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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26074 Posts
June 11 2020 00:27 GMT
#661
On May 25 2020 11:48 vyzion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2020 04:47 Starcloud wrote:
Man its so frustrating watching Serral play nowadays. At times his thinking seems crisp and he seems to dominate like he used to, but then again he has tendency to "throw" games more often and even seems to be prone to reverse sweeps. Like some people said in the TLS-thread, he seems to be very aggressive and trying out some weird strategies instead of playing standard. In addition he seems to try to "force" game to end too aggressively too, while either leaving behind in tech or going for some reason to ultras, which seem to be always wrong option especially in zvz.

Those all are things that Serral used to take advantage of towards his opponents, while he kept his head calm and played standard with excellent defense and impeccable scouting. Of course its good to throw a cheese or non standard builds in every once in a while to keep opponents in their toes, but why try to force them when his micro, macro and scouting is still mostly top class ? In addition, his MMR is still very high and what I have understood and the little I saw he still crushes in ladder like he used to.

Anybody has a theory what has happened ? I think skillwise he is mostly on point still, but does Serral overthink the game too much or has the oh so popular "pro-gaming-thinking" of "hey, I lost 2 drones, im so behind, have to all-in!!" got to him somehow ? Any thoughts ?


My thoughts are pretty simple - he's been the target of everyone especially EU pros so they've built entire strategies and builds against him just to survive with a do or die mentality. Because of this, he can never be too sure of what to expect and tries to be a step or two ahead. Part of being 1 or 2 steps ahead is to be more unpredictable. This works sometimes and other times it doesn't. I think he's currently in an experimental phase. Mechanics are still top notch, it's just the mind game that he's playing around with at the moment. So, not so much overthinking, but learning how to think to transcend to the next level.

If there’s ever a time for such experimentation it’s now, I’d agree with you there.

Not that he never mixed it up but Serral hit monster levels in playing straight up, playing for a macro game and winning in those macro games by mechanical excellence and consistently making the right decisions.

How much scarier is he if he has a whole bunch of other strings to his bow?

Part of why Dark had such a great year is that while being a monster in macro games, you also had to account for him being aggressive or outright cheesy.

Serral’s at a level and has enough money in the bank that he can tank a bit and experiment, his practice regimen and approach to the game has worked very well for him in the past.

Super excited to see him unleashed when the serious prestige tournaments are on the go again.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
June 14 2020 22:12 GMT
#662
On June 11 2020 09:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2020 11:48 vyzion wrote:
On May 25 2020 04:47 Starcloud wrote:
Man its so frustrating watching Serral play nowadays. At times his thinking seems crisp and he seems to dominate like he used to, but then again he has tendency to "throw" games more often and even seems to be prone to reverse sweeps. Like some people said in the TLS-thread, he seems to be very aggressive and trying out some weird strategies instead of playing standard. In addition he seems to try to "force" game to end too aggressively too, while either leaving behind in tech or going for some reason to ultras, which seem to be always wrong option especially in zvz.

Those all are things that Serral used to take advantage of towards his opponents, while he kept his head calm and played standard with excellent defense and impeccable scouting. Of course its good to throw a cheese or non standard builds in every once in a while to keep opponents in their toes, but why try to force them when his micro, macro and scouting is still mostly top class ? In addition, his MMR is still very high and what I have understood and the little I saw he still crushes in ladder like he used to.

Anybody has a theory what has happened ? I think skillwise he is mostly on point still, but does Serral overthink the game too much or has the oh so popular "pro-gaming-thinking" of "hey, I lost 2 drones, im so behind, have to all-in!!" got to him somehow ? Any thoughts ?


My thoughts are pretty simple - he's been the target of everyone especially EU pros so they've built entire strategies and builds against him just to survive with a do or die mentality. Because of this, he can never be too sure of what to expect and tries to be a step or two ahead. Part of being 1 or 2 steps ahead is to be more unpredictable. This works sometimes and other times it doesn't. I think he's currently in an experimental phase. Mechanics are still top notch, it's just the mind game that he's playing around with at the moment. So, not so much overthinking, but learning how to think to transcend to the next level.

If there’s ever a time for such experimentation it’s now, I’d agree with you there.

Not that he never mixed it up but Serral hit monster levels in playing straight up, playing for a macro game and winning in those macro games by mechanical excellence and consistently making the right decisions.

How much scarier is he if he has a whole bunch of other strings to his bow?

Part of why Dark had such a great year is that while being a monster in macro games, you also had to account for him being aggressive or outright cheesy.

Serral’s at a level and has enough money in the bank that he can tank a bit and experiment, his practice regimen and approach to the game has worked very well for him in the past.

Super excited to see him unleashed when the serious prestige tournaments are on the go again.


Seriously! So excited, can't wait to see...during his interview after winning SAHSC2, he mentioned that he's been trying all-ins and it hasn't been working out great for him but he's going to continue working on them...but he's mostly happy that the current maps which promote a lot more standard play which he's most comfortable with.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
June 15 2020 08:56 GMT
#663
Congratz for winning the 2nd edition of the Stay at Home Serral Cup ^-^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
July 19 2020 21:50 GMT
#664
In about 13 hours, Serral will be going through an extremely stacked group. (Wiki)Douyu Cup/2020

It will be very exciting.

Congratulations on your DH finals win, Serral! Best of luck!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
July 20 2020 14:58 GMT
#665
Serral has unstoppable activated again. The loss to Reynor has him really pissed of I guess ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
July 20 2020 20:44 GMT
#666
On July 20 2020 23:58 Harris1st wrote:
Serral has unstoppable activated again. The loss to Reynor has him really pissed of I guess ^^

Serral very seldom gets a loss-win deficit of 3 maps. He had one in 2018 vs Neeb in an online tourney, and then Innovation at HSC XX (before getting a 3-0 revenge vs Inno in the lower bracket). So ya, I'd imagine that loss to Reynor really lit his fire.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 20 2020 21:17 GMT
#667
On July 21 2020 05:44 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 23:58 Harris1st wrote:
Serral has unstoppable activated again. The loss to Reynor has him really pissed of I guess ^^

Serral very seldom gets a loss-win deficit of 3 maps. He had one in 2018 vs Neeb in an online tourney, and then Innovation at HSC XX (before getting a 3-0 revenge vs Inno in the lower bracket). So ya, I'd imagine that loss to Reynor really lit his fire.


He lost 1-3 to Inno, the previous one was against Maru at WESG.
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
July 20 2020 23:06 GMT
#668
On July 21 2020 06:17 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2020 05:44 tigon_ridge wrote:
On July 20 2020 23:58 Harris1st wrote:
Serral has unstoppable activated again. The loss to Reynor has him really pissed of I guess ^^

Serral very seldom gets a loss-win deficit of 3 maps. He had one in 2018 vs Neeb in an online tourney, and then Innovation at HSC XX (before getting a 3-0 revenge vs Inno in the lower bracket). So ya, I'd imagine that loss to Reynor really lit his fire.


He lost 1-3 to Inno, the previous one was against Maru at WESG.

Indeed. I don't bother mentioning his pre-prime stats; there's no point.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26074 Posts
July 21 2020 00:55 GMT
#669
Oh for some more Serral streams one day.

Last I saw with him that someone uploaded to YouTube thankfully had him commentating and playing for a few hours. Frequently saying he was making terrible moves. Think he might have only dropped one game.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
July 21 2020 17:12 GMT
#670
On July 21 2020 09:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
Oh for some more Serral streams one day.

Last I saw with him that someone uploaded to YouTube thankfully had him commentating and playing for a few hours. Frequently saying he was making terrible moves. Think he might have only dropped one game.

Doesn't he have pretty bad Wi-Fi at home, meaning he can only stream from the ENCE office or something? I think that was one of the many reasons he streams rarely.

But yeah, I definitely watched the hell out of that stream. He only lost his last game to Clem iirc
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-03 16:44:00
July 28 2020 20:41 GMT
#671
The worst thing there is, is that ancient attitude.

Luckily we have Serral, and everything that comes with him,

Good. Bad, Sober. Drunken. It is always beautiful to watch... even when broken,

GOAT!

(Joona himself can give a shit)

ADD/EDIT/ August 3rd, 2020:

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Part-time Serralogist
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-12 18:14:40
September 12 2020 18:13 GMT
#672
Can someone please do a supercut of all the webcam footage of Serral yelling at the screen playing DH SC2 Masters 2020 Fall: Europe? It's incredible how emotional he gets.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
November 26 2020 03:50 GMT
#673

Join us! Sacred Spire Ministries every Sabbath and Tournament for more praise and worship. Blessed day of thanks and giving.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Elche
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland170 Posts
November 26 2020 11:06 GMT
#674
Why is it that all the other players fanclubs have such cool banners and Serral has that ridiculous abomination?
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
November 26 2020 12:02 GMT
#675
On November 26 2020 20:06 Elche wrote:
Why is it that all the other players fanclubs have such cool banners and Serral has that ridiculous abomination?


True! There is not even a golf club in there
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
PlayerUnknown
Profile Joined November 2020
1 Post
Last Edited: 2020-11-26 15:13:37
November 26 2020 15:07 GMT
#676
--Deleted. Not sure how to delete a post, sorry delete this mods--
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland496 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 14:17:54
March 06 2021 14:17 GMT
#677



Seems like Serral updated the setup for streaming. Test stream going on right now.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
Gina
Profile Joined July 2019
241 Posts
March 10 2021 17:27 GMT
#678
Honestly, the guy is getting 6k viewers on a stream. Still enough of a rarity perhaps?
Omit needles swords.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden790 Posts
April 02 2021 14:10 GMT
#679
Streaming currently
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden790 Posts
April 23 2021 18:40 GMT
#680
Damn, got home and saw him streaming to have him turn it off 5 min later, luckily you can rewatch :p
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