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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 03 2019 14:27 GMT
#381
Glad that soO won the event, at least Serral loss had some meaning.

On the other hand, with a slightly better decision making in g3 or g5 we'd have almost surely witnessed Serral lifting the IEM trophy...

He's young, let's hope his shape and motivation stay on top so that he can win Katowice 2020.
YamiRi
Profile Joined September 2015
152 Posts
March 03 2019 14:41 GMT
#382
Serral... the kingmaker in 2019

Serral is still good though.. He is just 1 game away from knocking out soO
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
March 03 2019 20:05 GMT
#383
I really enjoy watching Serral play. Even when he loses, you can gleam very useful information from the game. He's a once-in-a-decade asset for the Starcraft global community. Adolescent kids are watching him play, and being inspired. Some of them will join the new generation of foreigner SC2 pros.

I want to add: in the first game he lost, I think it was due to him not getting roach speed. I don't know if that was intentional. I remember yelling (in my mind), "Why no speed?!"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6865 Posts
March 04 2019 10:31 GMT
#384
Awesome run Serral! Couldn't last forever I guess

Don't let it bother you too much, you will get your crown back at WESG!
Everyone has an off day now and then. Good luck next week
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
JasonOfAeson
Profile Joined July 2018
33 Posts
March 04 2019 12:57 GMT
#385
SoO is historically the greatest ZvZ player in the world. Same with Inno and TvZ. If he's going to drop a match it makes sense it'll be to either of the two.
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany455 Posts
March 04 2019 14:20 GMT
#386
You lost to the eventual winner, so i guess that's okay, especially since it was soO.. If someone deserves a tournament win it's him. Still some exciting games from you, i hope the loss makes you even more motivated for the upcoming tasks Love to see you play, every game is auch high caliber play. Can't wait for WESG and WCS to come. Gogo Serral!
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
March 04 2019 22:13 GMT
#387
Serral got outplayed, but he is still the best player in the world. He got killed by a red hot soO who was bound by destiny to win that tournament.

He'll probably still win every WCS EU - nobody can touch him - and be top 2 at BlizzCon
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 05 2019 00:07 GMT
#388
On March 05 2019 07:13 sertman wrote:
Serral got outplayed, but he is still the best player in the world. He got killed by a red hot soO who was bound by destiny to win that tournament.

He'll probably still win every WCS EU - nobody can touch him - and be top 2 at BlizzCon


He wasn't outplayed, I disagree.
WESG is the closest stop!
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 05 2019 10:31 GMT
#389
Anyone want a standard Serral interview? Well here's one from WESG.
why even
Sviru1
Profile Joined January 2017
24 Posts
March 05 2019 10:59 GMT
#390
On March 05 2019 07:13 sertman wrote:
Serral got outplayed, but he is still the best player in the world. He got killed by a red hot soO who was bound by destiny to win that tournament.

He'll probably still win every WCS EU - nobody can touch him - and be top 2 at BlizzCon


I don't think he was outplayed at all.
He could have won he just didn't pull the trigger when he had to.

I fact I think sOO was lucky a little bit.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6865 Posts
March 05 2019 12:04 GMT
#391
On March 05 2019 19:31 D-light wrote:
Anyone want a standard Serral interview? Well here's one from WESG.


Career as a politician confirmed :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
March 06 2019 02:48 GMT
#392
Just throwing out some hypotheses. I think there are two potential demons that are possibly plaguing Serral.

One is complacency. He's already accomplished so much, so perhaps he's not as hungry as before. This loss may add to his hunger, at least.

Second is extreme pressure from everybody around him. Korea's presence in the scene is as overwhelming as ever before, and everyone has an intense laser focus on one person to take on an entire country. Serral has in the past stated that he doesn't think too much about the "foreigner vs korean" aspect, but I'm sure he still feels that concentrated weight of hope and expectation from everybody. It can either motivate him, or really distract him.
Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
March 06 2019 04:29 GMT
#393
In my opinion, a significant aspect of his Ro8 elimination was the legendary but amazingly draining series loss vs Innovation at the end of the group stage. He had one of the longest Bo3 series ever at a major tournament, in length comparable to all other group games he had played combined. It had to be mentally and physically exhausting to be at that level for that long. Winter casting the replay was like "I'm getting tired just trying to watch all of the constant action," imagine playing for 4 hrs/4 Bo3s and THEN having to play a Top3 Terran for almost two straight hours, and THEN play maybe the best ZvZ in the world in soO only 24 hours after that.

Serral's previous greatness and his offline series streak hurt him in this tourney. Had he not had a nearly 1 year streak on the line, the outcome of the series vs Inno had no meaning and he would have 12-pool zergling rushed three times without a care. So much, maybe too much, of his effort was expended in the meaningless series, and that schedule is a taxing one, making that fatigue factor much larger.
YamiRi
Profile Joined September 2015
152 Posts
March 06 2019 13:27 GMT
#394
On March 06 2019 11:48 tigon_ridge wrote:
Just throwing out some hypotheses. I think there are two potential demons that are possibly plaguing Serral.

One is complacency. He's already accomplished so much, so perhaps he's not as hungry as before. This loss may add to his hunger, at least.

Second is extreme pressure from everybody around him. Korea's presence in the scene is as overwhelming as ever before, and everyone has an intense laser focus on one person to take on an entire country. Serral has in the past stated that he doesn't think too much about the "foreigner vs korean" aspect, but I'm sure he still feels that concentrated weight of hope and expectation from everybody. It can either motivate him, or really distract him.


Try to watch more of his hype video from Starcraft 2 team

This guy saw that winning a tournament is something you normally do
He said that he just want to win a lot before retiring...

so there is no way he is affected by the pressure.. he doesn't care whether you argued about him being the best player in the world or not...
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 06 2019 14:11 GMT
#395
Wow these Serral fanboys... Serral got massively outplayed by both Innovation and soO. Innovation completely dismantled him in TvZ lategame (which is not that strange to be honest there arent many Zergs out there who could match the machine in the super late) and soO destroyed him with better micro and decision making. Also he made fewer mistakes.

Serral is still a godlike player, but it was just a matter of time until the top Koreans "figure him out" and start giving him losses from time to time.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 06 2019 15:45 GMT
#396
On March 06 2019 23:11 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Wow these Serral fanboys... Serral got massively outplayed by both Innovation and soO. Innovation completely dismantled him in TvZ lategame (which is not that strange to be honest there arent many Zergs out there who could match the machine in the super late) and soO destroyed him with better micro and decision making. Also he made fewer mistakes.

Serral is still a godlike player, but it was just a matter of time until the top Koreans "figure him out" and start giving him losses from time to time.


Man, please. Serral played in a terribly passive way against Innovation in games that had nothing at stake(200 dollars?Wow) whereas Serral won three out of four macro games against him the last time they played in a final at HSC.

On the other hand, soO had better decision making and made fewer glaring mistakes during the series but he definitely did not outmicro nor outplay Serral; you don't "destroy" someone by barely winning 3-2(or 2-1) in hard fought games, it's nonsense.

It was just a matter of time before Serral was defeated because it's not human to keep winning forever whereas it is to have worse days than usual. It didn't seem like any of the top koreans in IEM reached a higher level of play than Serral's best, he should and would just need to get back to better focus and sharper decision making to win another tournament.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 08 2019 09:10 GMT
#397
On March 07 2019 00:45 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2019 23:11 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Wow these Serral fanboys... Serral got massively outplayed by both Innovation and soO. Innovation completely dismantled him in TvZ lategame (which is not that strange to be honest there arent many Zergs out there who could match the machine in the super late) and soO destroyed him with better micro and decision making. Also he made fewer mistakes.

Serral is still a godlike player, but it was just a matter of time until the top Koreans "figure him out" and start giving him losses from time to time.


Man, please. Serral played in a terribly passive way against Innovation in games that had nothing at stake(200 dollars?Wow) whereas Serral won three out of four macro games against him the last time they played in a final at HSC.

On the other hand, soO had better decision making and made fewer glaring mistakes during the series but he definitely did not outmicro nor outplay Serral; you don't "destroy" someone by barely winning 3-2(or 2-1) in hard fought games, it's nonsense.

It was just a matter of time before Serral was defeated because it's not human to keep winning forever whereas it is to have worse days than usual. It didn't seem like any of the top koreans in IEM reached a higher level of play than Serral's best, he should and would just need to get back to better focus and sharper decision making to win another tournament.


Okay dude, stay deluded I dont really care
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 08 2019 09:59 GMT
#398
On March 08 2019 18:10 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 00:45 Xain0n wrote:
On March 06 2019 23:11 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Wow these Serral fanboys... Serral got massively outplayed by both Innovation and soO. Innovation completely dismantled him in TvZ lategame (which is not that strange to be honest there arent many Zergs out there who could match the machine in the super late) and soO destroyed him with better micro and decision making. Also he made fewer mistakes.

Serral is still a godlike player, but it was just a matter of time until the top Koreans "figure him out" and start giving him losses from time to time.


Man, please. Serral played in a terribly passive way against Innovation in games that had nothing at stake(200 dollars?Wow) whereas Serral won three out of four macro games against him the last time they played in a final at HSC.

On the other hand, soO had better decision making and made fewer glaring mistakes during the series but he definitely did not outmicro nor outplay Serral; you don't "destroy" someone by barely winning 3-2(or 2-1) in hard fought games, it's nonsense.

It was just a matter of time before Serral was defeated because it's not human to keep winning forever whereas it is to have worse days than usual. It didn't seem like any of the top koreans in IEM reached a higher level of play than Serral's best, he should and would just need to get back to better focus and sharper decision making to win another tournament.


Okay dude, stay deluded I dont really care


Aaah, I love this kind of enlightening criticism, well memed here.

Did you even watch the series? Serral still looked better than soO in term of mechanics, he managed to stay in game 3 despite having a crippling deficit in supply and resources; however, soO didn't commit glaring errors as Serral did and he had a sharper decision making going for the win with the right timing, while Serral failed to realize he had a chanche for the killing blow at least twice.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6865 Posts
March 08 2019 10:06 GMT
#399
On March 06 2019 23:11 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Wow these Serral fanboys... Serral got massively outplayed by both Innovation and soO. Innovation completely dismantled him in TvZ lategame (which is not that strange to be honest there arent many Zergs out there who could match the machine in the super late) and soO destroyed him with better micro and decision making. Also he made fewer mistakes.

Serral is still a godlike player, but it was just a matter of time until the top Koreans "figure him out" and start giving him losses from time to time.


Massively outplayed? Completely dismantled? Destroyed him?

Pretty sure we didn't watch the same games o.O

The only thing I can agree with is, that soO made fewer mistakes.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
March 08 2019 11:40 GMT
#400
serral was off the entire event, save for a couple games.
relatively speaking, that's still better than most .
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
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