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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
November 11 2012 22:57 GMT
#85121
so why did that Psy song take off in such a big way? any theories? I remember watching it when it came out, and I thought it was hilarious and a pretty cool song, but I like K-Pop anyway, so I was a bit surprised when all the sudden everyone in the world was watching it.

idk, I just always kinda thought it would be an SNSD song or something that went viral and got huge, but it ended up being a middle-aged(?), kinda fat dude with a funny voice.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 23:05:31
November 11 2012 23:05 GMT
#85122
PSY is pretty old by korean music/idol standards, but he's actually somewhat young, not yet middle-aged if you consider middle-aged the 40s. He's 34 years old iirc.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
November 11 2012 23:31 GMT
#85123
On November 12 2012 07:50 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 06:14 andyrau wrote:
On November 12 2012 01:42 AsnSensation wrote:
was on a roadtrip this weekend and was browsing this thread with my handy in the car and I remember that someone posted sth about Lee Min Jung and Lee Byung Hyun's relationship, comparing it to the whole "IU" scandal and I was actually curious how the netizens reacted to their relationship and found this, quite a read lol I had no idea

Lee Byung Hyun Oppan Byuntae Style
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.de/2012/09/why-is-lee-min-jung-viewed-as-victim-of.html

netizenbuzz is like akp except they paint everything in a negative picture.
no sources or sources from netizens posts, mediocre accuracy, biased, etc.
The truth is probably somewhere between akp's portrayal of clean/innocent and netizenbuzz's picture of the dirty/tainted.


Also happy and sad at the same time for davichi. ccm has always been a good ballad factory.


you're right, before we set off I just saw some post indicating that there's something more to LMJ+LBH's relationship and netizenbuzz was the first thing that appeared. Realized pretty fast that it's as shit as allkpop. Do you got any info if the "LBY Oppan Byuntae Style" rumours are true? Pretty hard to research as a foreigner since it dates back to the early 2000's. I think the most surprising part for me was Kim Seung Woo standng up for his friend and going against the TW Ceo, even more surprising that he'll return for Iris 2.

another fun read haha
http://kpopsecrets.tumblr.com/post/32274053561/long-secret-post-anonymous


GG that site is made up of sub 18 year old admins who are philipinos/chinese.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#85124
That post was dumb. There's no way to disprove it but there's no proof either, I could type out bullshit like that.
Doulmaigus
Profile Joined October 2012
France352 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 00:08:11
November 12 2012 00:02 GMT
#85125
This is too obvious. That anonymous guy is just shitting on every single SM group, gets frustrated about JYP groups, and says YG groups are okay. Biased hater maybe ?

Please note that I not taking any side here.

EDIT : I just noticed that everyone could submit his own bullshit in this site, so that doesn't add any credibility ... But still fun indeed.
Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 00:16:46
November 12 2012 00:15 GMT
#85126
On November 12 2012 08:31 ProV1 wrote:
GG that site is made up of sub 18 year old admins who are philipinos/chinese.

This is good news, age and race are the main factors in the authenticity of a statement. GG, time to go home, this post has been disproved.

Edit. Of course I believe it all to be false too, but does there need to be a discussion over it? I think it's fairly apparent.
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
November 12 2012 00:24 GMT
#85127
On November 12 2012 09:15 Jarzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 08:31 ProV1 wrote:
GG that site is made up of sub 18 year old admins who are philipinos/chinese.

This is good news, age and race are the main factors in the authenticity of a statement. GG, time to go home, this post has been disproved.

Edit. Of course I believe it all to be false too, but does there need to be a discussion over it? I think it's fairly apparent.


I post things because I find some stuff to be funny. GG srs business on the internet.
Galtakar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden374 Posts
November 12 2012 00:42 GMT
#85128
Hah. That's a fun list. Some of those things fit in with the shit I've heard from a person that works at yg. There's a fuckton of more fun stuff one can bring up.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 09:30:46
November 12 2012 00:48 GMT
#85129
This reply took me a while to type because I had to double check on what I read before. This also probably belongs more in KDD than here, but information drawn here can be applied to celebrities in general. Wall of text after the break!

On November 12 2012 07:50 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 06:14 andyrau wrote:
On November 12 2012 01:42 AsnSensation wrote:
was on a roadtrip this weekend and was browsing this thread with my handy in the car and I remember that someone posted sth about Lee Min Jung and Lee Byung Hyun's relationship, comparing it to the whole "IU" scandal and I was actually curious how the netizens reacted to their relationship and found this, quite a read lol I had no idea

Lee Byung Hyun Oppan Byuntae Style
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.de/2012/09/why-is-lee-min-jung-viewed-as-victim-of.html

netizenbuzz is like akp except they paint everything in a negative picture.
no sources or sources from netizens posts, mediocre accuracy, biased, etc.
The truth is probably somewhere between akp's portrayal of clean/innocent and netizenbuzz's picture of the dirty/tainted.


Also happy and sad at the same time for davichi. ccm has always been a good ballad factory.


you're right, before we set off I just saw some post indicating that there's something more to LMJ+LBH's relationship and netizenbuzz was the first thing that appeared. Realized pretty fast that it's as shit as allkpop. Do you got any info if the "LBY Oppan Byuntae Style" rumours are true? Pretty hard to research as a foreigner since it dates back to the early 2000's. I think the most surprising part for me was Kim Seung Woo standng up for his friend and going against the TW Ceo, even more surprising that he'll return for Iris 2.

another fun read haha
http://kpopsecrets.tumblr.com/post/32274053561/long-secret-post-anonymous

First, that KPS is the old one, there's been another one that's been posted. Both are garbage speculation based off some extrapolation of shit you hear/suspect from the industry. If I find the other one I'll post it here.


Second, that shit with the Canadian lady Kwon Mi Yeon was kind of true.

All the PR maneuvering bullshit aside, it's true that he dated her and it's true that they broke up after LBH moved back to Korea after his filming was done. From there, the stories and people's opinion of the entire thing splits:
A. she's (Kwon Mi Yeon) a moneygrabber
B. LBH is a jerk for paying her off
C. Kang Byung-kyu was the real victim and somehow got roped into all of this off the simple fact he used to date Kwon Mi Yeon
D. LBH was being blackmailed by an unknown group, revealed to be Kang Byung-kyu.

Decide for yourself. Here's an excerpt explaining LBH's side as you already know about the 'frame Kang Byung-kyu story'.
+ Show Spoiler +
A BH Entertainment representative explained, “Lee Byung-heon did have a girlfriend whom he met last autumn and broke up with this spring, but the abovementioned men threatened to create falsehoods about him and the ex-girlfriend while demanding money. However, when Lee Byung-heon refused to comply, they presented the woman as plaintiff in a civil suit.” The threats demanded 2 billion won (approx $1.7 million) and the men are said to be connected to Ms. Kwon, although their exact relationship was not disclosed. The rep explained that as Lee’s side had done nothing wrong, they had requested an investigation into the threats. They will counter through legal channels with their own lawsuit for defamation of character.

from dramabeans


The X-Files
that x-file story is both a gem and a steaming pile of shit.

The file itself was basically an aggregated 113 page report (more a laundry list) of rumors that a powerful advertising agency Cheil Communication (under the Samsung conglomerate) compiled to determine whether the celebs they were paying to endorse a product was deemed 'safe' for PR.
To create this list, they interviewed several paparazzi/tabloid reporters, who revealed some 'insider secrets' (suspicions, really) that had only circumstantial proof. "[they] interviewed 10 reporters, who were given vouchers worth 200,000 Won each for their information - Approx $500 CDA."

Somehow, the report leaked into the public and a lot of celebrities were caught.
In the report, there are several criteria that rank celebrities, including:
'Present Position', 'Future Prospects', 'Talent', 'Self-Management', and perhaps the most condemning section, 'Unconfirmed Rumors'.

Some celebrities that were caught in the crossfire (most of these are filed under the unconfirmed rumors section):
- Han Ga In: innocence is her image, babyface. Analogous to the IU of actresses, although in my opinion, that would be Park Bo Young.
- LBH: claims he liked young women and he enjoyed 'lewd sex positions' + Show Spoiler +
apparently reverse cowgirl is kinky? lel korea
.
He also kept a score for the women he slept with. Song Hye Kyo receieved the lowest score apparently, and was oddly enough his girlfriend at the time. Some people said he also slept with Yoon Eun Hye, but that's a crock of shit made up by some antis.
List of some of the people he slept with (basically all of his co-stars[excellent deduction, tabloid journalists!]): + Show Spoiler +
1. Lee Young Ae
3. Kim Ha Neul
4. Lee Eun Joo
5. Song Hye Kyo
6. Choi Ji woo
7. Shim Eun Ha
etc etc etc
.
- Gong Yoo & Jo In Sung: gay lovers
- Han Ji Hye & Han Ye Seul : intense rivals

Since the report was leaked, over half the celebrities (over 150 of them) have filed lawsuits for slander/defamation against Cheil Communications, and over 50 have refused to work with the agency again. These are all A-list celebs, not your average idols.

Sources: http://orbi.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=xi_agit_pix&wr_id=98916 - this is the original x-file pertaining specifically to LBH.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/23/business/worldbusiness/23iht-laundry24.html?_r=0
http://twitchfilm.com/2005/01/korean-entertaiment-industry-rocked-by-entertainers-x-file.html


So what's the big deal about this?
The fact that these rumors were being passed around in the entertainment industry, and moreover, when a portion (maybe 10%ish? idk, I only read about a certain portion of the list. the percentage is based off people's comments on the subject a while back, so take it with a heap of salt.) of these were proven to be true since the leak happened is certainly worth a consideration, even if the claims were baseless.

The IU, T-ara, Davichi, BJY, KARA, etc incidents should teach you all that image, no matter how illogical, has gargantuan influence on your status.
You should know, being a fan of kpop stars, that image is literally the only commodity a celebrity has in Korea. Nobody makes money off music. Nobody makes money off movies or dramas.
Everybody makes money off endorsements, so advertising companies have a shitload of clout, especially one under the biggest chaebol in Korea.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 12 2012 00:54 GMT
#85130
On November 12 2012 07:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
so why did that Psy song take off in such a big way? any theories? I remember watching it when it came out, and I thought it was hilarious and a pretty cool song, but I like K-Pop anyway, so I was a bit surprised when all the sudden everyone in the world was watching it.

idk, I just always kinda thought it would be an SNSD song or something that went viral and got huge, but it ended up being a middle-aged(?), kinda fat dude with a funny voice.

If that could be actually be answered, it would be trivial to manufacture viral hits. It's not the kind of thing you can come up with a specific reason for.
twitch.tv/cratonz
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 12 2012 00:54 GMT
#85131
double post, but my first post was long enough as it is.

This is the second list of kpop rumors.
http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/10053835.html
+ Show Spoiler +
T-ara
Jiyeon
Is a heavy drinker. Before and after the scandal.

Hyomin
Her family has disowned her for being associated with the dating club. Possibilities of her being falsely accused are very likely, but CCM is taking no action to clear this particular accusation with press release. Among all the members she has suffered the most- loss of income, disregard from management and her family’s condemnation. Her father was initially against her choice of career, but eventually accepted her wishes once he knew that she would continue her education.

Eunjung
CCM was informed by the producers that Eunjung’s participation in the drama Five Fingers was still lying on uncertain grounds till after the press release. CCM DID acknowledge the producers decision, but they back-tracked once the makers made an official announcement about Eunjung’s replacement in press.

Big Bang
G-Dragon is the one who has issues with certain members of Super Junior and these issues date back to the time he was trainee at SM Entertainment. Animosity between him and certain member blew out of proportion in 2009. G-Dragon was not just close to BOA he was also very close to Taeyeon, but the never dated. Many of you assume that might still be a junkie, but from what I have heard he has remained clean since his marijuana controversy. He is not bi-sexual. He is said to be just friends with Kiko Mizuhara till date. He has developed a disgruntled attitude as well as a chip on his shoulders due to limitation he has received as an artist. During his trainee days in SM he had a group of friends which included Gyuri (Kara) and Lee Yeon Hee. Gyuri was also friends with Junsu and Eunhyuk. The rumors about her link-up with Kim Junsu before KARA’s debut was based on this, because his saessang fans were prior witnesses of their late night hang outs. Whether she dated Junsu or not during her trainee days is not known. The rumor about her being in long term relationship with a non-celebrity is not true.

T.O.P
has been very close to Lee Yeon Hee since the time they worked together for Bean Pole CF. I have no other information about these two.

Super Junior (not giving names sorry)
Member A who has been active in SJ and SJ-M has been giving his agency a really tough time. Apparently, he doesn’t want to be a part of SJ- M even though he is one of the popular members. He has even gone around bad-mouthing his SJ-M management and certain members of the group for receiving more opportunities. His bad attitude went a bit too far when a group of foreign hosts (4 men and 1 woman in gag costumes) arrived at SM H.O (Korea) for an interview with the idols. He was extremely unpleasant during the recording and while off-camera he kept cursing at the interviewers in Korean, even calling the woman in the group a transgender. Many of those who have known idol member A for a long time say that he was never difficult and ill-mannered, but changed drastically after he started working more actively abroad. Reason being that he doesn’t like the way his career has unfolded and because he wants more solo projects especially in Korea.


Girl Group 01
Member L from a popular girl group has not been on friendly terms with her management, staff and fellow members (everything is strictly professional). Member L was told to go under the knife when she received a drama offer late last year. She was not keen on receiving the role and more so did not want to go through any plastic surgery procedure. She was also told that she was going to work on a musical project once she finishes filming all her parts. However, when she became adamant about the role and the surgical procedure her agency threatened her pull her off the musical project. So she went along with the agency’s decision. She was miserable with the initial surgical result and to make matters worse Member K who was also a part of the musical project requested the agency to replace L from the project with M, because L was unprofessional and argumentative during rehearsals. The agency also decided that it would be more profitable if they released the project earlier then planned. To top that Member K felt that M was more deserving and the agency agreed. L was told about this change while she was shooting for her show, and as a result she felt she was back-stabbed by everyone involved excluding member M. Collaborative project was an instant surprise hit and L was not happy.

About L and K
K hates working with L. Apparently she didn’t like her even when they were trainees. L and K had major fight last May. Off camera L is known for being closer to her male label mates in comparison to her fellow group members. She is also known for being possessive about her friends and boyfriends. When L found out that a fellow group member N had a crush on her male friend she blew the whole thing out of proportion and causing K to get involved and make peace between the two. It is safe to say the L and N really can’t stand each other of camera and N doesn’t even acknowledge L’s male friend anymore. L also interfered in another member’s relationship which led to more turbulent issues within the group. While L only had one members support the others backed of and 3 members turned against her completely. K and N along with B (K’s confidant)

Hallyu Girl Group
This group has had ups and downs. Lately the center member was not happy with the attention another younger member was getting and during a heated conversation passed a sarcastic comment about the member’s lack of sex appeal in comparison to her own. Well the young member did not take this lightly and snapped back at the older member by saying, “You need to start using anti-aging cream, because day by day you are starting to look like a witch” All hell broke loose between the two and other members of the group including their staff. The older member is now only communicating with one member and not so much with other members.

Food for thought
There is an extremely popular and beautiful idol in the industry that happens to be half Korean and half Vietnamese. Her agency pulled everything possible to keep this information under wrap.

A gorgeous rising actor is known in the industry for being a bi-sexual and he currently dating a stunning female idol. They have even appeared in magazine photo spread together.

ALSO....

There is a 1994 born idol who is dating an idol 13 years her senior. She also received a pay-cut as a punishment from her agency when they found out about this and is currently being monitored by her manager like a hawk.


we pangirl pantasy now?
anyways, these are fun.
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Galtakar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden374 Posts
November 12 2012 01:10 GMT
#85132
That's hilarious.

I feel inspired to post the shit I know. Will try and remember once I Ger home from classes (like 9 homosexuals)
bofranx
Profile Joined April 2011
United States88 Posts
November 12 2012 01:21 GMT
#85133
...lmfao these posts
Limpet
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom163 Posts
November 12 2012 01:21 GMT
#85134
Haha I freaking love reading these rumors, keep em coming I say, or at least until we have some new release to talk about.
dbg
Profile Joined June 2012
Colombia264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 01:28:37
November 12 2012 01:23 GMT
#85135
On November 12 2012 10:21 Limpet wrote:
Haha I freaking love reading these rumors, keep em coming I say, or at least until we have some new release to talk about.


allkpop forums seems like the right fit for you then. go there please.

the funniest thing about these retarded rumors is when some dumb fuck post says shit like MEMBER L OF GROUP S DATED MEMBER G OF GROUP T AND THEY WENT TO THE FRIEND OF GROUP S HOUSE WHO IS IN GROUP Z. smh.
every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 12 2012 01:43 GMT
#85136
On November 12 2012 10:23 dbg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 10:21 Limpet wrote:
Haha I freaking love reading these rumors, keep em coming I say, or at least until we have some new release to talk about.


allkpop forums seems like the right fit for you then. go there please.

the funniest thing about these retarded rumors is when some dumb fuck post says shit like MEMBER L OF GROUP S DATED MEMBER G OF GROUP T AND THEY WENT TO THE FRIEND OF GROUP S HOUSE WHO IS IN GROUP Z. smh.

I won't believe it until I see post-sex selca. OH WAIT.
liftlift > tsm
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 12 2012 01:53 GMT
#85137
Damn andyrau that's ridiculous :O

Crazy stuff, and yeah...it seems to me also that the image is essentially how the stars make money. Unfortunately it's not really about the music or anything like that...all the image created by the company etc :\
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
November 12 2012 01:57 GMT
#85138
I believe none of it. none of the girls in any of the groups ever fight or date or take shits. none of the dudes do drugs (its all a setup I swear!) and they are all the nicest people on earth.

On November 12 2012 10:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 10:23 dbg wrote:
On November 12 2012 10:21 Limpet wrote:
Haha I freaking love reading these rumors, keep em coming I say, or at least until we have some new release to talk about.


allkpop forums seems like the right fit for you then. go there please.

the funniest thing about these retarded rumors is when some dumb fuck post says shit like MEMBER L OF GROUP S DATED MEMBER G OF GROUP T AND THEY WENT TO THE FRIEND OF GROUP S HOUSE WHO IS IN GROUP Z. smh.

I won't believe it until I see post-sex selca. OH WAIT.

omg, I lol'd so hard when I read this. well played, sir. well played.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
ShmeeZZy
Profile Joined January 2012
United States254 Posts
November 12 2012 02:11 GMT
#85139
My Big Bang pics if anyone is interested.

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+ Show Spoiler [more pics] +

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will be updating my tumblr with the rest the next few days


www.twitch.tv/shmeezzy |shmeezzy.tumblr.com|last.fm/user/ShmeeZZy
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
November 12 2012 02:42 GMT
#85140
Hahaha
you guys so cute.

stay like this forever KMD
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