, but from what I've read they are struggling. I'll judge them when the get robben back.
Chelsea I don't think can concentrate on both the champs league and PL at the same Time (see Last year.) Right now they are dominating the PL tho so if they can do that in the champs league it would be very impressive given how old they are, and lol at drogba being suspended again.
Arsenal (GUNNERS WOOO) played like Sweetly flowing honey. Was unbelievably fun to watch. Braga isn't the strongest Team but they arent any Push overs having beat Sevilla twice to qualify. I'm going to judge them by their PL play because their group is too weak to see how they play against very tough opposition. But all i can say is CESC is BACK fucking beatifull and any one is dumb for thinking he'll leave Anytime soon, Barca already tried twice and got rejected .
And I almost forgot to mention are injury list is longer than the fucking nile and we're still playing golden. Arsenal to the finals easy. (ok well not easy but too the finals  )
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real madrid is going to win... awesome coach + ozil = pwnage
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On September 16 2010 05:37 sixfour wrote:
so, if we want to know how rangers/celtic would do in the EPL, rangers would go down as parking the bus for 90 minutes every game won't get you enough points to stay up, and celtic would also go down as arsenal can rape a side better than them 6-0
wow very bitter
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On September 16 2010 14:31 MadVillain wrote:Too much Bayern Love in this thread right now. Currently I don't think they're playing that magnificent, I don't watch too much Bundesliga, Only the occasional big Game, but from what I've read they are struggling. I'll judge them when the get robben back. Chelsea I don't think can concentrate on both the champs league and PL at the same Time (see Last year.) Right now they are dominating the PL tho so if they can do that in the champs league it would be very impressive given how old they are, and lol at drogba being suspended again. Arsenal (GUNNERS WOOO) played like Sweetly flowing honey. Was unbelievably fun to watch. Braga isn't the strongest Team but they arent any Push overs having beat Sevilla twice to qualify. I'm going to judge them by their PL play because their group is too weak to see how they play against very tough opposition. But all i can say is CESC is BACK fucking beatifull and any one is dumb for thinking he'll leave Anytime soon, Barca already tried twice and got rejected . And I almost forgot to mention are injury list is longer than the fucking nile and we're still playing golden. Arsenal to the finals easy. (ok well not easy but too the finals )
Then I guess you missed the part where he didn't celebrated his fucking 2 goals?
Come on man, the guy wants to play in Barcelona, the longer they acknowledge this, the bigger the burden will be for him :/.
Wenger, fuck you.
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Özil is impressing me so much, pretty much carrying a team like real madrid in his first two games for them at his age is just ridiculous. Their lineup this season looks scary as hell, and Mourinho as coach... they should go very far.
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Real Madrid is garbage. Watch them bomb out of the CL in the Ro16 as usual.
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On September 16 2010 21:44 Mascherano wrote:
Real Madrid is garbage. Watch them bomb out of the CL in the Ro16 as usual.
hi, welcome to barça
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Damn, Arsenal massacred Braga! Gogogo Arsenal. Win champions league! :D
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it doesn't even matter if he wants to play at barca, because barca in 2 years won't be able to afford any of their players and so they are trying to win the CL and la liga as much as possible before the fair financial rules kick in. They had to take a 140M$ loan to pay their players in the spring and you expect them to be able to acquire fabregas...
When Fifa start applying this new rule, it will affect all the clubs that OVERSPEND like barca, real, man u, chelsea , man city, inter milan, ac milan. You will see the difference then. Until then, the only thing winning championship is not only skill, it's debt, that's all.
Also, everytime barcelona took a player that wasn't part of their youth system or that wasn't a defender, he played like shit for the club... henry, hleb, ibra, and so on. The only reason i see fabregas do well over there (if he ever plays that is) is because he actually plays in the Spanish team and he is most likely to get less injured since la liga is a league where you can almost rest all your players on some nights and still end up winning the league while this is definitely not true for the EPL.
Anyways, I would like him to stay at arsenal but by all means, if he wants to go, take him for 55-65M$... I think arsenal can sell him for that much and barcelona can be in bigger debt than before.
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On September 16 2010 22:17 Freaky[x] wrote:
Also, everytime barcelona took a player that wasn't part of their youth system or that wasn't a defender, he played like shit for the club... henry, hleb, ibra, and so on. The only reason i see fabregas do well over there (if he ever plays that is) is because he actually plays in the Spanish team and he is most likely to get less injured since la liga is a league where you can almost rest all your players on some nights and still end up winning the league while this is definitely not true for the EPL.
Anyways, I would like him to stay at arsenal but by all means, if he wants to go, take him for 55-65M$... I think arsenal can sell him for that much and barcelona can be in bigger debt than before.
Barca took players? Really? Most people (actually all of them) call it acquire. Barcelona payed for all the players they got, unlike Arsenal with their Mr. Pedophile. In Spain players can't sign professional contracts until they turn 18.
Henry's 1st season was alright, his 2nd season was amazing (sextuple) and his 3rd season was bad. That's pretty good for a player of his age. Hleb is shit. Ibra's 1st season really wasn't that bad, it was actually fairly good. It was just dwarfed by what they payed for Ibra and his wages. I love how you don't mention all of the other good players Barca 'took' who have been great. Like Sylvinho or Ronaldinho or Kluivert or Deco or Etoo.
The reason Cesc will do good in Barca is because he is a La Masia product. Arsenal is too small for him. He knows it. I know it. You know it. Everybody in London knows this, even Arsene. Arsenal won't win anything and we will have some very juicy drama in the next summer transfer window. Can't wait :O
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I'm not going to actually get into a debate because I used the word "take" I'm sorry though, you are right I should have used acquire.
What you don't understand is that Barcelona does NOT HAVE the money that they use to acquire players, they take out loans to get these players, heck they took out loans of 140M$ to pay the players' wages last spring.
The team did have success when Henry came to Barcelona, but he himself didn't have a great season, he was struggling because they played him in a position he wasn't familiar with.
Hleb was doing great at Arsenal, he doesn't know how to play the same style as the catalan players though and he lost form ever since he went to barcelona. Ibra was overrated anyways, eto'os departure was a disgrace and should never happen, but Barcelona didn't want to give him the wage or status he deserved. Do you know how a player feels when he gives his all and the management don't give a fuck and bring in somebody worse and Pay an additional 40M$ for him?
The transfered I mentioned were transfers from the EPL aka Arsenal to Barcelona. And 8-10 years ago, barcelona didn't act like a bunch of assholes when they wanted a player, the're heads are inflated and they think they can acquire any player because the're the best in Europe.
Also, about Fabregas, when he was 16, he joined one of the best clubs back in the day with 1 of the best players in the world Henry. He was also permitted to play on a regular basis and develop. Let's be honest here, professional or not in Spain, he would not have developed as well in Spain as he did at Arsenal.
And you call Wenger a pedophile? what are you retarded? The guy does his job well and you know what... that's how it is in football, if players are unhappy in a situation and think they can go somewhere else and be able to play as a professional, they will be more than happy to and that's what he promises and delivers to those players. If Fabregas is that unhappy, Wenger will let him go ... at a fair price which I don't think Barcelona are willing to pay.
Barcelona got messi from argentina when he was 12. And they do the same thing as Arsenal. They give a kid a place to learn football and a chance to play on the regular team if he is good enough. Oh and they got him for free. So don't go around lecturing people about stealing or taking players. If you like the club support them, but don't think the team you support is entitled to anything regarding another clubs player who's under contract.
I'll edit this later, but I'll be happy for Fabregas if he goes to barcelona and gets to play as a regular there, I think he deserves to win more and more because he's a great player, but at the same time, Barcelona will have to cut down a lot on their spending when the new rules come into play, because it CAN affect their spot in the champions league and so on.
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Not gonna lie, I like it when people get all feisty about their clubs.
I read somewhere that owners of clubs are allowed to inject 50M per season.
As Beater said in one of the threads Chelsea had all it's debt cleared. Last season we only got Yuri Zhrikov for about 18M and Sturridge but they are doing the tribunal thing for his payments and this season we got Ramires and Benayoun for about 22M I believe.
Chelsea got rid of a lot of big wage earners - Joe Cole, Ballack, DECO, Beletti.
We sold Stoch for 5M or so and sold Scott Sinclair.
No Chelsea hasn't broke even yet but we will as soon as Arsenal wins trophies.  ( too harsh? A BIT OF BANTER )
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Have to say Muller's goal for Bayern last night was awsome.
As for the whole Cesc and Barca thing. It's just laughable at how much they bid for the kid and shows exactly what they think of him when they paid 40m plus Eto for Ibra last season. He will end up at Barcelona, but it will be interesting to see the value he goes for when Barca can't even pay their own players without a huge loan. Arsenal may not win things, but least our debt only comes from building a new stadium.
We've got cesc fabregas, we've got cesc fabregas lalalala lalalal
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I am surprised at the amount of Chelsea fans all the other star craft sites i post at seem to be all be Barcelona or Man U fans. My family is of English descent, but I M Canadian and the only time I have been to England my dad decided to take me to any soccer game i wanted. And i choose Chelsea vs Liverpool. Also by chance I got to meet gianfranco Zola before the game, and he left such an impression on me, that I have pretty much always been a s Chelsea fan ever since
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Real madrid is gonna win it! but if they go out in the 1/8 finals again. I am gonna kill Morinho!
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I gave up on real madrid long ago 
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Real Madrid may not exit at the quater-finals this year, but if they want to win the title they still have a long way to go ! Beating Ajax 2:0 at home is good but it is still to early to tell if the team has/can develop to what, which is needed to become champions. Also Özil played well for 2 1/2 games, and there will be a time when he doesn't play well. And then, I'm curious to watch how Real fans will behave.
The real Champions League starts with the Ro 16 !
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On September 17 2010 02:37 Beavo wrote:I am surprised at the amount of Chelsea fans all the other star craft sites i post at seem to be all be Barcelona or Man U fans. My family is of English descent, but I M Canadian and the only time I have been to England my dad decided to take me to any soccer game i wanted. And i choose Chelsea vs Liverpool. Also by chance I got to meet gianfranco Zola before the game, and he left such an impression on me, that I have pretty much always been a s Chelsea fan ever since
Very cool story :D
Zola seems like such a nice person. Great Chelsea legend.
I know Ozil has been good so far for RM but even if he was to get injured i'm sure they have enough depth to cover for him. ( They have A LOT of midfielders )
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Barca is so unbelievably reckless with their spending. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Mascherano deal. A 22million euro failure from what it looks like. Yeah he still has awhile to prove himself but honestly his brute force style doesn't fit and Barca has so many better options for the foreseeable future.
I just hope Cesc is smarter than Mascherano and can see that at Arsenal he has a leading role and can help them win the EPL and contend in the CL. His style fits so well at Arsenal Much better than watching from the bench. For now Cesc is on our team and has said he will give it his all and I trust him. So shut it with the needless speculation.
Can't wait till the new rules set in and Barca can't just buy their success.
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