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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1961 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-15 04:22:21
December 15 2018 01:18 GMT
#341
Love what you guys are doing, but Nathanias is just meh for me, so think I'll be skipping this episode. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all of you, anyway.
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colttarren
Profile Joined June 2014
United States26 Posts
December 15 2018 03:45 GMT
#342
Congrats on an awesome season, guys! Thanks for the Pizza Pie love, it seriously means the world. Looking forward to the next season!
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12049 Posts
December 15 2018 11:50 GMT
#343
Great show, haven't laughed that much in ages. One thing that surprised me is I made it onto that collage thing o_o
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
December 15 2018 12:03 GMT
#344
On December 15 2018 10:18 Creager wrote:
Love what you guys are doing, but Nathanias is just meh for me, so think I'll be skipping this episode. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all of you, anyway.

Don't skip it, you'll miss great entertainment. Nathanias doesn't meme too hard, so it's fine imho.
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Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
December 15 2018 13:26 GMT
#345
On December 15 2018 07:08 Odoakar wrote:
That akward part with Meynarde feels fucking scary now, seeing what happened to HotS...

"It's not like the game will be dead in 2019...I'm an optimistic guy, I'm a glass half full guy...SC2 will not die in 2019...I'm very optimistic"

And rotti is like 'dude, the fuck, don't scare people and don't breach your NDA'

I feel sc2 prize pool is going to be gutted


How does it feel scary?
What you have (on purpose, I assume) left out from your summary, is all the statements like:
"this is a big positive"
"2019 is going to be amazing"
"2019 is going to be better than 2018"
"there is nothing to be concerned about at all"
"2019 looks very promising and Blizzard is very happy with how Starcraft did this year"
"we have a lot to look forward to"
"2019 is going to be good, the question mark is HOW good it's going to be"

This is not what Rotti said at all, by the way:
"I feel like right now you are almost scaring people and I don't think that's the right idea. We don't know details but we know a lot of good things. Just because we don't know the details doesn't mean that no good things are coming."

You made it sound like they had to hide some bad news, which is absolutely not the case. He didn't even warn Maynard about breaching his NDA. You also put almost everything out of context and misquote the folks on the show.

At this point I have to assume that this is deliberate in order to scare other people on the forum. Shame on you.

Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 15 2018 15:59 GMT
#346
In light of HotS news, you should rewatch that segment.

I would be willing to bet there was some kind of talk of downscaling on the summit.
546marine
Profile Joined January 2013
United States22 Posts
December 19 2018 16:59 GMT
#347
Love it!!!!
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
December 20 2018 22:46 GMT
#348
On December 15 2018 10:18 Creager wrote:
Love what you guys are doing, but Nathanias is just meh for me, so think I'll be skipping this episode. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all of you, anyway.


I think this episode was great and I generally do my best to not be too much of a pain in the ass in shows. Please watch and enjoy I'm sure you'll like it even though I'm there!
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gigiracy
Profile Joined December 2018
2 Posts
December 21 2018 17:29 GMT
#349
On December 04 2018 10:02 Pandain wrote:
Awesome shows as always.

In my eyes, if Serral wins the next big global tournament (IEM Kato or WESG, whichever is first), he's bonjwa even without having won any "preparation style" tournaments. It would be completely unprecedented dominance.

Funnily enough, if Maru had won this blizzcon (which I think would have happened if he got past sOs), we would be having the same conversation but instead about him. Funny how things work out, and really shows how far above the two are above others.



if Serral wins the next big global tournament (IEM Kato or WESG, whichever is first), he's bonjwa even without having won any "preparation style"
toaae
Profile Joined May 2013
United States5 Posts
December 21 2018 18:32 GMT
#350
On December 21 2018 07:46 Nathanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2018 10:18 Creager wrote:
Love what you guys are doing, but Nathanias is just meh for me, so think I'll be skipping this episode. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all of you, anyway.


I think this episode was great and I generally do my best to not be too much of a pain in the ass in shows. Please watch and enjoy I'm sure you'll like it even though I'm there!


I'm not one of your viewers (I need 28 hours in my day to watch everyone I want to), but I wanted to say I loved you on the show. Your chemistry with everyone is great and you brought a lot of humor and good insights. Keep being you!
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
January 28 2019 18:28 GMT
#351
This last episode's discussion on the WCS Winter qualifiers regional slots really rubbed me the wrong way. Geoff was arguing there should be less slots for Australia because they aren't good enough compared to the European region, and that WCS should have a threshold for skill level. I don't disagree with the argument, but how can he say this with a straight face when WCS region locks ALL Koreans out? Top Europeans are pretty much at the level of Koreans, so how is this justifiable?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
January 28 2019 19:23 GMT
#352
On January 29 2019 03:28 Brutaxilos wrote:
This last episode's discussion on the WCS Winter qualifiers regional slots really rubbed me the wrong way. Geoff was arguing there should be less slots for Australia because they aren't good enough compared to the European region, and that WCS should have a threshold for skill level. I don't disagree with the argument, but how can he say this with a straight face when WCS region locks ALL Koreans out? Top Europeans are pretty much at the level of Koreans, so how is this justifiable?

I'm sorry, can you give this context? Without listening to the show yet and just reading your comment it seems like Incontrol is complaining that there's 2 Australians in WCS Winter NA, which is too many because only 32 Europeans can play in WCS Winter EU. And that doesn't sound like it's a real thing that happened.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 28 2019 19:36 GMT
#353
On January 29 2019 04:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2019 03:28 Brutaxilos wrote:
This last episode's discussion on the WCS Winter qualifiers regional slots really rubbed me the wrong way. Geoff was arguing there should be less slots for Australia because they aren't good enough compared to the European region, and that WCS should have a threshold for skill level. I don't disagree with the argument, but how can he say this with a straight face when WCS region locks ALL Koreans out? Top Europeans are pretty much at the level of Koreans, so how is this justifiable?

I'm sorry, can you give this context? Without listening to the show yet and just reading your comment it seems like Incontrol is complaining that there's 2 Australians in WCS Winter NA, which is too many because only 32 Europeans can play in WCS Winter EU. And that doesn't sound like it's a real thing that happened.

Yeah that's definitely not it, the whole section was pretty long and more complicated.

Basically it started with ZG and feardragon not liking how WCS NA is this mixed pot where everything gets thrown together and how NA players have even less spots now. They also felt bad for Australia for example because they are just part the Americas now and don't have their own regional competition. So they should get their own thing.

Incontrol thought they meant a smaller WCS just for Australia, but said they don't deserve that because nobody wants to watch the 8th best Australian player while the 8th best EU player is really good, so it makes sense that they have their own thing. They also don't deserve more spots in WCS Americas, 2 is about fine. He also said China is better than Australia and a way more exciting region, so them getting more spots is fair.

But then feardragon and ZG clarified that they also just meant a regional Australia qualifier, online without a huge production and not another WCS event and 2 spots seems fair. They just want the regional competition back, in any form. Right now Australia has no identity and is just part of WCS Americas. Incontrol agreed with that and they basically agreed on everything in the end. There was a lot of confusion during the whole discussion, and some stuff got mixed up with Katowice, but in the end it all got cleared up.

I hope I got this right, gotta watch it yourself maybe .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-28 19:54:18
January 28 2019 19:53 GMT
#354
That definitely makes a lot more sense, thanks Musicus. Although I will say, NA players having "less spots" is not that bad. You know, in a similar manner to "nobody wants to watch the 8th best Australian player", I think having PsiArc or Probe or Gogojoey in WCS Winter NA improves it.
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CobraVe7nom7
Profile Joined December 2015
36 Posts
January 30 2019 12:00 GMT
#355
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
January 30 2019 12:57 GMT
#356
On January 29 2019 04:53 Elentos wrote:
That definitely makes a lot more sense, thanks Musicus. Although I will say, NA players having "less spots" is not that bad. You know, in a similar manner to "nobody wants to watch the 8th best Australian player", I think having PsiArc or Probe or Gogojoey in WCS Winter NA improves it.

Both Goeff and Artosis several times proved that Murrica > the rest of the world for them. I don't think that's inherently bad(actually I think it's pretty normal all over the world), but when they talk about the global starcraft(and I don't mean GSL ) it's sometimes funny

And c'mon, people with names like Gogojoey should have a wildcard spot. Actually I believe there should be 1 free spot for a person with the most hilarious name! (no offense to Gogojoey, but this nickname always creates a big smile)
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CobraVe7nom7
Profile Joined December 2015
36 Posts
January 31 2019 02:18 GMT
#357
We are live NOW www.twitch.tv/incontroltv

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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
January 31 2019 03:42 GMT
#358
Very nice that they had the ESCHAMP guys on the show, they had great knowledge of how IA worked, really made me understand better how it learned, the fact that total autonomous learning may be actually impossible is very interesting.
Really worth a watch for everyone interesting in Alphastar.
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CobraVe7nom7
Profile Joined December 2015
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-31 07:45:34
January 31 2019 07:42 GMT
#359
Podcasts will be up in a few hours
CobraVe7nom7
Profile Joined December 2015
36 Posts
January 31 2019 07:44 GMT
#360
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