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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
November 10 2012 19:40 GMT
#85021
So J-Min appears to have released a new song.. It's in english/japanese so maybe it should go in the Jpop thread but since she had that good korean song for that drama with Sulli maybe some people are interested. It's pretty good imo.

~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
November 10 2012 20:02 GMT
#85022
LOL @ 10 mins into that ep 2 of crayon pop, everyone has their own gangster skill
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 10 2012 20:10 GMT
#85023
On November 10 2012 19:25 sharky246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 19:13 Roffles wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:11 sharky246 wrote:
imo, i reckon it's just a publicity stunt. If they really were sleeping together, she would have the common sense not to post it on her twitter. Herp derp

How's this type of publicity stunt any good for her career? Yes, I'm gonna go actively try and ruin my image so that netizens can lynch me. Good for my image.

ever since that kara incident, bad publicity stopped being bad publicity. Koreans changed. I mean over 5 years ago, the shit that occurred nowadays would have resulted in much much heavier punishment (not just worded condemnation but in practicality). Despite what netizens say, action speaks louder than words

Not really. Would it have been harsher before? Probably, but not as harsh does not equal good. IU's still getting a lot of shit and the main reasons people usually do bad shit and out themselves is to get attention (Hilton, Kardashian). But IU is/was already at the top of the game, it's not like she'd gain any more recognition from this pic, she's so well known already. There would be literally nothing to gain from revealing that she has underage sex.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 10 2012 20:11 GMT
#85024
On November 11 2012 05:10 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 19:25 sharky246 wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:13 Roffles wrote:
On November 10 2012 19:11 sharky246 wrote:
imo, i reckon it's just a publicity stunt. If they really were sleeping together, she would have the common sense not to post it on her twitter. Herp derp

How's this type of publicity stunt any good for her career? Yes, I'm gonna go actively try and ruin my image so that netizens can lynch me. Good for my image.

ever since that kara incident, bad publicity stopped being bad publicity. Koreans changed. I mean over 5 years ago, the shit that occurred nowadays would have resulted in much much heavier punishment (not just worded condemnation but in practicality). Despite what netizens say, action speaks louder than words

Not really. Would it have been harsher before? Probably, but not as harsh does not equal good. IU's still getting a lot of shit and the main reasons people usually do bad shit and out themselves is to get attention (Hilton, Kardashian). But IU is/was already at the top of the game, it's not like she'd gain any more recognition from this pic, she's so well known already. There would be literally nothing to gain from revealing that she has underage sex.

Underage? She's 19.
It's your boy Guzma!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 10 2012 20:13 GMT
#85025
Underage was the wrong word to use there, I meant having premarital sex at a young age, since apparently that's more taboo in Korea than it is here. At least to reveal it publicly.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 10 2012 20:56 GMT
#85026
I'm not gunna lie, I don't know which is which. Identical twins, too identical.
[image loading]
liftlift > tsm
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 21:00:29
November 10 2012 20:59 GMT
#85027
Left is Way, right is Choa, my call, not sure.

I like this pic ^^
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
November 10 2012 21:27 GMT
#85028
The name tags were a horrible decision. Fine for dance practice vids, not for freaking stage performances, wtf was that... I felt embarrassed for them tbh.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 10 2012 21:29 GMT
#85029
embarrassed as in blushing while rubbing their cheeks maybe

seriously just look at those faces, so wubby
Cadical *
Profile Joined September 2005
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 21:34:00
November 10 2012 21:33 GMT
#85030
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 11 2012 05:56 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm not gunna lie, I don't know which is which. Identical twins, too identical.
[image loading]


Left is Choa, right is Way
IMBA
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
November 10 2012 21:36 GMT
#85031
ughh so degrading.... those outfits and tags are so embarassing
SojoX
Profile Joined September 2012
United States111 Posts
November 10 2012 21:36 GMT
#85032
You guys realize why a lot of people like Kpop is that it is more innocent than American pop right? (This should be beyond obvious to this board) So when your idols start engaging in this behavior that innocence is going to soon disappear and it'll be just as filthy and disgusting as American pop is. This doesn't occur in a vacuum. So you can talk about how this is overblown (which I do agree to in some degree) but it's far better that they don't engage in this behavior (or keep it well out of public eye) because it will cause a decline in the product. Laugh, call it a slippery slope or whatever but one thing does lead to another. History (that is of American pop) is a PERFECT example of this.

Besides, men DON'T like to be with high count women (at least for anything more than a one night stand) and so engaging in sexual behavior at 19 is not wise, period. Whether accident or not, the fact the girl engaged in behavior like this is more indicative of future behavior than you can guess. We can keep going on about how "everyone is doing it" (which isn't true in the least) but it doesn't change the fact that it is a good behavior to indulge in, especially for women because of the ramifications it can have on her future love life.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 21:42:30
November 10 2012 21:41 GMT
#85033
^I don't see what the point of this post is. Even if we start slut-shaming IU with the rest of Korea it's not going to change anything, since no one of significance looks at this board anyway.

Plus your argument is a often-restated one and I don't think anyone here hasn't heard it before.

On November 11 2012 01:31 aloT wrote:
Two groups. Both rookies. Both with very different amounts of success and images...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I don't know if you can say the amounts of success is very different... the only difference to me is that AoA has a larger company behind them so they get into more music shows. I don't think they had a huge amount of success or anything either.
UTL_Unlimited
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)353 Posts
November 10 2012 21:47 GMT
#85034
I'm not sure if this is a re-post or not but I wanted to share my love for J Rabbit <3
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_jR81yIzAk



While I enjoy all of their songs as they seem to be really happy when they sing and their songs are quite upbeat, I personally enjoy the messages that they carry I hope that they do well!

Here's one from YHE (?) 유희열' sketchbook! It was their first performance
+ Show Spoiler +


In regards to the IU thing that SojoX wrote about, I do agree to some extent that it certainly tarnishes the 'image' that the character IU was going for, the overblown response should not be the first knee jerk response that the Korean netizens should have. The idea of death threats and insults over another's personal life boggles my mind in the sense that "yes you certainly can be loyal to the person/image that these celebrities portray, but to have a knee jerk death threat and burn down all of your products is totally fine" should not be tolerated. I personally don't really visit forums other than TL that much (especially DES/FOMOS/NAVER/DAUM/ETC) because it's a cesspool of exaggeration and anger. Youtube has that a lot as well in my opinion.
Also in response to the "men DONT like to be with high count women", it's a matter of opinion. I think that while it's safe to say generally no one wishes to be with a girl with STDs, some men DO prefer women who have had more relationships because it will be a much more experienced relationship. Conservative Koreans live by this, but our current generation does NOT reflect those similar values that was once held. Trust me.
Need to write more things...
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 10 2012 21:52 GMT
#85035
JRabbit has been posted here before but they're a small enough (and good enough) artist that reposting them gets a pass in my book.

IMO burning your own shit is fine, whatever, but death threats aren't ok in any circumstances, particularly for an issue as frivolous as this one. As for the high count women thing, IMO it doesn't really matter. It's more important to get to know each individual girl rather than casting such a blanket statement like "I hate all girls who have had sex with numerous partners". Get to know who you're fucking with first and don't rely on broad assertions to judge them.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 10 2012 21:59 GMT
#85036
it's like a magic show, obviously you know there's no such thing as "magic", but if the magician fucks up the magic trick, and the illusion is broken, the rest of the show is ruined.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 10 2012 22:00 GMT
#85037
Except it's not, it's like the magician telling you he's gay and that letting you ruin the show for yourself because you can't get past something about his personal life that's completely unrelated to the magic.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 22:03:25
November 10 2012 22:01 GMT
#85038
On November 11 2012 07:00 Requizen wrote:
Except it's not, it's like the magician telling you he's gay and that letting you ruin the show for yourself because you can't get past something about his personal life that's completely unrelated to the magic.

innocence is part of the show. it always has been. Especially with idols like IU.

On November 11 2012 07:02 DystopiaX wrote:
Depends. If you liked IU because you liked fantasizing that she could be your innocent virgin waifu then the illusion is ruined. If you liked IU because you thought she looked cute and enjoyed her music then it isn't.


Why do you think the cute image is so promoted? it's to create an illusion of innocence. Otherwise they would've just gone full slut mode with IU, like they did with Hyuna.
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 10 2012 22:02 GMT
#85039
Depends. If you liked IU because you liked fantasizing that she could be your innocent virgin waifu then the illusion is ruined. If you liked IU because you thought she looked cute and enjoyed her music then it isn't.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 10 2012 22:05 GMT
#85040
On November 11 2012 07:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 07:00 Requizen wrote:
Except it's not, it's like the magician telling you he's gay and that letting you ruin the show for yourself because you can't get past something about his personal life that's completely unrelated to the magic.

innocence is part of the show. it always has been. Especially with idols like IU.

Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 07:02 DystopiaX wrote:
Depends. If you liked IU because you liked fantasizing that she could be your innocent virgin waifu then the illusion is ruined. If you liked IU because you thought she looked cute and enjoyed her music then it isn't.


Why do you think the cute image is so promoted? it's to create an illusion of innocence. Otherwise they would've just gone full slut mode with IU, like they did with Hyuna.

Orrrr it could have nothing to do with it. Some idols keep their image stuff separate from their music, it doesn't have to be the same thing both on and off stage.
It's your boy Guzma!
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