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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-04 01:04:02
March 04 2017 00:52 GMT
#2421
Don't count Inno out just yet. Today was bad for him, yeah, but look at the specifics and a much brighter picture comes out.

He narrowly lost to Gumiho because he went for early aggression in the third game and lost his banshee for nothing. They were pretty evenly matched in a normal TvT. Likewise he lost against uThermal only because he got 3-raxed twice, and won the one normal game they played. So Inno's TvT is quite solid as long as he can avoid taking early damage. This style is great against Ryung because Ryung isn't a super cheesy or aggressive player who likes to 3-rax.

Ryung has the hype train behind him because he recently beat Maru and ByuN (twice). Gratz to him, that's a fantastic accomplishment, but ByuN's TvT has been shaky (by top-tier standards) ever since 3.8 came out. INnoVation has also beaten ByuN twice since that patch, just like Ryung has also lost to Gumiho since then. Historically, Inno has a (heavily) winning record against Ryung; the last time Ryung beat him was in 2015.

Finally, TvT is just a super-coinflippy matchup right now. Positioning is huge, vision is huge, luck is huge. Whomever pulls off the first doom-drop-into-main autowins. Because the matchup is so volatile, inferior players can beat superior ones far more so than in other matchups. Because we expect superior players to always defeat inferior ones, everyone is shocked when an upset happens. But in TvT, the playing field is far more level across the entire spectrum of skill.

I'm not saying Inno is going to win for sure. I think Ryung has a very good chance of winning. But "a very good chance" in TvT is like Ryung 60-40 Inno at best. Maybe I'm totally wrong and Ryung will sweep 3-0, but for now I have faith in The Machine.
We'll see tomorrow.
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ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
March 04 2017 03:01 GMT
#2422
inno will win 3-1 vs ryung, 3-2 vs alive.
"I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 04 2017 08:32 GMT
#2423
On March 04 2017 12:01 ZertoN wrote:
inno will win 3-1 vs ryung, 3-2 vs alive.


You'll be my messiah if it goes that way.

I won't be at home until 14h so I hope there will be good news ...
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 04 2017 13:03 GMT
#2424
I'm so happy
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
March 04 2017 13:03 GMT
#2425
Sign me up!

Stats, Dark, Maru <3
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 04 2017 13:15 GMT
#2426
I was wrong. Not close at all. Inno hwaiting!
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eeChiama
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Argentina96 Posts
March 04 2017 16:05 GMT
#2427
Inno down 2-0 vs aLive, just hoping Inno's banshees don't become a meme x.x
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
March 04 2017 17:20 GMT
#2428
:-(
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 04 2017 17:52 GMT
#2429
='-(
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 04 2017 18:42 GMT
#2430
;(
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 08 2017 07:25 GMT
#2431
He qualified for SSL Premier today. I think the round robin format is better for him, so hoping he will run deep.
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 08 2017 14:07 GMT
#2432
Glad to see he's still on his feets

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INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
March 08 2017 23:03 GMT
#2433
Hope he wins SSL/VSL
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-09 20:26:45
March 09 2017 20:26 GMT
#2434
Just an fyi in case anyone was confused about Inno's stream:

He's changed his name from dltlsgud2 to innovation_s2
So his stream is now at https://www.twitch.tv/innovation_s2
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
March 10 2017 08:27 GMT
#2435
Lost in VSL qualifiers.
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 13 2017 10:16 GMT
#2436
I just found a funny story about him on MMA fanclub, don't know if you've read it so i'll share

On March 10 2016 08:04 Bagration wrote:
TL user mooncifer recounts an experience he had with MMA - xpost from the other thread

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:45 mooncifer wrote:
XXTN, thanks for this great video. And reading people's love for MMA makes me miss this guy more. He's really the kindest person I've ever known. XXTN, hope you don't mind I share a never told story about MMA here.

It was in 2014 IEM Shenzhen. Many Korean players participated in that tournament, including MMA and inno. I was working there too, so I had chances to get closer to them.

On the quarterfinals day, there was an inno's fangirl taking 2 hours flight from another city to support him, but unfortunately inno lost. The girl was very sad; what made her more upset was inno's emotionless reaction to her. Btw, I don't think it's inno's right or wrong. It's just his robotic personality. He was truly not excited when facing fans, and didn't know to hide it. That girl cried after inno leaving the studio. Because she picked many gifts and wanted to give to inno another day. It's inno's birthday the next week. But he said he would not be in the studio tomorrow.

Anyway, I told MMA about this after dinner, and we laughed like "oh gosh it's just so inno". Then MMA said, "hey, I have a good idea. How about tomorrow we invite that girl to have lunch together?" We three were planning to take a tour the next day, so MMA suggested involving that girl too. And the following words he said I will never forget——

“Off course I will buy her lunch. But, please don't let her know it. Just tell her it is inno buy her food, and say inno want to thanks for her support. I guess it can make her feel better. How do you think about it?”

Guys, what else could I think about it, except that he's the nicest boy in the world? I mean, that's even not his fan, just kind of a stranger that he will never meet again. But he also would like to be kind, without taking credit. In case someone is interested, MMA is not a prodigal man. Buying an extra lunch may cost him around $15, which's nearly equal to the taxi fee from GSL studio to his team house. As far as I know, he rarely took the taxi in Seoul. He chose to take the bus all the time, even after 5 hours matches without eating, even when it would take him more than 1 hour on the road, even when it's already around midnight.

And it's not the end of that night's lovely story. When I back to that girl, I found she already rescheduled the plane to the next morning, because "I have no reason to stay here if I can't watch him anymore." Oh gosh……And she's so regret. I discussed with MMA again, and he quickly had another great idea, "how about we hold a specific fan meeting for them!^^"

There we go. So we four met at the hotel lobby. The girl brought all the carefully chosen gifts there, and inno was well educated by MMA to keep smiling and show gratefulness through the whole meeting. And since they two cannot communicate each other, MMA and I volunteered to interpret —— The girl asked questions in Chinese, then I translated it into English, then MMA translated it into Korean. And after inno answered in Korean, we translated it back. It was an exclusively joyful fan meeting. MMA was very patient in the whole one hour, often joking around to make everyone laugh and relaxed, although later he told me that actually his stomach was not feeling good all the night. But don't worry. MMA was happy too. He's very excited about the fact that he could become a Korean-English translator, lol. Btw, His English was not bad at all, but he's always not confident and was too shy to show it on broadcast. MMA said it's the very first time people trust him to translate (tbh we didn't have other choice at that time, haha), so at the end, he also said thanks to us too.

That's MMA. He helped you, but didn't want you feel you owe him. The boy has a heart of gold. He deserves the best in the world.

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How can you not miss this guy?


INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
March 13 2017 13:03 GMT
#2437
Crushed 3-0 by GuMiho that showcased the worst of TvT - lost to 2 proxyBarracks Reaper on Newkirk when he sent out his first Reaper just as 3 of GuMiho's attacked; INnoVation opened up gas-rax-cc on Abyssal Reef as opposed to rax-gas-gas by GuMiho, sent out his Reaper again while GuMiho's arrived at his natural with his SCV and built a Bunker there, cancelling the CC, INnoVation looked behind but he managed to stabilise and even get ahead with 2 nice drops that killed ~30 SCVS, but then he marched his army into the middle of the map to pursue a smaller army and into a surround that caught him with 4/5 of his tanks unsieged. Game 3, INnoVation tries proxy 2-rax reaper of his own (on Proxima Station, no less), gets scouted, and with poor Reaper micro gets thrown out
verlar
Profile Joined July 2013
34 Posts
March 14 2017 09:18 GMT
#2438
Oh, mun_su. What a lovely story <3
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-16 15:14:45
March 15 2017 04:25 GMT
#2439
Watched a PiG Daily where he said TY/Inno were "without a doubt" the two best Terrans in the world and I have to agree. TY's TvP is by far the best, and Inno's TvZ is by far the best. Their TvT styles are very similar too; I'd love to see them play each other though I think TY might have a slight edge there.

On another note, Inno will be playing Zest on Monday in SSL. Hope he's worked on his TvP since the nerf.
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eeChiama
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Argentina96 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 05:37:33
March 17 2017 05:31 GMT
#2440
On March 13 2017 22:03 EatingBomber wrote:
Crushed 3-0 by GuMiho that showcased the worst of TvT - lost to 2 proxyBarracks Reaper on Newkirk when he sent out his first Reaper just as 3 of GuMiho's attacked; INnoVation opened up gas-rax-cc on Abyssal Reef as opposed to rax-gas-gas by GuMiho, sent out his Reaper again while GuMiho's arrived at his natural with his SCV and built a Bunker there, cancelling the CC, INnoVation looked behind but he managed to stabilise and even get ahead with 2 nice drops that killed ~30 SCVS, but then he marched his army into the middle of the map to pursue a smaller army and into a surround that caught him with 4/5 of his tanks unsieged. Game 3, INnoVation tries proxy 2-rax reaper of his own (on Proxima Station, no less), gets scouted, and with poor Reaper micro gets thrown out



Must have been just a bad day. He's streaming now, and he's playing like god. 4-0 Gumiho and 2-0 Dark in some AMAZING games. Increidble skill. Best player in the world no kiddin.

To the tune of La La Land.
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