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Why is Girls' Generation's new song another let down? Does SM want to destroy the grains of love I have left for SNSD so badly?
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I thought that was the whole point of the punch? the aegyo's so annoying you want to punch her in the face, it's essentially a taunt.
Sooyoungs aegyo way more annoying imo. Now that really wants me to punch her in the face.
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On November 01 2012 18:18 EffectS wrote:
Why is Girls' Generation's new song another let down? Does SM want to destroy the grains of love I have left for SNSD so badly?
yay more SNSD hate train, I mean we didn't have enough already.
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^SNSD also has the biggest love train, so you gotta deal with both bro
On November 01 2012 18:17 Kuja wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 18:13 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:07 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:06 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:01 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:00 DystopiaX wrote:On November 01 2012 17:55 Shival wrote:
Well, I guess we're talking semantics here then. I take a last comment of "also it's complete trash" as very generalizing, while one could simply write "I think it's complete trash".
I've seen comments saying SNSD is going downhill and then quoting a few of their recents songs while never putting into context the region the song is meant for. I think that's what firehand and I are trying to convey. I think SNSD has gone downhill since Gee, because I don't like any of the songs they've released after it. Are the songs they make beneficial to their popularity? Maybe, but that has no bearing on my opinion, which is why I don't know why Firehand brought this up in the first place. This isn't a discussion about the relative popularity of each group, it's a subjective discussion about music we like. Saying SNSD is going down the shitter isn't a popularity statement, it's a statement regarding personal opinion and should be regarded as such. Wait does this include studio quality covers? @Firehand I remember you, you were a really funny guy for a while. Gave me plenty of good laughs, hopefully this time you can stay around longer. Aha I try to stay off TL due to study and all that, but just had a 3hr exam today and so had to let off some steam....which means watching SC2 vods and commenting on TL for 7 hours Shame, you always bring such insight. Aha, my fav topic was always arguing with Dystopia about how we should view Kpop and how the music alone should not be the reason you enjoy it, but he is too good at arguing T_T On November 01 2012 18:03 wei2coolman wrote:There were still quite a few good SNSD song after Gee. But as of recent they really have gone down the shitters  I think it's a bit ridic to even mention the Japanese market when talking about the song. That's like saying "camry sells well, therefore camry is a good car". It has no barring on the actual topic of the music. And that is completely different. While it appears like a good analogy, you have to understand that the Korean Industry operates a completely different way to a car company... Dysto, in my experience, will just nit-pick your points until you end up on a significantly different topic or significantly smaller in scope then the original argument. That doesn't make him good at arguing.
I too am surprised that someone thinks I'm good at arguing. I just think I'm good at distracting myself and constantly checking TL as well as being way too persistent in arguments.
On November 01 2012 18:18 wei2coolman wrote:
I thought that was the whole point of the punch? the aegyo's so annoying you want to punch her in the face, it's essentially a taunt.
Sooyoungs aegyo way more annoying imo. Now that really wants me to punch her in the face.
The way I read into it was something like that, but in a joking/positive light- or at least people seem to like it.I don't like it, I just want to knock her out so she doesn't do it again.
Unless the CCP thing has always been a subtle insult and i just missed it.
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On November 01 2012 18:19 Kuja wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 18:18 EffectS wrote:
Why is Girls' Generation's new song another let down? Does SM want to destroy the grains of love I have left for SNSD so badly? yay more SNSD hate train, I mean we didn't have enough already.
I'm chuckin wood on the tracks, throwin big ass boulders, putting blockers like they did in unstoppable....
It just keeps...on....rolling
On November 01 2012 18:19 DystopiaX wrote:^SNSD also has the biggest love train, so you gotta deal with both bro Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 18:17 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:13 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:07 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:06 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:01 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:00 DystopiaX wrote:On November 01 2012 17:55 Shival wrote:
Well, I guess we're talking semantics here then. I take a last comment of "also it's complete trash" as very generalizing, while one could simply write "I think it's complete trash".
I've seen comments saying SNSD is going downhill and then quoting a few of their recents songs while never putting into context the region the song is meant for. I think that's what firehand and I are trying to convey. I think SNSD has gone downhill since Gee, because I don't like any of the songs they've released after it. Are the songs they make beneficial to their popularity? Maybe, but that has no bearing on my opinion, which is why I don't know why Firehand brought this up in the first place. This isn't a discussion about the relative popularity of each group, it's a subjective discussion about music we like. Saying SNSD is going down the shitter isn't a popularity statement, it's a statement regarding personal opinion and should be regarded as such. Wait does this include studio quality covers? @Firehand I remember you, you were a really funny guy for a while. Gave me plenty of good laughs, hopefully this time you can stay around longer. Aha I try to stay off TL due to study and all that, but just had a 3hr exam today and so had to let off some steam....which means watching SC2 vods and commenting on TL for 7 hours Shame, you always bring such insight. Aha, my fav topic was always arguing with Dystopia about how we should view Kpop and how the music alone should not be the reason you enjoy it, but he is too good at arguing T_T On November 01 2012 18:03 wei2coolman wrote:There were still quite a few good SNSD song after Gee. But as of recent they really have gone down the shitters I think it's a bit ridic to even mention the Japanese market when talking about the song. That's like saying "camry sells well, therefore camry is a good car". It has no barring on the actual topic of the music. And that is completely different. While it appears like a good analogy, you have to understand that the Korean Industry operates a completely different way to a car company... Dysto, in my experience, will just nit-pick your points until you end up on a significantly different topic or significantly smaller in scope then the original argument. That doesn't make him good at arguing. I too am surprised that someone thinks I'm good at arguing. I just think I'm good at distracting myself and constantly checking TL as well as being way too persistent in arguments. Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 18:18 wei2coolman wrote:
I thought that was the whole point of the punch? the aegyo's so annoying you want to punch her in the face, it's essentially a taunt.
Sooyoungs aegyo way more annoying imo. Now that really wants me to punch her in the face. The way I read into it was something like that, but in a joking/positive light- or at least people seem to like it.I don't like it, I just want to knock her out so she doesn't do it again.
Persistence is one of your strengths 
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On November 01 2012 18:19 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 18:17 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:13 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:07 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:06 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:01 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:00 DystopiaX wrote:On November 01 2012 17:55 Shival wrote:
Well, I guess we're talking semantics here then. I take a last comment of "also it's complete trash" as very generalizing, while one could simply write "I think it's complete trash".
I've seen comments saying SNSD is going downhill and then quoting a few of their recents songs while never putting into context the region the song is meant for. I think that's what firehand and I are trying to convey. I think SNSD has gone downhill since Gee, because I don't like any of the songs they've released after it. Are the songs they make beneficial to their popularity? Maybe, but that has no bearing on my opinion, which is why I don't know why Firehand brought this up in the first place. This isn't a discussion about the relative popularity of each group, it's a subjective discussion about music we like. Saying SNSD is going down the shitter isn't a popularity statement, it's a statement regarding personal opinion and should be regarded as such. Wait does this include studio quality covers? @Firehand I remember you, you were a really funny guy for a while. Gave me plenty of good laughs, hopefully this time you can stay around longer. Aha I try to stay off TL due to study and all that, but just had a 3hr exam today and so had to let off some steam....which means watching SC2 vods and commenting on TL for 7 hours Shame, you always bring such insight. Aha, my fav topic was always arguing with Dystopia about how we should view Kpop and how the music alone should not be the reason you enjoy it, but he is too good at arguing T_T On November 01 2012 18:03 wei2coolman wrote:There were still quite a few good SNSD song after Gee. But as of recent they really have gone down the shitters I think it's a bit ridic to even mention the Japanese market when talking about the song. That's like saying "camry sells well, therefore camry is a good car". It has no barring on the actual topic of the music. And that is completely different. While it appears like a good analogy, you have to understand that the Korean Industry operates a completely different way to a car company... Dysto, in my experience, will just nit-pick your points until you end up on a significantly different topic or significantly smaller in scope then the original argument. That doesn't make him good at arguing. I too am surprised that someone thinks I'm good at arguing. I just think I'm good at distracting myself and constantly checking TL as well as being way too persistent in arguments.
Basically what I just said in, yet in your own words. Beautiful.
On November 01 2012 18:22 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 18:20 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:19 DystopiaX wrote:On November 01 2012 18:17 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:13 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:07 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:06 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:01 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:00 DystopiaX wrote:On November 01 2012 17:55 Shival wrote:
Well, I guess we're talking semantics here then. I take a last comment of "also it's complete trash" as very generalizing, while one could simply write "I think it's complete trash".
I've seen comments saying SNSD is going downhill and then quoting a few of their recents songs while never putting into context the region the song is meant for. I think that's what firehand and I are trying to convey. I think SNSD has gone downhill since Gee, because I don't like any of the songs they've released after it. Are the songs they make beneficial to their popularity? Maybe, but that has no bearing on my opinion, which is why I don't know why Firehand brought this up in the first place. This isn't a discussion about the relative popularity of each group, it's a subjective discussion about music we like. Saying SNSD is going down the shitter isn't a popularity statement, it's a statement regarding personal opinion and should be regarded as such. Wait does this include studio quality covers? @Firehand I remember you, you were a really funny guy for a while. Gave me plenty of good laughs, hopefully this time you can stay around longer. Aha I try to stay off TL due to study and all that, but just had a 3hr exam today and so had to let off some steam....which means watching SC2 vods and commenting on TL for 7 hours Shame, you always bring such insight. Aha, my fav topic was always arguing with Dystopia about how we should view Kpop and how the music alone should not be the reason you enjoy it, but he is too good at arguing T_T On November 01 2012 18:03 wei2coolman wrote:There were still quite a few good SNSD song after Gee. But as of recent they really have gone down the shitters I think it's a bit ridic to even mention the Japanese market when talking about the song. That's like saying "camry sells well, therefore camry is a good car". It has no barring on the actual topic of the music. And that is completely different. While it appears like a good analogy, you have to understand that the Korean Industry operates a completely different way to a car company... Dysto, in my experience, will just nit-pick your points until you end up on a significantly different topic or significantly smaller in scope then the original argument. That doesn't make him good at arguing. I too am surprised that someone thinks I'm good at arguing. I just think I'm good at distracting myself and constantly checking TL as well as being way too persistent in arguments. Basically what I just said in, yet in your own words. Beautiful. But not really? <3 you anyway + Show Spoiler +
You said you were persistent, I stated the ways in which you are persistent, two sides of the same coin imo.
and <3 
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On November 01 2012 18:20 Kuja wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 18:19 DystopiaX wrote:On November 01 2012 18:17 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:13 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:07 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:06 firehand101 wrote:On November 01 2012 18:01 Kuja wrote:On November 01 2012 18:00 DystopiaX wrote:On November 01 2012 17:55 Shival wrote:
Well, I guess we're talking semantics here then. I take a last comment of "also it's complete trash" as very generalizing, while one could simply write "I think it's complete trash".
I've seen comments saying SNSD is going downhill and then quoting a few of their recents songs while never putting into context the region the song is meant for. I think that's what firehand and I are trying to convey. I think SNSD has gone downhill since Gee, because I don't like any of the songs they've released after it. Are the songs they make beneficial to their popularity? Maybe, but that has no bearing on my opinion, which is why I don't know why Firehand brought this up in the first place. This isn't a discussion about the relative popularity of each group, it's a subjective discussion about music we like. Saying SNSD is going down the shitter isn't a popularity statement, it's a statement regarding personal opinion and should be regarded as such. Wait does this include studio quality covers? @Firehand I remember you, you were a really funny guy for a while. Gave me plenty of good laughs, hopefully this time you can stay around longer. Aha I try to stay off TL due to study and all that, but just had a 3hr exam today and so had to let off some steam....which means watching SC2 vods and commenting on TL for 7 hours Shame, you always bring such insight. Aha, my fav topic was always arguing with Dystopia about how we should view Kpop and how the music alone should not be the reason you enjoy it, but he is too good at arguing T_T On November 01 2012 18:03 wei2coolman wrote:There were still quite a few good SNSD song after Gee. But as of recent they really have gone down the shitters I think it's a bit ridic to even mention the Japanese market when talking about the song. That's like saying "camry sells well, therefore camry is a good car". It has no barring on the actual topic of the music. And that is completely different. While it appears like a good analogy, you have to understand that the Korean Industry operates a completely different way to a car company... Dysto, in my experience, will just nit-pick your points until you end up on a significantly different topic or significantly smaller in scope then the original argument. That doesn't make him good at arguing. I too am surprised that someone thinks I'm good at arguing. I just think I'm good at distracting myself and constantly checking TL as well as being way too persistent in arguments. Basically what I just said in, yet in your own words. Beautiful.
But not really?
<3 you anyway
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My two cents is usually that dysto has a very good point with which I usually agree in the first place. You also are quite clear in what you say, which is a good skill to have amid your stereotypical sea of fans/frankly inarticulate dolts
.... but I'm really curious as to whom iu is dating :<
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On November 01 2012 17:37 firehand101 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 17:32 DystopiaX wrote:
Whether Japan likes something or not has no bearing on whether individual users like things. oRly? Some of these comments are the harshest I've read for a while. All I'm saying is they are promoting in Japan, and marketing Japanese-influenced songs. So when people are calling it the worst song ever and complete trash, at least keep that in perspective...
so we talk about the quality of the song 'for once', + Show Spoiler + which is a totally unfounded opinion. discounting the oneliner posts accompanied by a mindless photo dump of some idol, there's been a hefty amount of discussion about the music itself.
that's like a swede declaring the rest of the world has no taste because they hate surströmming. get off your high horse.
also, you all need to stop turning this thread into a fucking irc channel.
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On November 01 2012 18:27 Aerisky wrote:
My two cents is usually that dysto has a very good point with which I usually agree in the first place. You also are quite clear in what you say, which is a good skill to have amid your stereotypical sea of fans/frankly inarticulate dolts
.... but I'm really curious as to whom iu is dating :<
please just don't even start. I'm 99% sure that was bullshit.
And hey Aer :D
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So naturally, I get all excited and shit for the new SNSD song.
It's not trash. I've heard worse. Musically, I just don't get it. Maybe I will give it another listen or two.
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A man after (some) of KMD's heart:
Im so much fan for this group! Crayon pop - Dancing Queen Baby 빠라밥빠빱 dancing in the moonlight~ 꼭 한번 직접 보고 싶다!!
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On November 01 2012 18:29 nohbrows wrote:
So naturally, I get all excited and shit for the new SNSD song.
It's not trash. I've heard worse. Musically, I just don't get it. Maybe I will give it another listen or two.
It's funny because this was my first thought process when I first listened to a kpop song.
he probably stumbled on this thread and tweeted that in an attempted to increase his fanbase
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On November 01 2012 18:32 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2012 18:29 nohbrows wrote:
So naturally, I get all excited and shit for the new SNSD song.
It's not trash. I've heard worse. Musically, I just don't get it. Maybe I will give it another listen or two. It's funny because this was my first thought process when I first listened to a kpop song. he probably stumbled on this thread and tweeted that in an attempted to increase his fanbase
Eh, but usually, Kpop songs tend to make sense in some form or the other. I can listen to a kpop song and typically be "Oh yeah, this is catchy. I get it."
I listened to it once more, and the disconnect happened when it switched into the chorus. I felt like I was listening to a completely different song. Which made me do a musical double take.
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Yeah I just posted a one-liner because that popped into my head while reading your post. Not a comment on the song/kpop as a whole or whatever. ofc we all know that my throught process went to "THIS SHIT IS LIKE CRACK" after that
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Pretty much my face after watching Maxstep MV, and then got wombo combo'd with Flower Power.
Sunny's short blonde hair has been growing on me, then they decide to fuck that up in Flower Power. RAGE!
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On November 01 2012 19:04 El2iz3ab1et6h wrote:
Hi,guys.I am new
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