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MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
November 03 2012 06:54 GMT
#84241
On November 03 2012 13:58 Pucca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:56 Pulselol wrote:
posting more obsession


One thing I've never understood about K-Pop is why people live sing it? Either they are lipping the song or it sound terrible. However great dancers and not a half bad song!


Congrats to Girl's Day for putting out their first good single since Nothing Lasts Forever. They've come a long way.
Murdco
Profile Joined June 2011
United States745 Posts
November 03 2012 06:56 GMT
#84242
On November 03 2012 15:54 MethodSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 13:58 Pucca wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:56 Pulselol wrote:
posting more obsession

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSyj_9QwqGw

One thing I've never understood about K-Pop is why people live sing it? Either they are lipping the song or it sound terrible. However great dancers and not a half bad song!


Congrats to Girl's Day for putting out their first good single since Nothing Lasts Forever. They've come a long way.

Blue rain 2012 wasn't bad and that game ost thingy, but I get it.
Aiyu
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)36 Posts
November 03 2012 07:00 GMT
#84243
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2012 14:05 Pulselol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 13:58 Pucca wrote:
One thing I've never understood about K-Pop is why people live sing it? Either they are lipping the song or it sound terrible. However great dancers and not a half bad song!


if you're trying to say that minah's vocals are bad then fuck you




Pulselol you made me legitimately laugh ~.~
Pucca you obviously haven't listened to enough live performances to be able to even judge or make such a bs generalization
IU | Terran
Taesica
Profile Joined July 2012
United States173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 07:35:09
November 03 2012 07:29 GMT
#84244
On November 03 2012 13:31 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:07 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:50 Taesica wrote:
after watching flower power like 15 times
its actually not that bad

I actually decided to give it a relisten after your post. Actually don't mind most of the song but its the chorus and the random talking parts that I still don't like. Lol third time and now even those parts aren't that bad...

I don't understand the logic behind this.
"I dislike this song, it doesn't really have any redeemable qualities. sec, instead of taking another listen and dropping it like an ugly baby, lemme loop this for hours on end to see if I like it."

whack as fuck.


it grows on you
and i havent looped it for hours. i've just listened to it every now and then and it has just begun to grow on me
its nowhere as good as All My Love is for You, but it's not as terrible as i first made it out to be

On November 03 2012 13:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:33 AwayFromLife wrote:
Yeah, my little obsession with specific girls lasted a few weeks, maybe a couple months at most, before I realized how it made me look/feel.

I actually wasn't planning on joining this particular discussion but this made me legitimately sad.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's like you were starting to like kpop and feeling the thrill of discovering your bias but then, some friend comes along and makes fun of you. Caught between wanting his or her approval and fear of being outcast, you quickly decided to give up your newly found bias. Now you're torn from being humiliated for having a girl you admired, and the shame of throwing away the feelings for the girl and music that you liked.

I'm not saying that's at all what happened, it's just something I thought. Maybe I'm just in the mood for a sob story ^^

But "before I realized how it made me look/feel." what does that even mean? I can understand that in the eyes of some, it can make you look creepy/weird but I don't get the "feel" part. For me, my bias only makes me feel great. The way she positively influenced my outlook and lifestyle really makes me thankful and I want to work harder and become a better person so that I can, maybe, one day inspire someone else as she did for me. Sure I spend a lot of time in the day keeping up with her recent pictures, performances, and activities, but I'm sure I'd find an equally or even less productive way to spend my free time regardless.

Thanks to her, I started working out routinely, challenging myself to improve my korean, trying not to swear, finding the value is being nicer to people (even those I don't like), eating healthier, dressing better, etc etc. The improvements of pre-Taeyeon to post-Taeyeon Xenocide_Knight are really innumerable. I know it's a little weird to have a "bias" and it's certainly able to be considered obsessive to some.

But I always remember what she said,
“So that they will never be ashamed to call themselves SNSD fans, we must truly work harder.” and I show my thanks by never being ashamed to call myself her fan. And of course, my new life motto
"So that my parents, friends, and all those who associate with me will never be ashamed of me, I must truly work harder."


this post reminds me of this pic
http://i.imgur.com/iXDDU.jpg
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 07:33:25
November 03 2012 07:31 GMT
#84245
+ Show Spoiler +



This was posted on the GSTL thread now as slayers EVE is playing, and it made me smile

And @ andyrau...you would drop an ugly baby?
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 07:37:38
November 03 2012 07:35 GMT
#84246
Making a song grow on you doesn't really say much about the song though. You can say a song is good or bad on your first listen. You can make yourself like or love a song more the more you listen to it but that doesn't make it better than when you first heard it.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 07:40:08
November 03 2012 07:39 GMT
#84247
On November 03 2012 16:35 NicksonReyes wrote:
Making a song grow on you doesn't really say much about the song though. You can say a song is good or bad on your first listen. You can like or love a song more the more you listen to it but that doesn't make it better than when you first heard it.

Actually, some of the best songs get more impressive each listen, as you slowly understand the beautiful complexities that lie within them.

I loved it the first time I listened to it, and still do. I think we should all stop talking about this song though; It's clear that everyone has a very very varied opinion on it, so we should leave it at that
The opinions expressed by our users do not reflect the official position of TeamLiquid.net or its staff.
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
November 03 2012 07:39 GMT
#84248
On November 03 2012 16:29 Taesica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 13:31 andyrau wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:07 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:50 Taesica wrote:
after watching flower power like 15 times
its actually not that bad

I actually decided to give it a relisten after your post. Actually don't mind most of the song but its the chorus and the random talking parts that I still don't like. Lol third time and now even those parts aren't that bad...

I don't understand the logic behind this.
"I dislike this song, it doesn't really have any redeemable qualities. sec, instead of taking another listen and dropping it like an ugly baby, lemme loop this for hours on end to see if I like it."

whack as fuck.


it grows on you
and i havent looped it for hours. i've just listened to it every now and then and it has just begun to grow on me
its nowhere as good as All My Love is for You, but it's not as terrible as i first made it out to be

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 13:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:33 AwayFromLife wrote:
Yeah, my little obsession with specific girls lasted a few weeks, maybe a couple months at most, before I realized how it made me look/feel.

I actually wasn't planning on joining this particular discussion but this made me legitimately sad.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's like you were starting to like kpop and feeling the thrill of discovering your bias but then, some friend comes along and makes fun of you. Caught between wanting his or her approval and fear of being outcast, you quickly decided to give up your newly found bias. Now you're torn from being humiliated for having a girl you admired, and the shame of throwing away the feelings for the girl and music that you liked.

I'm not saying that's at all what happened, it's just something I thought. Maybe I'm just in the mood for a sob story ^^

But "before I realized how it made me look/feel." what does that even mean? I can understand that in the eyes of some, it can make you look creepy/weird but I don't get the "feel" part. For me, my bias only makes me feel great. The way she positively influenced my outlook and lifestyle really makes me thankful and I want to work harder and become a better person so that I can, maybe, one day inspire someone else as she did for me. Sure I spend a lot of time in the day keeping up with her recent pictures, performances, and activities, but I'm sure I'd find an equally or even less productive way to spend my free time regardless.

Thanks to her, I started working out routinely, challenging myself to improve my korean, trying not to swear, finding the value is being nicer to people (even those I don't like), eating healthier, dressing better, etc etc. The improvements of pre-Taeyeon to post-Taeyeon Xenocide_Knight are really innumerable. I know it's a little weird to have a "bias" and it's certainly able to be considered obsessive to some.

But I always remember what she said,
“So that they will never be ashamed to call themselves SNSD fans, we must truly work harder.” and I show my thanks by never being ashamed to call myself her fan. And of course, my new life motto
"So that my parents, friends, and all those who associate with me will never be ashamed of me, I must truly work harder."


this post reminds me of this pic
http://i.imgur.com/iXDDU.jpg

Automatically closed it. Hyoyeons face is the one they leave uncovered? Yeah okay
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 03 2012 07:45 GMT
#84249
On November 03 2012 16:39 Purpl3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 16:29 Taesica wrote:
On November 03 2012 13:31 andyrau wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:07 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:50 Taesica wrote:
after watching flower power like 15 times
its actually not that bad

I actually decided to give it a relisten after your post. Actually don't mind most of the song but its the chorus and the random talking parts that I still don't like. Lol third time and now even those parts aren't that bad...

I don't understand the logic behind this.
"I dislike this song, it doesn't really have any redeemable qualities. sec, instead of taking another listen and dropping it like an ugly baby, lemme loop this for hours on end to see if I like it."

whack as fuck.


it grows on you
and i havent looped it for hours. i've just listened to it every now and then and it has just begun to grow on me
its nowhere as good as All My Love is for You, but it's not as terrible as i first made it out to be

On November 03 2012 13:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:33 AwayFromLife wrote:
Yeah, my little obsession with specific girls lasted a few weeks, maybe a couple months at most, before I realized how it made me look/feel.

I actually wasn't planning on joining this particular discussion but this made me legitimately sad.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's like you were starting to like kpop and feeling the thrill of discovering your bias but then, some friend comes along and makes fun of you. Caught between wanting his or her approval and fear of being outcast, you quickly decided to give up your newly found bias. Now you're torn from being humiliated for having a girl you admired, and the shame of throwing away the feelings for the girl and music that you liked.

I'm not saying that's at all what happened, it's just something I thought. Maybe I'm just in the mood for a sob story ^^

But "before I realized how it made me look/feel." what does that even mean? I can understand that in the eyes of some, it can make you look creepy/weird but I don't get the "feel" part. For me, my bias only makes me feel great. The way she positively influenced my outlook and lifestyle really makes me thankful and I want to work harder and become a better person so that I can, maybe, one day inspire someone else as she did for me. Sure I spend a lot of time in the day keeping up with her recent pictures, performances, and activities, but I'm sure I'd find an equally or even less productive way to spend my free time regardless.

Thanks to her, I started working out routinely, challenging myself to improve my korean, trying not to swear, finding the value is being nicer to people (even those I don't like), eating healthier, dressing better, etc etc. The improvements of pre-Taeyeon to post-Taeyeon Xenocide_Knight are really innumerable. I know it's a little weird to have a "bias" and it's certainly able to be considered obsessive to some.

But I always remember what she said,
“So that they will never be ashamed to call themselves SNSD fans, we must truly work harder.” and I show my thanks by never being ashamed to call myself her fan. And of course, my new life motto
"So that my parents, friends, and all those who associate with me will never be ashamed of me, I must truly work harder."


this post reminds me of this pic
http://i.imgur.com/iXDDU.jpg

Automatically closed it. Hyoyeons face is the one they leave uncovered? Yeah okay

I can taste the upset in you.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
It's your boy Guzma!
Taesica
Profile Joined July 2012
United States173 Posts
November 03 2012 07:45 GMT
#84250
i wanna be that girl
who can be with you forever
so tell me
will you be my boyfriend?
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
November 03 2012 07:48 GMT
#84251
On November 03 2012 16:45 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 16:39 Purpl3 wrote:
On November 03 2012 16:29 Taesica wrote:
On November 03 2012 13:31 andyrau wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:07 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:50 Taesica wrote:
after watching flower power like 15 times
its actually not that bad

I actually decided to give it a relisten after your post. Actually don't mind most of the song but its the chorus and the random talking parts that I still don't like. Lol third time and now even those parts aren't that bad...

I don't understand the logic behind this.
"I dislike this song, it doesn't really have any redeemable qualities. sec, instead of taking another listen and dropping it like an ugly baby, lemme loop this for hours on end to see if I like it."

whack as fuck.


it grows on you
and i havent looped it for hours. i've just listened to it every now and then and it has just begun to grow on me
its nowhere as good as All My Love is for You, but it's not as terrible as i first made it out to be

On November 03 2012 13:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:33 AwayFromLife wrote:
Yeah, my little obsession with specific girls lasted a few weeks, maybe a couple months at most, before I realized how it made me look/feel.

I actually wasn't planning on joining this particular discussion but this made me legitimately sad.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's like you were starting to like kpop and feeling the thrill of discovering your bias but then, some friend comes along and makes fun of you. Caught between wanting his or her approval and fear of being outcast, you quickly decided to give up your newly found bias. Now you're torn from being humiliated for having a girl you admired, and the shame of throwing away the feelings for the girl and music that you liked.

I'm not saying that's at all what happened, it's just something I thought. Maybe I'm just in the mood for a sob story ^^

But "before I realized how it made me look/feel." what does that even mean? I can understand that in the eyes of some, it can make you look creepy/weird but I don't get the "feel" part. For me, my bias only makes me feel great. The way she positively influenced my outlook and lifestyle really makes me thankful and I want to work harder and become a better person so that I can, maybe, one day inspire someone else as she did for me. Sure I spend a lot of time in the day keeping up with her recent pictures, performances, and activities, but I'm sure I'd find an equally or even less productive way to spend my free time regardless.

Thanks to her, I started working out routinely, challenging myself to improve my korean, trying not to swear, finding the value is being nicer to people (even those I don't like), eating healthier, dressing better, etc etc. The improvements of pre-Taeyeon to post-Taeyeon Xenocide_Knight are really innumerable. I know it's a little weird to have a "bias" and it's certainly able to be considered obsessive to some.

But I always remember what she said,
“So that they will never be ashamed to call themselves SNSD fans, we must truly work harder.” and I show my thanks by never being ashamed to call myself her fan. And of course, my new life motto
"So that my parents, friends, and all those who associate with me will never be ashamed of me, I must truly work harder."


this post reminds me of this pic
http://i.imgur.com/iXDDU.jpg

Automatically closed it. Hyoyeons face is the one they leave uncovered? Yeah okay

I can taste the upset in you.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Not even gonna bother opening: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I know what it contains.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 07:52:40
November 03 2012 07:49 GMT
#84252
Actually, some of the best songs get more impressive each listen, as you slowly understand the beautiful complexities that lie within them.

Describing Flower Power with this. What am I reading?
Actually describing most kpop songs with this is hilarious.
It's either catchy, or it's not, that's sort of the whole point of pop songs. If the first 5 listens don't get you hooked, trying to brainwash yourself by blaring it over 9000 times, and forcing yourself to like it is pointless
Sunny, cuz always relevant.
[image loading]
liftlift > tsm
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
November 03 2012 07:56 GMT
#84253
On November 03 2012 16:45 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 16:39 Purpl3 wrote:
On November 03 2012 16:29 Taesica wrote:
On November 03 2012 13:31 andyrau wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:07 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:50 Taesica wrote:
after watching flower power like 15 times
its actually not that bad

I actually decided to give it a relisten after your post. Actually don't mind most of the song but its the chorus and the random talking parts that I still don't like. Lol third time and now even those parts aren't that bad...

I don't understand the logic behind this.
"I dislike this song, it doesn't really have any redeemable qualities. sec, instead of taking another listen and dropping it like an ugly baby, lemme loop this for hours on end to see if I like it."

whack as fuck.


it grows on you
and i havent looped it for hours. i've just listened to it every now and then and it has just begun to grow on me
its nowhere as good as All My Love is for You, but it's not as terrible as i first made it out to be

On November 03 2012 13:42 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:33 AwayFromLife wrote:
Yeah, my little obsession with specific girls lasted a few weeks, maybe a couple months at most, before I realized how it made me look/feel.

I actually wasn't planning on joining this particular discussion but this made me legitimately sad.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's like you were starting to like kpop and feeling the thrill of discovering your bias but then, some friend comes along and makes fun of you. Caught between wanting his or her approval and fear of being outcast, you quickly decided to give up your newly found bias. Now you're torn from being humiliated for having a girl you admired, and the shame of throwing away the feelings for the girl and music that you liked.

I'm not saying that's at all what happened, it's just something I thought. Maybe I'm just in the mood for a sob story ^^

But "before I realized how it made me look/feel." what does that even mean? I can understand that in the eyes of some, it can make you look creepy/weird but I don't get the "feel" part. For me, my bias only makes me feel great. The way she positively influenced my outlook and lifestyle really makes me thankful and I want to work harder and become a better person so that I can, maybe, one day inspire someone else as she did for me. Sure I spend a lot of time in the day keeping up with her recent pictures, performances, and activities, but I'm sure I'd find an equally or even less productive way to spend my free time regardless.

Thanks to her, I started working out routinely, challenging myself to improve my korean, trying not to swear, finding the value is being nicer to people (even those I don't like), eating healthier, dressing better, etc etc. The improvements of pre-Taeyeon to post-Taeyeon Xenocide_Knight are really innumerable. I know it's a little weird to have a "bias" and it's certainly able to be considered obsessive to some.

But I always remember what she said,
“So that they will never be ashamed to call themselves SNSD fans, we must truly work harder.” and I show my thanks by never being ashamed to call myself her fan. And of course, my new life motto
"So that my parents, friends, and all those who associate with me will never be ashamed of me, I must truly work harder."


this post reminds me of this pic
http://i.imgur.com/iXDDU.jpg

Automatically closed it. Hyoyeons face is the one they leave uncovered? Yeah okay

I can taste the upset in you.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


she is actually so pretty Shame she had to be put with 7 other goddesses and a cute one
The opinions expressed by our users do not reflect the official position of TeamLiquid.net or its staff.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
November 03 2012 08:00 GMT
#84254
Yeah, if she was in a duo with Hyuna she'd be an 11/10.

I'm kidding... or am I?
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
November 03 2012 08:03 GMT
#84255
On November 03 2012 17:00 seiferoth10 wrote:
Yeah, if she was in a duo with Hyuna she'd be an 11/10.

I'm kidding... or am I?


You are

[image loading]
The opinions expressed by our users do not reflect the official position of TeamLiquid.net or its staff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 03 2012 08:11 GMT
#84256
On November 03 2012 17:00 seiferoth10 wrote:
Yeah, if she was in a duo with Hyuna she'd be an 11/10.

I'm kidding... or am I?

[image loading]
I seriously hope you're kidding.
liftlift > tsm
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 08:52:00
November 03 2012 08:50 GMT
#84257
Taeyeon knows whats up, reppin the Nillili Mambo.

[image loading]

On November 03 2012 15:41 wei2coolman wrote:
No homo, but I'm sort of excited for Boyfriend's comeback.


There is a good pun here that I'm not going to touch.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 03 2012 09:03 GMT
#84258
On November 03 2012 16:39 firehand101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 16:35 NicksonReyes wrote:
Making a song grow on you doesn't really say much about the song though. You can say a song is good or bad on your first listen. You can like or love a song more the more you listen to it but that doesn't make it better than when you first heard it.

Actually, some of the best songs get more impressive each listen, as you slowly understand the beautiful complexities that lie within them.

hahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahha
champion of kpop

On November 03 2012 16:29 Taesica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 13:31 andyrau wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:07 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:50 Taesica wrote:
after watching flower power like 15 times
its actually not that bad

I actually decided to give it a relisten after your post. Actually don't mind most of the song but its the chorus and the random talking parts that I still don't like. Lol third time and now even those parts aren't that bad...

I don't understand the logic behind this.
"I dislike this song, it doesn't really have any redeemable qualities. sec, instead of taking another listen and dropping it like an ugly baby, lemme loop this for hours on end to see if I like it."

whack as fuck.

it grows on you
and i havent looped it for hours. i've just listened to it every now and then and it has just begun to grow on me
its nowhere as good as All My Love is for You, but it's not as terrible as i first made it out to be

I realize that some artists might not click right away, and this holds especially true for kpop.
For example, Poison was mediocre to me when it came out, but I run across it more until I like it almost as much as Mado double en ay. This isn't the same as a track that's horrible the first go around, then forcing yourself to listen to it multiple times before you get an inkling of attraction to it.

To force yourself to listen to a track multiple times just for the sake of liking a group doesn't show dedication, it's delusional. It's like saying "well this gurr be annoying as hell and ugly as sin but maybe if I spend every day with her, we might form a bond or some lovey dovey shit might blossom!"
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
November 03 2012 09:11 GMT
#84259
On November 03 2012 18:03 andyrau wrote:
To force yourself to listen to a track multiple times just for the sake of liking a group doesn't show dedication, it's delusional. It's like saying "well this gurr be annoying as hell and ugly as sin but maybe if I spend every day with her, we might form a bond or some lovey dovey shit might blossom!"

It's not that horrible. I'd say it's more like dealing with your best friend's new annoying girlfriend out of respect for him. You can't for the life of you imagine what he sees in her but whatever. Over time, she grows on you and you actually become reasonable friends
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Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
November 03 2012 09:14 GMT
#84260
On November 03 2012 12:07 Murdco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:06 wei2coolman wrote:
Can I be 2nd in command of the Raina fleet?

sure



HEY! I was appointed 2nd in command MONTHS ago!


On September 08 2012 01:30 Left4Cookies wrote:

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On September 08 2012 00:54 Vorgrim wrote:


Ofc Cookie, who would turn down a viking as their chief officer on a voyage like this?


Thank you, I am honored.



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