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NoS-Craig
Australia3159 Posts
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GoShox
United States1845 Posts
As one of the players who quit the game a little after release but would absolutely love to come back if there was something like a large tournament with everyone else coming back, I was happy to hear that your thoughts matched mine. The viewer numbers were great for the launch event and Christmas stream, not so much for the Italian Open but that wasn't advertised too much and it competed with Blizzcon anyways. Yet it didn't seem like Blizzard put much more of an effort into the foreign scene after that. Obviously they're doing a lot with KSL, so maybe we just have to accept that Remastered was made for the Korean scene. I just feel like the game didn't have much of a chance out of the gate. I remember watching streams where people couldn't find ladder games cause the matchmaking was broken, or they'd get the laggiest games ever, or they'd just get discouraged by a ladder system that was pretty much meaningless. The lack of team matchmaking is also disheartening; so much of Remastered just feels incomplete. If they had waited to release until some of these basic features were in place, maybe more people would've stuck around. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Gorgonoth
United States468 Posts
A lack of sponsors goes hand in hand with the networking problem, because its hard to point to something as tangible evidence of a active and healthy community when it is dispersed across a wide range of platforms with each cluster not always aware of the other ones. Matcherino is a awesome one and I hope that in the future there will be more. I'm not sure if you were aware of the SKTL, but it had several larger sponsors and many of those got cold feet after that event went sour. Even something like that can really set things back. Usually its not hard to find players to populate a tourney, they are eager for events. I like the parrallel you drew with Smash Mele, because I think that game is living proof that Broodwar could become much more popular again in the Foreign scene. There are alot of factors involved in how this could happen but I think Broodwar envagelism could become better. Less focus on how hard it is, and more on how rewarding the wins are. The raw mechanical skill required to play is not something that is a effective pitch, but It is so often used as one. I am reallly hopeful for Broodwar and I will be doing everything I can to help it grow by giving showmatches and other events to some of the top foreigners where I can. Everytime you guys do things for Broodwar, Believe me we are super grateful and would love more! | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12049 Posts
I clipped this moment with Scar and Toph at EVO and it resonates with me a lot. Scar mentions about how the entire community managed to band together and make it into EVO, now of course that's a little bit harder for Broodwar, but the idea is the same. If we want the scene to grow I feel like it's going to take a lot of help from the entire community. Without the community streamers have nobody to show their content to and I feel like we're ignoring a lot of the ways to increase the size of said community. I know yourselves are very busy with your own projects and you're waiting for something big to come along to get everyone interested in, but if we are to take the grass roots approach of Melee seriously then I think we need to look at some of the other things that happened. The big names in the community were putting their names behind smaller community tournaments and helping them grow and I feel like that's one thing that could really be improved on in the community. I'm not really a big name so I don't have the kind of reach, but I try and retweet and tweet every single Broodwar event I can. I may have a small following but every little helps and I was wondering is there any way in which we can get people like you guys involved in this? I feel if we really want the Broodwar scene to grow we need to make the community tournaments bigger. If the community tournaments get bigger then the viewership increases. The more viewers there are the more likely sponsors are to get involved and I personally think that's how we can grow the scene as a collective unit. Of course, I'm somewhat biased as someone who puts in a hell of a lot of hours to try and push STPL as far as I can, but I think it's community support that really helped people in a similar situation in frontier land SC2 like Rifkin. We are super grateful for everything you do already, it would be nice if we could maybe get some additional support from yourselves and Blizzard to really start to try and kick things in an upward trajectory. I'll continue hosting the STPL for as long as humanly possible and I'm trying to push the production value up as high as I possibly can. Rapid casts with me and I always have amazing fun doing it and I'd like do it for 10 viewers if I had to, but I know that we can take tournaments like the community tournaments we already have from the 70-150 average viewers we normally have to 300, 500 and even 1,000. The people are there, I think we just need help from the bigger guys to really help advertise it on twitter and what not imo! Thanks again for the show, it was a great listen and huge thanks for getting Schamtoo and Jaeyun involved! :D | ||
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CobraVe7nom7
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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jedi1982
United States172 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On August 30 2018 11:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I would love to see a representative of TL.net on the show to discuss it after all this bashing, it would only be fair. fairness, i was entertained, thank you  | ||
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
On August 30 2018 11:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I would love to see a representative of TL.net on the show to discuss it after all this bashing, it would only be fair. Who would you suggest? | ||
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Ej_
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Yeah the editor-in-chief's not a bad choice, but Mizenhauer's body of work gets a nomination from me, you feel? | ||
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Melix
United States89 Posts
Having the author of "The Greatest Article in the World" on the Pylon Show to discuss TL.net moderation and as well as casting criticism would make for tense conversation, but would be riveting to listen to. I'm all for it. | ||
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Gorgonoth
United States468 Posts
This would be amazing to see Olli on the show. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
As fun as Olli would be, any of the admins would do. KadaverBB would be nice. I'm not sure if any of them would go on though, as I said it's just something I'd like to see. | ||
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stardog
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On September 01 2018 03:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: As fun as Olli would be, any of the admins would do. KadaverBB would be nice. I'm not sure if any of them would go on though, as I said it's just something I'd like to see. Olli should've really been invited for the Greatest Article discussion in my opinion. Would've made for a less one-sided and more interesting debate. Especially now that Brownbear's article is always used as a shield ("empirical debunking") of Olli's points whenever that comes up, while actually not really doing that (Olli talking about ingame examples, Brownbear purely looking at out-of-game segments, where the problem actually really isn't much of a problem at all). I totally agree that for the last topic about moderation a moderator/admin would be the better person to invite. | ||
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CobraVe7nom7
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CobraVe7nom7
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